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I have some choice words after reading this, but they're not appropriate for this forum.

Seriously, I love you Nintendo...why the hell do you keep doing this to me? Friend codes suck, and it seems like you're doing your best to alienate the "hardcore" gamers who want a decent online service.
 
...You beat me. I was going to post that but everything got slow on me. So, I'll post this.

What do you we have the Wii system code for then? I'm confused. I'm assuming that if I've given you a Mii or added you to my contact list, chances are I'm going to want to play games with you too. Can't use the same code because...? O_o
 
I'll just C/P what I said on GameSpot.

"I've sort of thought this is how it was going to be for sometime now. So I've already got past the strange of blowing up when hearing about this stuff. It's going to be friend codes just like the DS, sure I'm not happy about it. But at least I don't run off and say things like "I'm not going to buy a Wii because of this.". I'm going to play online games one way or another. Friend codes for each game or a single friend code for each Wii, in the end I will be playing online."

Sure it is a pain to add a new FC for each and every online game. And it is stupid of Nintendo to do something like this (like Triffy said, what's the point of the main list?). But I've already accepted the fact that we are going to use FCs. I'm used to it by now, all I want now is just to play online.
 
Ah, GameSpot. I registered there because I wanted to put my game collections up like you and Mork, but I can't figure anything out. XD I see headings that should logically be links, but they aren't. O_o
 
Yes but the whole point of humans pushing forward is for easier living. I honestly don't mind but it would be easier for those of us who would like to sneak in a few minutes of (insert wifi wii title here) before we go off to school. I think it's good that Nintendo is helping those poor sick kids, plus they figured it would strike them gold in mothers hearts. Which of these headsets do you like better? Official Nintendo made one ( comes only in white for now) Comes out the day after d/p and makes everything clearer. Or This one by Turtle beach. It is slightly bigger, and about $5 more but it has the other part of the headset. And Samurai X don't be afraid of the PSP2, sony has no chance. We are triumphant, and we very well may be for a long time to come.
 
There's a significant difference between WFC and XBL, even beyond the convenience of punching in Friend Codes.
XBL was designed with the idea of always being connected, even when you aren't playing online. You can check your friends list—which is universal, of course—and find out what all of your friends are doing at any given moment. Be that playing an online game, playing an offline game, or watching a DVD. You can invite anyone who's online to come join you for a game, even if they're not playing the same game. (They'll change discs to accept the invite, of course) You can also check your friends' progress in their games. That's mostly trivial, but one more unique advantage to the XBL approach. One other cool feature is the notion of one-on-one chat—you can chat with a friend one-on-one, no matter which games either of you are playing. This means that you could both play offline games while still chatting. Or different online games. Or whatever.

Even beyond the concept of friends, XBL has advantages. With Friend Codes, you have to specifically add anyone you wish to play with. That works fine for your existing friends, just with more work, as David said. The advantage XBL has is matchmaking. Say that, In Super Smash Brothers: Brawl, you just wanted to spend an evening playing online. With the Wii, you'd have to go on MSN and hunt down specific friends to play a match with. They may not be online, or may only want to play a few matches. But with matchmaking, you can play against random groups of people for as long as you'd like. While I'm looking forward to playing with everyone in Brawl, I'd love to be able to practice with random people when no one else is online. You can make new friends that way, too.

Ultimately, WFC is pretty disappointing from a multiplayer perspective. It's functional, but just barely. XBL is so much more robust and convenient. Now don't get me wrong—I don't like Microsoft or the 360 by a long shot. In fact, one of the disadvantages of online gaming is that it attracts an adult group, so you have to be willing to tolerate a lot to play. The only reason I'm willing to draw comparison is that I want WFC to be better. I think we all hoped that the online competition from last generation would motivate Nintendo to make a great online service. Now I guess we have to hope that the Wii's successor can implement better online, while still protecting that family-friendly image. I'd imagine that's really hard to do.
 
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Yea it's like trying to skin a cat without taking off any hairs. What's XBL? I've never heard of that game. Also for those of you who think i am a Microsoft fan, think again. I'd much rather eat my own puke. I hate them mainly for IE, but that's off topic. I have something interesting...wait let me see if i can pull it out. Ok here it, wait no. THEY are: Control your comp with your ds Some cool looking proof AND Third party motion sensory for the ds. Now you can touch, AND play. Has video proof of that concept. As i've said before the ds can do a lot, but i'm ok with FC. But for wii, i hate it because...it's a wii!
 
XBL is an acronym for the Xbox and Xbox 360 online service, Xbox Live. I should have made that distinction. Could have sworn I typed it out at least once. xD;
 
Hey do you guys think that someone will eventually be able to hack wifi? And if so will ndo be able to patch it quick enough? The ds has a lot of home made stuff coming out, will there soon be bad people taking advantage of it's versatility? I don't want to do any more scaring, but it's just scary.
 
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Not all WFC games are friend code based though. Mario Kart and Metroid allow for random battles. Those players then end up on your rival list. You just can't choose to play them freely. @@

Wii has parental controls. Nintendo should base the amount of security for the WFC based on that.

It's sad and is going to have to be one of the things Nintendo learns from. Hopefully, next generation - which is a long ways away.
 
If any of you are disappointed about the way Nintendo has gave us online, don't worry. They can extend the online capabilities whenever they want. Twilight Princess for the Gamecube is a prime example. They extended this console's power, and they have no reason not to do the exact same thing for the Wii. I mean, let's just say Brawl has a different mode of combat available for online play, and you can make and view a profile. Don't expect this, but Nintendo can do just that.
 
You guys are so not full time gamers.... Is no one here going Wii60/PSWii or even PSWii60 like myself? Losers. *runs* XD


My dealings with the Wii onlineness isn't the FCs. I've gotten past that stage. But it's the way the online works. As Abby said, for me to battle some friends on SSBB I got go get on MSN, IM a bunch of friends, ask if they're doing something, then ask to play SSBB and so on. XBL you can see what the person is doing right now. If the Wii was like XBL I could pop on, see Abby, Robo, and David on and see what they're doing. Send them a message (only if the darn thing wouldn't take an hour to get there) asking if they wanted to battle and set up a match. And if online battles work like MKDS (it's my only Wi-Fi game so I don't know how others will work) then it's also going to suck. Search for random friends, sometimes they drop off and when you want to battle all 3 you only battle 2 and so on. I would like it where I say "Ok, I'm the one that started this match so I'm the leader, I pick Abby, Robo, and David for this battle. Dawson, and Triffy will have to sit this one out.". That would be great and fix the whole randomness of friend coded battles.
Nintendo should have taken a page out of the MS handbook on online gaming. But noooo, they had to go their own way that likely will end up bad (I'm not going to say it's bad to a point where I won't play online. I'm saying it won't be user friendly like XBL is).
 
Why am I being left out? Afraid of getting your butt kicked? XD Abby doesn't have Wifi, she can't play. What gives? T__T;

I'm hoping the SSBB will feature a random feature in addition to friend codes, just like Mario Kart DS or Metroid. The main issue I see is, as you said, having to go to MSN or something like that in order to get your friend to come online.

Maybe we could just send a message via the Wii? Oh, but then the Wii won't glow until you turn it off. @@ I hope Nintendo offers a firmware update for that by then.
 
You guys are so not full time gamers.... Is no one here going Wii60/PSWii or even PSWii60 like myself? Losers. *runs* XD


I am, I have had all three consoles for a whole week and I've had the 360 and Wii since the Wii came out.

I agree though, XBL is very user friendly, they hit the nail in the head with their service. Sony and Nintendo can only hope to match their service, it looks like Nintendo won't match it though.

Anyways, this thing is just going around in circles.
 
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On topic: How does firmware work? When i wikid it i only got info on stuff like firm ware for the psp. Is it an actual update to your systems code? If it is then the wifi problem might be fixed, unless wifi is deeply integrated within the system...And i can't believe you guys are actually saying that you like Microsoft. Shame. Just a shame.
 
Why am I being left out? Afraid of getting your butt kicked? XD Abby doesn't have Wifi, she can't play. What gives? T__T;

I'm hoping the SSBB will feature a random feature in addition to friend codes, just like Mario Kart DS or Metroid. The main issue I see is, as you said, having to go to MSN or something like that in order to get your friend to come online.

Maybe we could just send a message via the Wii? Oh, but then the Wii won't glow until you turn it off. @@ I hope Nintendo offers a firmware update for that by then.

It's probably because you would be too shy to play. D: Besides, you guys seriously don't want to play SSB against me. I'm far from the best, but I'm pretty confident I could lay you down. xD;

I really hope Brawl has a random feature too. I want to be able to sit down on a Friday night and play all night long against other people. One other thing from XBL I'd like to have is the notion of parties. You can have groups of people—say you and me—going from random game to random game. That way we'd always be playing together, but with other people as well.

But again. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying I like MS. I'm just saying they have something awesome with XBL. In fact, the 360 is the only place where they're really enjoying success based on the merits of their product.

Firmware can expand the capabilities of a device, yes, but it has limits. It wouldn't be able to change the system they're using for WFC.
 
Oh, right. Was he referring to your post? xD; That'd certainly be fixable, I'm sure. There's no in-game way to access the messages, though.
 
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