Now that the uk has decided to leave the EU do you think other countries will follow suit?

[Mareep123]

Ey up,

Now that the UK is in the process to leave the EU and le pen is gaining momentum in France do you think that other countries will leave the EU? If yes, which country next....if I had to guess I would say holland.

 

[moon]

I hope most other countries see the benefits of an European Union and won't let temporary mistakes or malcontentedness lead to seemingly misinformed and hasty decisions like in the UK. Sweden is far from exiting, I'm pretty sure, even though we didn't join the Euro currency movement. I'm not very knowledgeable about the situation in other parts of Europe though.

 

[Somewhere_]

It depends on how long the populist movement lasts. And how bad people perceive the migrant crisis to be.

 

[Thepowaofhax]

Honestly, I think Poland has a very huge chance of leaving the EU due to its election of a Nationalist president.

 

[Mareep123]

I think there is an increase in the popularity of far right politics across Europe...so I can see it happening. I never anticipated brexit and Trump....but here we are!

 

[Thepowaofhax]

I think there is an increase in the popularity of far right politics across Europe...so I can see it happening. I never anticipated brexit and Trump....but here we are!

I'd rather there the dissolution of the EU than it to stand. It started as an economic coalition, however no foreign court in my eyes should be able to dictate how local legislation in another country should work. Also, the far-Right has arisen because of the radical left's obsession with identity politics.

 

[Ivysaur]

As an European federalist, I wish the answer will be "none"- Le Pen has a pretty low ceiling and it's not a matter of winning a few more votes in Pennsylvania- her polling numbers for the second round are horrible and she's trailing Macron by 30 (!) points. And considering how she didn't win any regional elections in 2015 despite finishing in first place in many of them in the first round, it's not just a mere hypothesis or a wishful "it cannot happen". It's obvious that the vast majority of the voters would rather have literally anyone before a Le Pen, and Jean-Marie knows it well (see 2002). And the most likely winner right now, Emmanuelle Macron, is a pro-European, soo... Oh, and btw, polls in France show that only 25% of the population has a positive opinion of Trump- a number that's eerily similar to Le Pen's support. Again, the more outrageous nonsense Trump does, the more toxic their connection will become.

What I do see likely is that the EU might end up splitting into "two roads", like with the Euro: a more "federalist" group of the "core" countries that actually want more deeper integration and less "national identity politics", and an "outer Europe" of more reluctant countries. But without the EU, Europe is a politically irrelevant, economically fragmented bunch of rump states with no future other than conquest by Russia or the Chinese or our own destruction through more of the wars our nationalist Governments started every few decades for centuries and centuries and centuries.

Of course, I'm talking from Spain, a country where our far right hasn't yet managed to get 1% of the vote despite being the 10th country in the world with more immigrants, and where ample majorities are pro-European. I guess we had too much of far-right fascist nationalists to want to try that ever again. Probably Germany knows that too.

 

[Mewtwolover]

I'd rather there the dissolution of the EU than it to stand. It started as an economic coalition, however no foreign court in my eyes should be able to dictate how local legislation in another country should work.

So much this, I hope that at least Greece and Finland will follow suit and leave the sinking ship named EU.

 

[Kostas]

I hear many things lately about Greece exiting EU. Tbh, I hope we will do this soon. Actually, I don't think that has to do with far right. I know many people who don't support a right or far right party and still believe that it's better to leave the EU. We're in a crisis for more than 7 years and the situation is getting worse and worse, EU is saying that they're helping us while the only thing they're doing is to cut our salary. My father got fired and he was working 12 hours a day for just 600 euros a month.

I don't think that EU is helping us at all, I think that the best solution is to leave.

PS. I know that EU is not the only one resposible for this because there's the Greek government too, which is doing a great job ruining our lifes too!

 

[Ivysaur]

I hear many things lately about Greece exiting EU. Tbh, I hope we will do this soon. Actually, I don't think that has to do with far right. I know many people who don't support a right or far right party and still believe that it's better to leave the EU. We're in a crisis for more than 7 years and the situation is getting worse and worse, EU is saying that they're helping us while the only thing they're doing is to cut our salary. My father got fired and he was working 12 hours a day for just 600 euros a month.

I don't think that EU is helping us at all, I think that the best solution is to leave.

PS. I know that EU is not the only one resposible for this because there's the Greek government too, which is doing a great job ruining our lifes too!

Admittedly, Greece wouldn't be in this mess if the Neo Demokratia Government in 1999 hadn't hired Goldman Sachs to falsify the economic data and hide a massive deficit in order to join the euro, because it simply didn't follow the rules, and then kept increasing the black hole under the carpet until the next PASOK Government came out clean and unleashed hell. It's absurdly hard to fix those problems once you can't devalue your currency, so... there is a good argument about leaving the euro. Leaving the EU itself, though, would be pretty damning though.

On the other hand, there could be another solution: a truly federal EU with a decent-sized budget, US style -at least 30% of the EU's GDP, and not the current 1%- that truly redistributed funds between states. But that's probably just my federal dream.