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New Generation of Conservatives on the Rise

Kanzler said:
Apparently, then, there will be a struggle between the alt-right and the libertarian-minded for the future of the conservative movement in America.
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There already is a struggle. Many libertarians vehemently opposed the Alt-Right and the Alt-Right labels many libertarians as cultural leftists, libertines, etc. There is, however, a group of libertarians called paleolibertarians that have sided with the Alt-Right. And with Gary Johnson being the LP nominee, more and more libertarians are going paleo, but at the same time, there have been a lot of leftist "invaders" into the LP.

In my personal opinion, the libertarians are going to kill themselves off unless they join the Alt-Right. Its been noted by many different people that the libertarians have terrible ideas for achieving libertarianism and many of their policies are self-destructive in the long run. Murray Rothbard, one of the founding fathers of libertarians, has written extensively on this topic- criticizing libertarians for their lackluster and terrible Hayekian Model of achieving libertarianism.

Outside of the LP, if more and more liberal politicians win office, libertarianism is just going to die out completely. Mostly because of voting patterns of immigrants with the open border policies of liberal politicians. If the LP doesnt kill itself, it will die out unless they join the Alt-Right. If the LP dies out, i believe the Alt-Right is going to be the future of right-wing politics with the religious and conservative right falling out of popularity.
 
BadSheep said:
There is a ton of anime hating in the Alt-Right community- probably because of the pedophilia, incest, and ecchi scenes, plot lines, and characters. The Alt-Right is also extremely anti-pornography which probably explains it. I dont think they realize anime and manga has more than just those genres. I am unaware of the whale hunting stuff.
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How peculiar, I thought the Alt-Right community were made up of millennials our age who grew up with anime. You would think they'd be more tolerable on it as well as not finding porn a problem, unlike older conservatives, who you mostly likely think are anti-porn along with anything they didn't grew up with.
 
Kanzler said:
On what basis are the alt-right anti-pornography, if not from a religious or feminist perspective?
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Its degenerate. Thats what they call it. Im sure there are some that are probably into pornography, but from what I have seen, they are pretty anti-pornography. In addition to it being degenerate, they believe it is unproductive and the time spent, well you know, you could be productive and contributing to society.

Also on anime. There are probably some that watch anime, but I have seen the community be really hateful towards it. Its just right-wingers in general that just dislike anime in general. I only know 3 right-wingers other than myself that watch anime. The rest hate it or dont care.

I guess that could be another reason. Anime is usually watched by left-wingers, so anything left-wingers like collectively is usually opposed by the Alt-Right because they absolutely despise leftism.
 
BadSheep said:
Also on anime. There are probably some that watch anime, but I have seen the community be really hateful towards it. Its just right-wingers in general that just dislike anime in general. I only know 3 right-wingers other than myself that watch anime. The rest hate it or dont care.

I guess that could be another reason. Anime is usually watched by left-wingers, so anything left-wingers like collectively is usually opposed by the Alt-Right because they absolutely despise leftism.
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Which is ironic because you would think left-wingers would be the ones who hate anime for degenerating women and minorities and supporting pedophilia and incest.
 
Pinkie-Dawn said:
Which is ironic because you would think left-wingers would be the ones who hate anime for degenerating women and minorities and supporting pedophilia and incest.
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The UN tried banning hentai, but the great majority of anime watchers are left-wingers. I dont have a stat, but through experience I am pretty certain.

And i have seen like radical egalitarians/crazy feminists (obviously left-wing) that support "voluntary" pedophilia and incest.

*Obviously a minority, but this does include the moral and cultural relativism most of the left follow.
 
BadSheep said:
The UN tried banning hentai, but the great majority of anime watchers are left-wingers. I dont have a stat, but through experience I am pretty certain.

And i have seen like radical egalitarians/crazy feminists (obviously left-wing) that support "voluntary" pedophilia and incest.

*Obviously a minority, but this does include the moral and cultural relativism most of the left follow.
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Really? >>

Where do people make this up from?
 
BadSheep said:
https://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=17028&LangID=E

"Among the possible issues for discussion between CEDAW and a delegation from the Japanese Government are: Banning the sale of video games or cartoons involving sexual violence against women"

...and it was discussed, but never passed because the Japanese government defended it.
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Okay, so first of all, the UN didn't try to ban anything, and second of all, what they discussed was the depiction of sexual violence against women, not hentai. Or maybe it is because all hentai is sexual violence against women.
 
well having just read the thread, and much of the points that both sides have brought up, I think calling it the 'alt-right' is probably just a sweet sugar coated way of saying neo-fascism.
 
Controversial? said:
well having just read the thread, and much of the points that both sides have brought up, I think calling it the 'alt-right' is probably just a sweet sugar coated way of saying neo-fascism.
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Fascism: "an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization."

Alt-Right: Anti-Authoritian- either pro-democracy or pro-monarchy (majority is former). Fascism is under a dictator most of the time. In addition, the Alt-Right's nationalism manifests in love of culture, not love in government and imperialism. Extreme interventionism is also inherent in fascist ideology, and the Alt-Right are generally non-interventionist or mixed- very few are actual interventionists, much less imperialistic or pro-war.

The Alt-Right is fairly diverse, but the people within the Alt-Right do not hate each other or each other's ideologies. They are unified under the Alt-Right. On the other hand, fascists absolutely despise libertarianism. And libertarian thought to various extents is evident throughout the Alt-Right.

The Alt-Right is not neo-fascist by any measure. You will see jokes about Augusto Pinochet often, but they aren't serious, nor do many of them even consider Augusto Pinochet an actual fascist. In real life, i do believe Pinochet was a Neo-Fascist.

Part of the Alt-Right, while being nationalistic and anti-democracy, still could not be considered as Neo-fascists. For example, while i may not be Alt-Right (I arguably am, but I also dislike being associated with them sometimes), I am nationalistic and I dislike democracy a ton, but there is no way in hell I could ever be considered a neofascist. Neofascism tries to destroy freedom of thought and expression, is authoritarian, and advocates for violence both domestically and foreign through interventionism. These are all things I vehemently oppose, as well as the Alt-Right.
 
I think, and forgive me for trying to put words in your mouth, the neo-fascist comment was more about how "classic" fascists from the 20th century were known to scapegoat and incite violence against political opponents and minorities, and how they were interested in "pure" national identities, rather than the style of government organization they preferred.
 
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