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Light and Darkness Dragon

Light and Darkness Dragon

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    In Gold and Silver when DARK and STEEL type was discovered and since many pokemon have had their types reassigned. It started with Magnemite, and Magneton were pure ELECTRIC types. It took over 3 years for scientist to agree that the Magnetic pokemon were also part STEEL. In X and Y new type was discovered, FAIRY and a number of pokemon that were once believed to be NORMAL are now being reclassified to part or full FAIRY.
    I'm looking forward to discussing what pokemon are mistyped with other professors, trainers, breeders, theorist, and whatever else you may classify yourself as.

    I this thread I would like to discover each mis-typed pokemon and discover its real typing.
    Voltorb and Electrode have the possibility to be Electric/Ghost while its dex entries state nothing of the balls being possessed it's possible that Electrodes and Voltorbs are haunted pokeballs of lost/fainted or even 'corrupted' Pokemon. The spirit of the pokemon that once inhabited still lives in the malfunctioned pokeball. (That's just a theory.)
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    I wonder what pokemon you think are miss-typed, or that could be retyped; Also, what do you think of my Voltorb theory? (Personally I think it's a 4/10.)

    Thursday Feb. 6. 2016 My head cannon for each pokemons type. 90% complete. Needs Mega's, and Form changes.
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    When I first saw the design of Goomy, Sliggoo and Goodra I thought for sure they'd be Dragon/Water or Dragon/Poison but just plain Dragon is a little bland for me.

    And seeing as Inkay and Malamar are based on squid, I thought they would be part Water type. I get the Psychic element of them, with the ability to produce hypnotic light, but I don't really see what's Dark about them. Except maybe that squid typically live deep in the ocean where light doesn't penetrate. But so do whales, and Wailord is just Water type. I don't know. Nitpicking, I guess. :)
     
    I've been doing extensive reading on mis-type pokemon since I created this list.
    I read that Malamar were land squid. Malamar looks like a dark type to me. It doesn't learn any water moves only rain dance, and the way it goes about hunting with its deception is defiantly very dark, or as JP calls it. evil.

    The Goomy line I've read things about people believing it to be poisonous. I can see how people would get that impression. The way it drips everywhere, and its ability gooey. I know some animals can look poisonous or harmful, but they were made that way to survive in their environment. Goodra looking poisoness stopped some trainers from toxicing it, allowing it to live another day. I have no real objections to Goodra being Poison/Dragon to give more diversity to the Posion/Dragon combo.
     
    Light and Darkness Dragon said:
    In Gold and Silver when DARK and STEEL type was introduced into the world of pokemon it was discovered that Magnemite, and Magneton were actually ELECTRIC/STEEL rather than pure ELECTRIC.
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    I mean, if they were just introduced then, it could hardly then be 'discovered' that such was the case. Talking like that in the context of a discussion is strange.

    In X and Y another new type was discovered, FAIRY. A slew of pokemon believed to be NORMAL were actually FAIRY all along, and a few pokemon had the FAIRY typing tagged onto it.
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    This was problematic for multiple reasons (other than they had no properties of the type previously, you'd then have to posit that the games from R/B to around R/S, etc., didn't exist, and such Pokémon came into existence with the invention of the Fairy-type, when in reality that was just Serena), including that they took a lot of Pokémon with their own histories and side-stories and turned them into a new gimmick which was completely different to promote a new, gimmicky type. The rationale of this type was, of course, to balance certain issues deriving from the dragon-type in previous games, but this was essentially a continuation of certain issues with FR/LG, etc., involving writing these Pokémon out of those games. The Fairy-type is a slightly tentative type though, given that people wouldn't want to insert it into too many gyms or areas of 'other' types, so it's probably good that they got the re-makes of 'important' games over with first.

    When I first saw the design of Goomy, Sliggoo and Goodra I thought for sure they'd be Dragon/Water or Dragon/Poison but just plain Dragon is a little bland for me.
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    To be fair, their straightforward 'Dragon' typing does seem to complement their image as a fairly 'plain' Pokémon. How much effort or elaboration are they really hoping for when it comes to the typing of Goomy?
     
    I just want Dark types to be present in the original Gen 1 set, since both Steel and Fairy types got represented. My suggestion would be Raticate and the Ekans line. the Electabuzz line could've gotten Fighting as a secondary type and the Magmar line could've gotten Ground as a secondary type, so they wouldn't feel outclassed by other pure Electric types and Fire types. Gyarados is kinda iffy, would you replace his Flying typing for Dragon, to fit its aesthetics, or Dark, since it gains a Dark typing in its Mega Evolution and the need for more Dark types within the original 151. Would it make more sense if both Ninetales and Marrowak gained Ghost as a secondary type due to their dex entries and aesthetics, or is Ninetales better off with having a Psychic typing instead?
     
    illumine said:
    I mean, if they were just introduced then, it could hardly then be 'discovered' that such was the case. Talking like that in the context of a discussion is strange.
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    Should I change how the OP is written?

    illumine said:
    This was problematic for multiple reasons (other than they had no properties of the type previously, you'd then have to posit that the games from R/B to around R/S, etc., didn't exist, and such Pokémon came into existence with the invention of the Fairy-type, when in reality that was just Serena), including that they took a lot of Pokémon with their own histories and side-stories and turned them into a new gimmick which was completely different to promote a new, gimmicky type. The rationale of this type was, of course, to balance certain issues deriving from the dragon-type in previous games, but this was essentially a continuation of certain issues with FR/LG, etc., involving writing these Pokémon out of those games. The Fairy-type is a slightly tentative type though, given that people wouldn't want to insert it into too many gyms or areas of 'other' types, so it's probably good that they got the re-makes of 'important' games over with first.
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    What issues with FR/LG?

    illumine said:
    To be fair, their straightforward 'Dragon' typing does seem to complement their image as a fairly 'plain' Pokémon. How much effort or elaboration are they really hoping for when it comes to the typing of Goomy?
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    Considering how gloomy looks I could really see it being retyped to Normal, because it's hard to classify. I can't really see it being Dragon, Poison, or Water. Perhaps a Dragon/Normal typing to make up the possible Poison/Water type it could be?
    There also isn't a Dragon/Normal type in the game. I can't tell if Goodra is a Wall or Tank. Getting the Normal typing would give it an extra weakness and an immunity. Would that be beneficial or hurtful?

    Another pokemon that even Pokemon forgets it type is Dunsparce. Is it Bug or Ground? It's the Land Snake It's a snake so it can't be bug, but that Land, ground type confirmed?

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    Dunsparce may be a combination of dun (grayish yellow or gloomy) and sparse (referring to its rarity).
    Nokocchi is an anagram of つちのこ Tsuchinoko, a fabled snake-like creature.
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    Dunsparce is based on the mythical Tsuchinoko, a serpentine cryptid of Japan. Similar to Bigfoot or the Chupacabra, sightings and reports appear in Japanese media; however, hard evidence is always lacking. Tsuchinoko are 30 cm to 80 cm long, with a large head and poisonous fangs. Its body is thicker than its head and tail. The noises it makes resemble squeaks, chirps and snores. Unlike real snakes, which slither from side to side, a Tsuchinoko wiggles ahead in a straight line. The Tsuchinoko curls its body to leap through the air. Moreover, the fact that Dunsparce, a snake-like creature, has wings also brings to mind the motif of the Feathered Serpent, a prominent deity or supernatural being in many Mesoamerican religions. In addition, Dunsparce shares some traits with bumblebees, including their stripes, tiny wings, stinger-like tail, and the fact that they burrow into the ground. This may be a visual pun inspired by the name "bachi hebi" (literally "bee snake"), which the Tsuchinoko is also known by.
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    A few years ago some speculated that Dunsparce would be part fairy type. I cannot envision that. Pure Normal or Ground-type could be good for Dunspare and sprinkle more bug moves into its arsenal, Play Rough, Fang moves.

    Dunsparce should just have an evolution like Magikarp and Feebas. and have it Ground/TYPE?
     
    Pinkie-Dawn said:
    I just want Dark types to be present in the original Gen 1 set, since both Steel and Fairy types got represented. My suggestion would be Raticate and the Ekans line. the Electabuzz line could've gotten Fighting as a secondary type and the Magmar line could've gotten Ground as a secondary type, so they wouldn't feel outclassed by other pure Electric types and Fire types. Gyarados is kinda iffy, would you replace his Flying typing for Dragon, to fit its aesthetics, or Dark, since it gains a Dark typing in its Mega Evolution and the need for more Dark types within the original 151. Would it make more sense if both Ninetales and Marrowak gained Ghost as a secondary type due to their dex entries and aesthetics, or is Ninetales better off with having a Psychic typing instead?
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    I just noticed your post. (I read many threads at once and when I hit post sometimes newer post I haven't read pop up.)

    I think the Ekans line should've gotten the dark treatment. I certainly agree with you there.

    As for Marowak I have an interesting concept for him: Fighting type if holding bone club, or ghost type if holding a skull item?
    Marowak is an excellent fighter, but if the bone it's wearing is cursed?
    Ninetails is defiantly a Fire/Ghost since its roots are in fox spirits.

    Gyrados could be part dark, but Dragon has been the fan pick since gen 1.
    Gen 1 has a Dark evolution Umbreon, but no dark natives.

    I'm interested in hearing more of your thoughts. ^____^
     
    Pinkie-Dawn said:
    I just want Dark types to be present in the original Gen 1 set, since both Steel and Fairy types got represented. My suggestion would be Raticate and the Ekans line. the Electabuzz line could've gotten Fighting as a secondary type and the Magmar line could've gotten Ground as a secondary type, so they wouldn't feel outclassed by other pure Electric types and Fire types. Gyarados is kinda iffy, would you replace his Flying typing for Dragon, to fit its aesthetics, or Dark, since it gains a Dark typing in its Mega Evolution and the need for more Dark types within the original 151. Would it make more sense if both Ninetales and Marowak gained Ghost as a secondary type due to their dex entries and aesthetics, or is Ninetales better off with having a Psychic typing instead?
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    I disagree with Magmar. I think it should be Fire/Water, Fire/Fighting, or Fire/Psychic instead. I agree with the others you said, though.
     
    I think I can live is a world where Magmar could be Fire/Water.

    Gen 1 loved its water/psychic types.
    Reading about Magmar now. Magmar should have a Lava Absorb ability where fire atks heal him/her.

    From reading its pokedex entries and the bulbapedia page nothing indicates it would be water besides its lava. I used to think it was part poison since of smog and its other poison atk.
    It's also the only Fire/Poison candidate I can think of.
    Fire or Fire/Poison
     
    There's a lack of Fire/Water bar Volcanion. In Gen 7 no new water types besides the starter.

    I think Magmar could be Fire/Poison but Magmortor I'll need to do more research
     
    I thought Yanmega should be the Bug/Dragon type. Instead Flygon may be better off paired with the Dragon/Bug type especially since Vibrava looks like a bug. I do not see ground-type anywhere in that pokemon, and have trapinch become ground-bug.

    Most Bug/Flying types do not make much use of their secondary typing. My thought process: Stripe it, change it to add diversity or give them more moves to use the flying type.
    For the other Bug/Flying
    Scyther, Vespiquen, Mothim, Vivillon, Ninjask, Yanmega: No Change
    Ledyba, Ledian: Bug (Ledian Potential Bug/Fighting)
    Masquerain: Bug/Water
    Butterfree: Bug/Psychic
    Beautifly: Bug/Fairy

    I would really like to hear some thoughts on this.
     
    I don't see why Celebi isn't a Grass/Fairy type. Celebi time travels, sure but Dialga controls time. I have always thought that Celebi was a little more Purity based. I mean, the Fairy type was confirmed to represent Spirtiual Light AND Magic. It does look like a Fairy too
     
    Master of Memes said:
    I don't see why Celebi isn't a Grass/Fairy type. Celebi time travels, sure but Dialga controls time. I have always thought that Celebi was a little more Purity based. I mean, the Fairy type was confirmed to represent Spirtiual Light AND Magic. It does look like a Fairy too
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    I was doing research on this and in 2009 someone said Celebi looked like a Pixie.
    I wish I could make every Mew clone diverse.
    I had a hard time thinking of an ALT type for Azelf, Uxie, and Mespit (using the Triforce as a base. Power. Wisdom. Courage).
    Wisdom in pokemon is typically Psychic. Courage can be represented by Fire. Power could be Dark or Fighting.
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    56% Design, 30% Lore, 6% Diversity 4% Competitive Scene
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    The lake guardians, or lake trio, is a term used to describe the Legendary trio residing in the three lakes of Sinnoh: Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf. They are meant to represent knowledge, emotion, and willpower, respectively. They are based on the Imperial Regalia of Japan: the Yata no Kagami (wisdom), Yasakani no Magatama (benevolence), and Kusanagi (valor). Parts of their names come from fantasy creatures: pixies, sprites and elves, respectively. The other parts of their names come from pronouns: you (Uxie), me (Mesprit), and us (Azelf).
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    Updates!
    I've been reading through the documentation of Neo X/Y. Little bit of a long list. A lot of good choices, and a few that make me loose my mind.
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    Blastoise should be part steel due to its cannon. If not regular defiantly Mega Blastoise
    Charizard: I'm okay with him being Fire/Flying. Charizard looks like a dragon.

    Butterfree, Type: Bug / Psychic: I agree
    Arbok = Poison. I'm okay with this, and give Poison/Dark to Servipor?

    Vulpix & Ninetales: Type: Fire / Dark. Fire/Dark on Ninetails doesn't make any sense in PMD it was embed with Psychic Powers. Also its Pokedex entries imply it would be Part Psychic. If anything Ninetails should be Fire/Psychic if not Fire/Ghost. In my head cannon if Ninetails mega evolved its Mega should be Fire/Ghost, and its shiny form looks a little ghostly. It could even be Fairy, but I don't like tossing the Fairy-type on every poke.

    Bellossom Type: Grass / Fairy: Sure, I thought about it before

    Paras: Bug, #047 Parasect, Type: Bug / Ghost I love this idea. Parasect is basically dead, and the fungus on its back is the pokemon not the bug underneath. 11/10

    Venonat & Venomoth, Type: Bug / Psychic No. Its name is ven(om) (mo)th. It's a poisonous moth (even if it learns 1 more psychic type than poison via level up)

    Ponyta & Rapidash, Type: Fire / Fairy This is an acceptable Fairy/Fire. In the days when forums were speculating fairy typing, and megas We were considering this to be a Mega Pegasus. We couldn't decide Fire/Flying or Fire/Fairy and Fire Fairy seems a legit for this majestic unicorn

    #199 Slowking, Type: Water / Fairy Yep.

    #083 Farfetch'd Type: Flying / Ground It cannot participate in Sky Battles so sure? It losses its Normal Stab but would gain a EQ. With Leafblade it can fend off water types, and gains an immunity to electric. I like this better than Fighting/Flying for him.

    #115 Kangaskhan Type: Fighting No Opinion. Will do more research later

    #099 Krabby & Kingler, Type: Water / Fighting I can't give this guy any more weakness' If 4 horses can be fighting type. I'm on board now after thnking about it. STAB fighting, and crab hammer scarf could be really cool.

    Electivire, Electabuzz & Elekid, Type: Electric / Psychic
    Magby, Magmar, Magmortor, Type: Fire / Psychic
    I reserve my thoughts on this but I believe it was sub-type PSychic to be included to the Jynx Trio

    #127 Pinsir, Type: Bug / Ground I prefer this to the Bug/Fighting many request for Pinsir. Pinsir learns more fighting moves than bug which is why I understand many would want it to be Bug/Fighting. It looks more like Bug/Ground

    #137 Porygon, 2, Z Type: Normal / Psychic I can see this :)

    #149 Dragonite Type: Dragon / Fairy NNOOOO!! I prefer pure dragon for Dragonite. It may loose hurricane STAB but not may people utilize its Flying-type.

    #151 Mew, Type: Psychic / Fairy She's pure psychic

    #154 Meganium Line, Type: Grass / Fairy If this is done Feraligatr should be Water/Dragon or Dark, and then Typholosion would be Pure fire? These pokes should gain thier secondary type via mega evolution.

    #200 Misdreavus / Mismagius, Type: Ghost / Fairy I have an opinion for this. Introduced in gen II. Its first form could've been pure Ghost. Its second form is a witch. thus Psychic? But in Gen II they worked to neuter the Psychic type.

    #210 Granbull No changes. Im really feeling Fairy/Fighting

    #222 Corsola, Type: Rock / Fairy
    #234 Stantler, Type: Ground / Fairy
    Both of those are interesting, and I love it.
    #251 Celebi No changes. Add Fairy to mew, but not this :/

    I will discuss the rest of these later.
     
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