Potentially Starters "Leaked"?!

[Z25]

Guys....

These are fake 100%

Timmy turner on 4chan recruited artists to make these to fool people. Didn't think people would fall for how obvious it was that it was trying to copy wottergate, which was what they called the unova starters leaks. He even showed the emails and original concepts for this. Timmy does this all the time on 4chan.

Pretty much the only one he hasn't made is the only one that seems like it's real, which is

Grass Owl, Fire Rabbit or Cat, and Water seal thing.

Which leaked on 2ch 2 months beforehand and match the trademarks. So if anything is real it's those. And as the days go by, I'm leaning more towards them being indeed real.

 

[Hikamaru]

Pretty much the only one he hasn't made is the only one that seems like it's real, which is

Grass Owl, Fire Rabbit or Cat, and Water seal thing.

Which leaked on 2ch 2 months beforehand and match the trademarks. So if anything is real it's those. And as the days go by, I'm leaning more towards them being indeed real.

If those specific ones are believed to be real, I probably won't end up choosing the Water starter if it looks terrible. I also recall some owl-like "Fakemon" I saw was kinda too sinister-looking in its art to be a starter, even if it appears we'll finally be getting a bird Grass starter.

Looks like at this rate the only one I'll like is the Fire-type...

 

[Z25]

If those specific ones are believed to be real, I probably won't end up choosing the Water starter if it looks terrible. I also recall some owl-like "Fakemon" I saw was kinda too sinister-looking in its art to be a starter, even if it appears we'll finally be getting a bird Grass starter.

Looks like at this rate the only one I'll like is the Fire-type...

That's ironic as most seem to hate the fire starter. From the most recent mockup of what it could look like, it could be an adorable fire cat. Which could become an epic rock and fire cat.

the grass owl I like, and the water one could be good, but I'm positive he was early concept, hence why it wasn't colored. Same for the fire, but that had some coloring. My guess is they will look more visually appealing if real. I don't know who'd I choose though..... either grass or fire...

 

[Hikamaru]

Zoro, can you show us which of the art you believe is real? Also, I think the only Fire-type starter that really seems to be hated is Tepig, with Chimchar and Fennekin being a mixed bag, and the first three being the most praised.

 

[The Evil Mewtwo]

I think those YouTube Videos are wrong.

 

[Hikamaru]

So it appears these two seem to be the likely suspects at the moment.

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

I think many speculate the first pic to be "legit" due to the presence of the logos, but I really don't like the design of the Water-type starter for that one. Seriously, if that first pic is the real designs then it'll be the first time I outright dislike the Water-type starter's design, although I'd definitely pick Fire, or maybe even Grass since I never used Grass in a main playthrough yet.

To me however, the second pic is what I think should be the legit one, even if a DeviantArt user claimed he drew it, it's the white borders on the pics (like the Unova starter evolutions when they were first leaked) that make me suspect it. I would definitely pick Water there, since the design reminds me of Oshawott. I feel like all three seem adorable, and the Fire starter fits into the Chinese Zodiac, being a tiger. The Fire starter in the other pic doesn't look as relevant to the theme.

Even if the real designs are completely different from these two, it'll mainly come down to after I get used to them on which type I'd pick.

 

[janejane6178]

So it appears these two seem to be the likely suspects at the moment.

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

I think many speculate the first pic to be "legit" due to the presence of the logos, but I really don't like the design of the Water-type starter for that one. Seriously, if that first pic is the real designs then it'll be the first time I outright dislike the Water-type starter's design, although I'd definitely pick Fire, or maybe even Grass since I never used Grass in a main playthrough yet.

To me however, the second pic is what I think should be the legit one, even if a DeviantArt user claimed he drew it, it's the white borders on the pics (like the Unova starter evolutions when they were first leaked) that make me suspect it. I would definitely pick Water there, since the design reminds me of Oshawott. I feel like all three seem adorable, and the Fire starter fits into the Chinese Zodiac, being a tiger. The Fire starter in the other pic doesn't look as relevant to the theme.

Even if the real designs are completely different from these two, it'll mainly come down to after I get used to them on which type I'd pick.

Lol I doubt any of these are real.. They all look too detailed and fake

 

[Hikamaru]

Lol I doubt any of these are real.. They all look too detailed and fake

I've seen fakes drawn much worse than that. Anyways, CoroCoro leaks should happen in a few weeks time and we'll see our verdict.

 

[Blastin'Tyruntz]

So it appears these two seem to be the likely suspects at the moment.

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

I think many speculate the first pic to be "legit" due to the presence of the logos, but I really don't like the design of the Water-type starter for that one. Seriously, if that first pic is the real designs then it'll be the first time I outright dislike the Water-type starter's design, although I'd definitely pick Fire, or maybe even Grass since I never used Grass in a main playthrough yet.

To me however, the second pic is what I think should be the legit one, even if a DeviantArt user claimed he drew it, it's the white borders on the pics (like the Unova starter evolutions when they were first leaked) that make me suspect it. I would definitely pick Water there, since the design reminds me of Oshawott. I feel like all three seem adorable, and the Fire starter fits into the Chinese Zodiac, being a tiger. The Fire starter in the other pic doesn't look as relevant to the theme.

Even if the real designs are completely different from these two, it'll mainly come down to after I get used to them on which type I'd pick.

I actually don't like any of the 2nd pic's starters, the water one seems like another Oshawott, the fire one seems like a Litleo and I am kinda tired of fire cats, and the grass one looks like a green Pidove.

The 1st bunch though, I like them all. I don't care about the logos, I just like the designs. The water one seems like a solid starter, not as much as I love the other 2 but still enough for me to consider picking. The fire one is just cute as all hell, and I really like the design of the eyes on it, it's a mofo hamster guys look at it. The Grass one is my favorite out of those, I really like how mean he looks and the details are great, it's just like Snivy all over again.

 

[Hikamaru]

On the topic of the Fire-type starter, I recall the rumored name "Nyabby" might also come from tabby, which is a breed of cat, and I heard they have stripes on them so that definitely backs up the "represents tiger in the Chinese Zodiac theme" theory.

The Water-type starter "Ashimari", despite the Oshawott-like design, can probably curl up into a ball, since mari means ball. We had Spheal sorta show the "ball sea-lion" thing, though Spheal is naturally ball-shaped to begin with.

And for the Grass-type starter "Mokuroh" its name seems to be wood/tree combined with owl, and looking at the supposed pics it's got owl traits but the leaves are present to show it's Grass-type, and I could see more owl traits on its possible evolutions. I've seen some think it looks too much like Pidove, but it seems to be more of an owl than a pigeon.

Definitely a lot of theories I have backing up that pic of the ones with the borders there.

 

[Pinkie-Dawn]

I'm shocked that despite all of the starter leaks minus the ones from 2ch were proven fake, people still think they could be real. I'm gonna remain with Team 2ch until next month's CoroCoro leaks are out.

 

[Z25]

Zoro, can you show us which of the art you believe is real? Also, I think the only Fire-type starter that really seems to be hated is Tepig, with Chimchar and Fennekin being a mixed bag, and the first three being the most praised.

Sure.

https://imgur.com/a/dJHef

I put them in an imgurr album as I can't find how to directly link pics.

These leaked two months before the trademarks on 2ch where 90% of all real leaks come from.

They fit Ken Suiorgomi's art well, and fit the tradition of starters not looking exactly like their base animal.

Unlike every other leak, there is no source of them, and their detailed looks come off as pretty legit imo.
I would not be surprised to see these be real.
Here's a good mockup someone did of what their final look could be:

So it appears these two seem to be the likely suspects at the moment.

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

I think many speculate the first pic to be "legit" due to the presence of the logos, but I really don't like the design of the Water-type starter for that one. Seriously, if that first pic is the real designs then it'll be the first time I outright dislike the Water-type starter's design, although I'd definitely pick Fire, or maybe even Grass since I never used Grass in a main playthrough yet.

To me however, the second pic is what I think should be the legit one, even if a DeviantArt user claimed he drew it, it's the white borders on the pics (like the Unova starter evolutions when they were first leaked) that make me suspect it. I would definitely pick Water there, since the design reminds me of Oshawott. I feel like all three seem adorable, and the Fire starter fits into the Chinese Zodiac, being a tiger. The Fire starter in the other pic doesn't look as relevant to the theme.

Even if the real designs are completely different from these two, it'll mainly come down to after I get used to them on which type I'd pick.

 

[Drake22ice]

I surely hope not for the world's sake.. The look like a five year old drew them....

 

[Z25]

Sure.

https://imgur.com/a/dJHef

I put them in an imgurr album as I can't find how to directly link pics.

These leaked two months before the trademarks on 2ch where 90% of all real leaks come from.

They fit Ken Suiorgomi's art well, and fit the tradition of starters not looking exactly like their base animal.

Unlike every other leak, there is no source of them, and their detailed looks come off as pretty legit imo.
I would not be surprised to see these be real.
Here's a good mockup someone did of what their final look could be:

Here's the link for the second starters
https://lucas-costa.deviantart.com/art/POKEMON-SUN-and-MOON-STARTERS-FAKE-605408363
And the negative reaction to owl and friends also convinces me as that's how every leaked starter reaction has gone down. The ones that were loved were fake, but not the hated ones. Eventually people got used to the real ones though.

 

[Blastin'Tyruntz]

Sure.

https://imgur.com/a/dJHef

I put them in an imgurr album as I can't find how to directly link pics.

These leaked two months before the trademarks on 2ch where 90% of all real leaks come from.

They fit Ken Suiorgomi's art well, and fit the tradition of starters not looking exactly like their base animal.

Unlike every other leak, there is no source of them, and their detailed looks come off as pretty legit imo.
I would not be surprised to see these be real.
Here's a good mockup someone did of what their final look could be:

Holy hell the fire one looks ugly. I just...what is that?
The water one looks like a kid's drawing and the grass one is cute but seems more like a disney movie character than a pokemon...
The fire type one will NOT grow on me design wise, never..ever.

 

[blue]

As fun as it is to speculate, I really wouldn't believe any of these leaks unless they are from a reliable source. The only legitimate sources seem to derive from either CoroCoro or the Pokemon website.

 

[Hikamaru]

I would not be surprised to see these be real.
Here's a good mockup someone did of what their final look could be:

I don't like this one at all, the Grass-type looks too sinister, the Fire-type looks ugly, and the Water-type looks too uh, round. If these ones are the real starters then it'll probably be the first time I don't like any of the three and when I get the games I'll most likely box them and use other Pokemon of their types instead.

As we know, there has never been a trio I have been overly dissatisfied with so far, so if these designs are going to be it then I guess Game Freak have let me down big time, and I know that if I hate all the starters to the point I'm going to ditch it, that definitely means something.

 

[Z25]

I don't like this one at all, the Grass-type looks too sinister, the Fire-type looks ugly, and the Water-type looks too uh, round. If these ones are the real starters then it'll probably be the first time I don't like any of the three and when I get the games I'll most likely box them and use other Pokemon of their types instead.

As we know, there has never been a trio I have been overly dissatisfied with so far, so if these designs are going to be it then I guess Game Freak have let me down big time, and I know that if I hate all the starters to the point I'm going to ditch it, that definitely means something.

Holy hell the fire one looks ugly. I just...what is that?
The water one looks like a kid's drawing and the grass one is cute but seems more like a disney movie character than a pokemon...
The fire type one will NOT grow on me design wise, never..ever.

Man I truly do not get the hate.

I'll try to explain some things here:

1) Grass Owl is the only one to be seen truly in color. Yes the fire one has some done to it, but not enough to be truly accurate. I actually really like the owl. Using a barn owl as the base for the grass starter is pretty neat. It could lead into grass and dark, grass ground, or grass flying. I'd guess grass and dark. I don't think the owl looks evil, mischievous yes, but not evil. Which works for a starter's personality.

2) There is no full evidence of these being final designs. I'd bank on the fire and water one's looking different then everyone thinks, but due to how much farther done the owl was, it's more likely to be final. They also all fit the idea of pokemon being designed to be simplier as Ken Suiorgumi said they wanted to do with the next games. So I wouldn't judge these right away.

3) Official reveals would probably give us better views as fan renders and pictures, won't do that.

Anyway, I really love the owl and the fire rock cat could look really cute, I don't get why he's hated the most. The water looks average, but has potential. Either way we probably don't have to wait long to know the truth. Corocoro may shed some light on all of this.

 

[Hikamaru]

Man I truly do not get the hate.

I'll try to explain some things here:

1) Grass Owl is the only one to be seen truly in color. Yes the fire one has some done to it, but not enough to be truly accurate. I actually really like the owl. Using a barn owl as the base for the grass starter is pretty neat. It could lead into grass and dark, grass ground, or grass flying. I'd guess grass and dark. I don't think the owl looks evil, mischievous yes, but not evil. Which works for a starter's personality.

2) There is no full evidence of these being final designs. I'd bank on the fire and water one's looking different then everyone thinks, but due to how much farther done the owl was, it's more likely to be final. They also all fit the idea of pokemon being designed to be simplier as Ken Suiorgumi said they wanted to do with the next games. So I wouldn't judge these right away.

3) Official reveals would probably give us better views as fan renders and pictures, won't do that.

The barn owl design looks like something they're going with, it's just the eyes that I don't like here. The Fire-type looks like it'll be just as disliked as Tepig to the point no-one would want to use it, while I think Water is the only decent one, though it looks like something drawn by a kid. I heard about the "return to simplicity" direction that Sugimori was wanting to go with, so while this trio's designs are more simplistic compared to the other ones we've been speculating on, I feel like this one fell flat for me a lot by being uh, too simple.

 

[Z25]

The barn owl design looks like something they're going with, it's just the eyes that I don't like here. The Fire-type looks like it'll be just as disliked as Tepig to the point no-one would want to use it, while I think Water is the only decent one, though it looks like something drawn by a kid. I heard about the "return to simplicity" direction that Sugimori was wanting to go with, so while this trio's designs are more simplistic compared to the other ones we've been speculating on, I feel like this one fell flat for me a lot by being uh, too simple.

The owl's eyes are neat imo, but I can understand that.

As for the fire one. That might happen. I think if real, it's evos will be pretty sweet though.

The water, I think is meant to look childish. It would be like oshowott, meant to be kid friendly and appeal to children, but have an unique evolution. I could see a lot of potential if real, for it's evos.