PSP vs DS no flames

That may look flimsy, but if you?ve ever tried to break a disc like that it can bend ridiculously without breaking. If you (and I don?t suggest you do, I put a huge divot in my thumb once ;_; ) try to break a CD-R with the label facing away from you, you can literally touch the edges of the disc together without it breaking. I?m not sure how durable those are, but they?re probably better quality than those CD-Rs. o_x; Honestly I don?t think breaking the media will be a factor for either console.
 
Kairi said:
That may look flimsy, but if you?ve ever tried to break a disc like that it can bend ridiculously without breaking. If you (and I don?t suggest you do, I put a huge divot in my thumb once ;_; ) try to break a CD-R with the label facing away from you, you can literally touch the edges of the disc together without it breaking. I?m not sure how durable those are, but they?re probably better quality than those CD-Rs. o_x; Honestly I don?t think breaking the media will be a factor for either console.
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Good point! And these are smaller, inside of plastic casing.
So I don't think we will have to worry about breaking UMDs.:D
 
Dark Gogeta said:
I think that PSP wins hands down. That whole double screen thing for the DS is way too complicated for me. Also, the PSP is more like a gameboy than the DS so it will be familiar. I got the September issue of Electronic Gamer, and it gives you all the info on both on an 8 page layout. From what I read the PSP is much better.

Also, Ds is on Cartridges, and Psp is on disk and the sound will be much better. We will also be able to see and listen to movies and music on the Psp.
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It ain't complicated at all. :\ baiscally the top screen is where most of the action takes place and the other one gives you maps and data. In some cases it does other things, which I'd rather not list. Although the PSP is a good system, teh DS provides a lot more new gaming opportunities. And i don't think they'd make a game system that couldn't be understood.

And how can you get the September issue when it's hardly even August? :\
 
Pogiforce-14 said:
It ain't complicated at all. :\ baiscally the top screen is where most of the action takes place and the other one gives you maps and data. In some cases it does other things, which I'd rather not list. Although the PSP is a good system, teh DS provides a lot more new gaming opportunities. And i don't think they'd make a game system that couldn't be understood.

And how can you get the September issue when it's hardly even August? :\
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Issues always come out a month early.
And I think the DS thing is complicated too.
 
Pogiforce-14 said:
If tehy really come out a month early then why do they label them for the folowing month? It seems to me that no matter how early, it shouldn't be out this early in the prior month.:\ It just doesn't make sense that way.
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I have no idea why they do that, its just the way it is. Lets not get off topic.
 
Personally, I don't think you can compare the two. I also think that those two portables aren't meant to compete. The DS is not the next Game Boy. The PSP is Sony's answer to the Game Boy; therefore, it was originally intended to compete with the AGB/AGS not the DS. The DS is a third pillar and the EGB is in development (to my knowledge); that being the next Game Boy, therefore the competition to the PSP. The DS and PSP are significantly different.

But alas, despite what I may say and think, because they come out at a similar time and are both handhelds they are destined to compete.
 
TRIFORCE89 said:
Personally, I don't think you can compare the two. I also think that those two portables aren't meant to compete. The DS is not the next Game Boy. The PSP is Sony's answer to the Game Boy; therefore, it was originally intended to compete with the AGB/AGS not the DS. The DS is a third pillar and the EGB is in development (to my knowledge); that being the next Game Boy, therefore the competition to the PSP. The DS and PSP are significantly different.

But alas, despite what I may say and think, because they come out at a similar time and are both handhelds they are destined to compete.
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If DS is not a Gameboy, then what is it? They took logical steps to make it the next GB, like making N64 games and stuff...

Nintendo did say that they wanted it to sell alongside GBA, but there is no point when a DS can play GBA games.(another logical step, backwards compatibility)

If you are implying that the DS is just a GBA with extra features, then I disagree with you.(you probably don't think this, but I will say it just incase)

The key word is 'backwards compatibility'

If DS going backwards= GBA, then likewise
GBA going forward= DS

Meaning DS is the next gameboy.

If the two machines werent meant to be compared in the video game market, then why would they be released at around the same time?

I think you are taking thinks a little bit too technically, and missing what common sense implies.
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Oh yea, the EGB is not real. It was one of the names that was rumored for the DS.
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Nintendo also used the occasion to reveal the final name of the DS, which had been the device's code name up until now. After rumors of various acronym configurations--including "DGB," "EGB," "GBE," "XGB," "GBD," "XGB," and "WGB"--the company has chosen to call the device...the Nintendo DS. Nintendo outlined its complex reasoning for the choice in a statement: "The Nintendo DS name evokes the idea of a portable system with 'dual screens,' providing the rationale for the final name."
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Gamespot

So if you were thinking EGB was the real next gameboy, then sorry to say, but you're wrong. The DS took all the logical steps(and more) to be the next Gameboy.
Maybe they coulda just got sick of the name Gameboy?
 
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LittleFascistPanties16 said:
If DS is not a Gameboy, then what is it? They took logical steps to make it the next GB, like making N64 games and stuff...

Nintendo did say that they wanted it to sell alongside GBA, but there is no point when a DS can play GBA games.(another logical step, backwards compatibility)
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DS is a new third pillar with the Game Boy being one of the two previous pillars. At one point we'll have a Nintendo console (possibly Revolution), a DS portable (be it the same or its successor), and a Game Boy portable (Evolution) all on the market at once. To me, Game Boy and DS are seperate despite the backwards compatibility.

LittleFascistPanties16 said:
If you are implying that the DS is just a GBA with extra features, then I disagree with you.(you probably don't think this, but I will say it just incase)
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Nope. I wasn't implying this.

LittleFascistPanties16 said:
I think you are taking thinks a little bit too technically, and missing what common sense implies.
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Yep, that's me. I do that a lot.

EDIT: About the EGB. The EGB was what I've always called the next Game Boy, even before DS was mentioned or any rumours about the next Game Boy came. I've been calling it EGB since the AGB was released, so what I call it means nothing. Whatever the name is, there will be a true successor to the Game Boy. I read in an interview recently about the Game Boy's successor. I just don't remember where I read it. When I find it, I'll post the quote.
 
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I did hear though that teh DS is not the next gameboy. He may have something there. The DS is supposed to be a completely seperate system.
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?Does it only occur to me that the DS looks like a mix between GBA and GBASP?

I don't know why this wouldn't be the next gameboy, this would be a extremely un-logical choice for Nintendo. Plus its just common sense that the next GB would play N64. Why would you think otherwise? It seems like an extremly random, stupid move for Nintendo to make.

You may very-well be right about this. But that still doesent change the fact that DS and PSP are made to sell vs eachother.
 
It does look like a cross, but if it was all about looks, PS2 wouldn't be so popular, would it? :D What probably sets the GB series away from DS is the fact that DS does so many thing other than jsut play games. Tehy may eventually drop GB all together and do jsut DS but for now they're considered seperate lines.
 
Questions & Answers

Q: The Game Boy brand is the most powerful in handheld gaming and the DS is a handheld system. Are you really not going to call it Game Boy?

Answer (Mr. Tazuka) : The DS is not simply an expansion of Game Boy, it's an entirely new system with entirely new capabilities and for that reason we're not going to call it Game Boy. And that's actually why we didn't announce that the system would be backward compatible with Game Boy Advance software when we first announced the DS, because we wanted people to have a chance to see the system, understand the concept behind it, and accept the fact that it's not just a mere extension of Game Boy hardware.
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Nintendo's own website. You are right. But that doesent change the fact that DS is selling against PSP. When the average consumer walks into the store, they aren't there to ask if the DS is the newest gameboy, because it is already implied upon us that it is the next gameboy.

Therefore, when the average consumer is looking for a handheld, they don't think "Is this the next gameboy, or is it the third pillar, which is not an extension of the gameboy, because it provides different gameplay styles which have never been used before?"

It is a common-person kinda idea, that DS is the next gameboy.
And it's a common-person kinda idea, that PSP is 'sony's gameboy'

I think they are destined to battle:D
 
Pogiforce-14 said:
We didn't dispute that. We were simply discussing what Nintendo may do later on with the DS.
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TRIFORCE89 said:
Personally, I don't think you can compare the two.
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Does that answer your question? I am just explaining that you can compare the two, because they are both handhelds that are being released roughly around the same time. Thats kinda what this thread is about.
 
Yeah I've been thinking. They're using the memory stick for the PSP as astorage device for saved games right? If they are, then half the population with cybershots will already have the memory card for the PSP and therefore wouldn't NEED to buy an extra memory card (=genius move by Sony). And last time I checked, memory sticks are cheap as heck for storage.

As for the DS. I'm not sure about the expansion pack thing that they're planning. It can't possibly push the DS's capabilities (nothing more than crappy GCN game graphics at most. And that's pushing it with expansion). And as LFP16 said, the cartridges are 12 times smaller in size than UMDs PLUS the fact that cartridges CANNOT do disc changes like regular systems. Their advantage here tho is the small size of the cartridges versus the UMDs' sizes (I don't know about anyone, but I am darn uncomfortable having even 1 minidisc in my backpocket compared to me having several GBA games in my backpocket.
 
Kenny_C.002 said:
Yeah I've been thinking. They're using the memory stick for the PSP as astorage device for saved games right? If they are, then half the population with cybershots will already have the memory card for the PSP and therefore wouldn't NEED to buy an extra memory card (=genius move by Sony). And last time I checked, memory sticks are cheap as heck for storage.

As for the DS. I'm not sure about the expansion pack thing that they're planning. It can't possibly push the DS's capabilities (nothing more than crappy GCN game graphics at most. And that's pushing it with expansion). And as LFP16 said, the cartridges are 12 times smaller in size than UMDs PLUS the fact that cartridges CANNOT do disc changes like regular systems. Their advantage here tho is the small size of the cartridges versus the UMDs' sizes (I don't know about anyone, but I am darn uncomfortable having even 1 minidisc in my backpocket compared to me having several GBA games in my backpocket.
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never heard anything about an expansion pack. But I msut protest to calling GCN graphics crappy. They're rather quite good. and that memory stick thing, Last I heard it was your basic PS2 memory card because it should be able to plug into the PS2. if that is what you meant by stick, then that wa an unfamiliar term to me, but otherwise I think your mistaken. They would need a mermoy card that works jsut like a PS2 memory card, and the stick you suggested soudns like it wasn't meant for the PS2. And what the heck is a cybershot? :\
 
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