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My birthday is in June too. And I'd like a pink case mod, please ♥

Didn't Sony give up on the UMD movies? I'm pretty sure that they announced their plans to offer downloadable movies instead. o.o; So I doubt a PSP2 would be reliant on the UMD, at least in the media sense.
 
What do you guys make of the external hard drive rumour? Apparently Square asked for it?
 
I haven't heard of it. oo; Where's it coming from, and what's the basis of the rumor? That they'll be a hard drive for caching? Or for online games?
 
I dunno the basis for the rumour other than supposedly the third parties have been pressuring Nintendo for one. Reasons unknown. It's been in a few Nintendo news sites. So...

How much space would online games need that the Wii's current space isn't enough?
 
I personally think that Nintendo should do a massive recall on all wii's. The small size is awesome, but i would rather have a bigger wii, than have bad graphics. I know it's not all about graphics, and it's always about gameplay, but i just think that it would be better if they had the same graphics,as the other guys. I know games like Pokemon won't need ps3 graphics. (Although i would love it) But they at least should try, and spread out into other areas. As for games, i won't be getting any soon. 1) Because i'm saving. and 2)All the stores around me don't have the ones i want, and i don't want to go to gamestop because they have outrageous taxes if your not a member. >.<
 
...do I really even want to reply to this?

First off, the reason the Wii doesn't have PS3 graphics isn't because of the size. It's because of the cost. Nintendo wanted the Wii to be inexpensive and no more than $250. If they added in PS3 or 360-level graphics, you'd probably pay $400-500 for the system, plus whatever the motion sensing technology costs. For $250, the Wii is a good buy.

Next, someone who buys a Wii knows the graphics aren't going to be HD/PS3/360 level. If they want HD graphics, then they can get a 360 or PS3. If you buy a Wii expecting that level of graphics, you're just an uneducated moron. Nintendo's not going to do a "massive recall" just because some idiots don't realize the graphics aren't as good as the other two consoles.

Third, Gamestop doesn't charge outrageous taxes if you're not a member. You don't even have to be a member to do anything there. All being a member does is get you more trade-in credit and a magazine. I don't know what gives you the idea that they charge more for normal customers.

Finally, if you're "not getting any games soon", then stop griping and whining. It sounds to me like you're just trying to nitpick and make baseless claims when you don't even know what you're talking about. Get your facts straight before posting in here next time.

EDIT: Looks like you haven't even joined the NFC. You're supposed to join these groups before posting in these threads.
 
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Morkula said:
...do I really even want to reply to this?

First off, the reason the Wii doesn't have PS3 graphics isn't because of the size. It's because of the cost. Nintendo wanted the Wii to be inexpensive and no more than $250. If they added in PS3 or 360-level graphics, you'd probably pay $400-500 for the system, plus whatever the motion sensing technology costs. For $250, the Wii is a good buy.

Next, someone who buys a Wii knows the graphics aren't going to be HD/PS3/360 level. If they want HD graphics, then they can get a 360 or PS3. If you buy a Wii expecting that level of graphics, you're just an uneducated moron. Nintendo's not going to do a "massive recall" just because some idiots don't realize the graphics aren't as good as the other two consoles.

Third, Gamestop doesn't charge outrageous taxes if you're not a member. You don't even have to be a member to do anything there. All being a member does is get you more trade-in credit and a magazine. I don't know what gives you the idea that they charge more for normal customers.

Finally, if you're "not getting any games soon", then stop griping and whining. It sounds to me like you're just trying to nitpick and make baseless claims when you don't even know what you're talking about. Get your facts straight before posting in here next time.
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*High fives.* Pwned.


Well sweetie, there's going to be more Wiis coming in two weeks, so yay! =3 *Stands in line...again.*

Where did ya heard of the hard drive rumor?
 
The creator of Final Fantasy doesn't see a problem with the Wii's graphics. FINAL FANTASY. Essentially, Eye Candy: The Video Game. He figures that unless you're using an HD hookup, there isn't a noticeable difference between the Wii and 360.
 
TRIFORCE89 said:
The creator of Final Fantasy doesn't see a problem with the Wii's graphics. FINAL FANTASY. Essentially, Eye Candy: The Video Game. He figures that unless you're using an HD hookup, there isn't a noticeable difference between the Wii and 360.
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I wouldn't go that far, but it's true that without an HD set, you're wasting most of the graphics capabilities of the 360 and the PS3. I really hope that gesture means that the Japanese RPG developers will flock to Nintendo. I'd adore that, and have been worried about where they're going to go due to the PS3 being so expensive and expensive to develop for.
 
TRIFORCE89 said:
The creator of Final Fantasy doesn't see a problem with the Wii's graphics. FINAL FANTASY. Essentially, Eye Candy: The Video Game. He figures that unless you're using an HD hookup, there isn't a noticeable difference between the Wii and 360.
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I don't really think Final Fantasy has awesome graphics...great CG though. Also, I have a Wii and a 360 without an HD set and I think there's a big difference. However, I want to say something else. Even though the graphics are notably different even on a non HD set I think what most people mean is that you won't care about the difference when you're actually playing. Back in November I would switch from GoW to Twilight Princess and the graphical difference was huge and definitely noticeable but when you actually start playing and getting into the game you just don't care and it just doesn't matter, in either game.

Absolitude said:
I personally think that Nintendo should do a massive recall on all wii's. The small size is awesome, but i would rather have a bigger wii, than have bad graphics. I know it's not all about graphics, and it's always about gameplay, but i just think that it would be better if they had the same graphics,as the other guys. I know games like Pokemon won't need ps3 graphics. (Although i would love it) But they at least should try, and spread out into other areas. As for games, i won't be getting any soon. 1) Because i'm saving. and 2)All the stores around me don't have the ones i want, and i don't want to go to gamestop because they have outrageous taxes if your not a member. >.<
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You were pretty scared about a PSP2 and then you post this, it seems like you're more of a casual Sony/Microsoft type of fan, not even a hardcore one. You have your opinion and I agree that having a Wii with some better graphics would be awesome but having a massive recall is out of the question. Even though it would have been nicer I love the Wii how it is now and there's just no need to change it at all. Just go get a 360 and you'll be set, it will work out best for you.
 
Abby said:
I wouldn't go that far, but it's true that without an HD set, you're wasting most of the graphics capabilities of the 360 and the PS3. I really hope that gesture means that the Japanese RPG developers will flock to Nintendo. I'd adore that, and have been worried about where they're going to go due to the PS3 being so expensive and expensive to develop for.
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I would hope that they would flock to the Wii, but I doubt it. They appear to be liking the 360 despite it's Japanese sales. They prefer the hardware and internet capabilities. Square has hinted that Kingdom Hearts may not be on the PS3. Can you imagine if it went to the 360? Everything's topsy turvy.

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Just to clear up what Hironobu Sakaguchi said:

Ah, Kutaragi-san's architecture…seven DSPs and a low-powered CPU. I don't like the PS3's architecture.

[in Japanese] First off, with Sony, programmers want to do well and want to create good software, but Kutaragi-san makes the final call and [designs] the [hardware and software] environment himself. So that's been really challenging.

And with the Wii, the system is not that powerful, and it's not HD. But the fact is that there are not a lot of homes that have HD TVs. So I feel, for example, at my place, the screen I have is not in HD. So when I play the games, both for the Wii and 360, it's hard to tell the difference. But with the Wii, it's relatively cheaper to make. It's less costly. So that's one of the attractive things about the Wii.
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And some other interesting things:

GS: What do you think about what Square Enix has been doing with the Final Fantasy series since you've left? Because we're seeing more games go multiplatform these days, if it ever came to pass that the Final Fantasy series came to the Xbox 360, how would you feel about competing against it with your own games?

HS: [in English] Like Dragon Quest going to the DS.

GS: Right.

HS: I feel that the Final Fantasy series should come to Xbox 360 as well. This is wise. It makes so much sense to me...it has so much potential in North America and in Europe. So there's a great chance for the series to succeed on 360 as well.

I know he left Square, but still... Final Fantasy is his baby. He might be a reflection of Japanese RPG developers. Who knows.

Or it could just be a Microsoft bias thing. XD
 
TRIFORCE89 said:
How much space would online games need that the Wii's current space isn't enough?
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DS games are online. So I don't see why an external HDD is needed.
But I wouldn't mind one seeing how I've wanted one since... well ages. XD

Absolitude said:
I personally think that Nintendo should do a massive recall on all wii's. The small size is awesome, but i would rather have a bigger wii, than have bad graphics. I know it's not all about graphics, and it's always about gameplay, but i just think that it would be better if they had the same graphics,as the other guys. I know games like Pokemon won't need ps3 graphics. (Although i would love it) But they at least should try, and spread out into other areas. As for games, i won't be getting any soon. 1) Because i'm saving. and 2)All the stores around me don't have the ones i want, and i don't want to go to gamestop because they have outrageous taxes if your not a member. >.<
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Since others have made some good replies to that. I'll make this short.
Here a few FMV screens from Final Fantasy XII, it's a PS2 game.

https://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a247/Arcanine_PC/459841_20060508_screen002.jpg
https://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a247/Arcanine_PC/459841_20050516_screen001.jpg
https://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a247/Arcanine_PC/459841_20060508_screen001.jpg

Pretty right? Well guess what, the Wii can pull off stuff better then that. See, the PS2's hardware is inferior to that of the GC's (discounting the DVD drive). The hardware of the GC is better then the PS2. And since the Wii is double (or so) the GC, that would give me the idea that the Wii can pull off some pretty graphics.

Jeremy said:
Well sweetie, there's going to be more Wiis coming in two weeks, so yay! =3 *Stands in line...again.*
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You still haven't got a Wii? O_o
Well I hope you get one soon Jeremy.

TRIFORCE89 said:
The creator of Final Fantasy doesn't see a problem with the Wii's graphics. FINAL FANTASY. Essentially, Eye Candy: The Video Game. He figures that unless you're using an HD hookup, there isn't a noticeable difference between the Wii and 360.
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Well, being a Wii60 owner I got to sort of disagree. IMO the best looking Wii game out there right now is TP. But if you stand that up to something like GRAW/2 you will see a difference. I mean sure the 360 isn't the "OMG THAt like SOOOO Blew me aWay!!!!!" like. But as it stands now, there really isn't a Wii game that can stand up to the 360's graphics. On a normal TV and if someone makes a super high end Wii game then it might can come close (Who knows what the Wii's graphics chip holds. But for right now, we can only wonder).

TRIFORCE89 said:
I would hope that they would flock to the Wii, but I doubt it. They appear to be liking the 360 despite it's Japanese sales. They prefer the hardware and internet capabilities. Square has hinted that Kingdom Hearts may not be on the PS3. Can you imagine if it went to the 360? Everything's topsy turvy.
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Nah, it won't happen. If KH goes anywhere other then Sony it'll be on the Wii. Most 360 fans would go "Screw that, who would want to play that game?" where many Wii fans are more open minded about the games or like the games. So it would be best for KH to move to the Wii.
 
360 fans are usually more into shooters and crap and would see KH as "kiddy". I think KH actually would be best on a Nintendo console, since it has that "everyone" appeal rather than a "mature" appeal, and it really doesn't require "OMGHD" graphics.

And as far as the graphics go, personally I've yet to see a Wii game look as good as even some PS2 games (FFXII and GoW2 specifically). And I'm not talking about FMVs in XII, the in-game graphics put pretty much everything on the Wii to shame, besides Twilight Princess and Sonic. And I think a lot of it is lazy developers. Apparently a lot of people feel Sonic is the best-looking Wii game and it looks better than most Xbox games though, so maybe that's a step in the right direction.
 
I think there's too much Japanese pride getting in the way of the transition to the 360. While it's encouraging to hear what he said, there's always been a strong since of honor amongst Japanese companies that would be betrayed by developing for an American-made console. That sounds ridiculous, but it's a reality in Japan.

KH isn't exactly "everyone" appeal. It certainly can appeal to everyone through its Disney roots, but a lot of its success is owed to the anime group which owns a PS2 solely for RPGs. Need proof? Ask any female fan of KH. XD; It's part of what makes the PS2 such a choice platform for RPGs. I do agree that the 360 is much more for the stereotypical adult male, though. It wouldn't fit well with the 360 even if it could be on it.
 
I don't want it on the 360. I'm just saying.

I'd love for it to be on the Wii (and special Wii versions of KH I and II final mixes, please Sqaure?)

I know the PS2 has the fanbase. Look at FF's popularity in Japan vs Zelda. FF wins without question. I would hope that fanbase switches to the Wii though, as well as the developers. It could happen. Developers just aren't liking the PS3; too costly and lots of wasted disc space if you don't make full sue of the capabilities (which would leave them virtually bankrupt XD). Square has said KH may leave Sony. It could go multi-platform, or to the Wii. Who knows.

To advance on what Abby said though with the whole pride thing. That could be why Square's keeping FF on the PS3. They left Nintendo. They may be head over heels in supporting their handhelds, but it would just be shameful if they went back over. Showing that they messed up in the long run.
 
That's something that I find to be a mystery—what is the cost of the Blu-ray discs, and how are the games not much more expensive as a result? Does it come from Sony? From the publisher? And just how much does it cost to make the discs en masse?
 
Japan does have this pride thing going on with the 360 (as well as the XBox). It's one of the big 3 and it isn't from Japan. But at the same time, I think MS sort of rubbed them wrong. The market over there is more different then it is over here. I know Japan is the gaming big guy in the world. But I do think NA is more open to gaming then that of Japan. We at least will give the Wii or PS3 a chance even if it's from Japan. And many of us do think the consoles from Japan are better.
To me, it's mostly Japan with their big head.
 
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