PSP vs DS no flames

Sorry. I thought it was the digital camera memory stick (since it's much more portable and has essentially the PS2 memory card in terms of storage space). Thanks for clearing it up. btw, that would be a big minus since a single PS2 memory card is the size of like 1.5 GBA cartridges, which can start adding up on the weight of the PSP (whereas the memory stick is light, portable, and generally beter than a PS2 memory card).

As for the GCN thing. I should clear things up that I meant "really, really crappy GCN games done by some horrific 3rd party developer who doesn't know what they're doing when they made the game", rather than GCN itself having crappy graphics (as I said b4, the GCN has slightly better specs than the PS2, so I wouldn't be dissing the GCN. Besides, I only HAVE the GCN and not the PS2 to begin with).
 
Well in my opinion, Sony always exagerates the truth. I am always going to like the Playstation over the 64 and PS2 over the Gamecube but for handhelds Nintendo is God. The DS has a great design and who is to say thats what the final product is going to look like.

PSP Pros and Cons
+Big Screen
+Nice Graphics
-No cover
Final Thought, if you have a PS2 forget the PSP

DS Pros and Cons
+Dual Screens
+Better Quality
+Better Games
-Second touch screen could scratch easily
Final Thought, Can't wait.
 
Overlord Sato said:
Well in my opinion, Sony always exagerates the truth. I am always going to like the Playstation over the 64 and PS2 over the Gamecube but for handhelds Nintendo is God. The DS has a great design and who is to say thats what the final product is going to look like.

PSP Pros and Cons
+Big Screen
+Nice Graphics
-No cover
Final Thought, if you have a PS2 forget the PSP

DS Pros and Cons
+Dual Screens
+Better Quality
+Better Games
-Second touch screen could scratch easily
Final Thought, Can't wait.
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Nintendo confirmed that it is the final model. We will have to take it or leave it.

How does Sony exaggerrate? They just gave out system specs and game developers....
They completely exaggeratted...

Umm, sure Nintendo may be the king of handhelds, but Nintendo used to be the king of home consoles too, untill Sony came along and took them over. I think a similar case is waiting for PSP.
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PSP Pros and Cons
+PS2 quality games
+Movies, music
+USB accessories
USB microphone(you dont have to hold the console up to your face)
USB keyboard
USB camera
USB GPS(OMG, my video game console is gonna save my life) XD
More TBA
+UMD is cheaper to manufacture with over 12x the space of DS cart
+Memory cards(32MB) provide an unlimited amount of space(if you run out of space, you can get a new one, can't do that with a DS cart.)
+Memory card slot has the potential to be a cartrige slot
-does not have two screens(umm I don't like the idea anyway)
-no touch screen
Final thought, waiting is H-E-Double-Hockeysticks

DS Pros and Cons
+Two Screens
+Touch screen
+Microphone(but you have to hold it close to your face)
+uhhh...does your laundry?
-N64 Quality games
-Smaller amount of space on cartrige, with higher cost to manufacture
-no USB ports
-no movies, music, etc
Final thought, I will do my own laundry, thank you

I don't see what you meant by higher quality. Does it use an advanced kind of polyurethane? If you're talking about better system specs, then you're wrong... I have no idea what you meant though.
 
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We still have to remember where the Playstation came from. The Super Nintendo was one of the best systems ever and back before the Playstation they were going to release the Nintendo CD an attachment to the Super Nintendo the people got into an argument and the left Nintendo and they made Playstation which everyone who was anyone had to have.
 
I'm just prooving the point that while Nintendo used to be king there not anymore. They are still the handheld kings but thats about it. The DS will do better than the PSP. Thats all I was trying to say...sorry about the confusion.
 
Overlord Sato said:
I'm just prooving the point that while Nintendo used to be king there not anymore. They are still the handheld kings but thats about it. The DS will do better than the PSP. Thats all I was trying to say...sorry about the confusion.
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Why do you base the future soley on the past?

Caves used to be the king of houses.... So that means that it will dominate a brick house...

Nintendo used to be the king of consoles...So that means it will dominate Sony forever?

Is it impossible for Sony's PSP to outsell the DS?
 
I'm not saying that, its just whats the point of getting the PSP...I mean with all the PDA's, MP3 Players, and Cell phones all of wich can be very high end, whats the point of the PSP...the games? I perfectly happy with the GBA and my PS2.

In the long run Sony is going to have to try harder if they want to compete with Nintendo in the handheld wars.

Maybe if the PSP is a good price, maybe it would be worth picking up...other than that, I don't know. And who is to say that the DS will dominate its just my opinion.
 
Overlord Sato said:
I'm not saying that, its just whats the point of getting the PSP...I mean with all the PDA's, MP3 Players, and Cell phones all of wich can be very high end, whats the point of the PSP...the games? I perfectly happy with the GBA and my PS2.

In the long run Sony is going to have to try harder if they want to compete with Nintendo in the handheld wars.

Maybe if the PSP is a good price, maybe it would be worth picking up...other than that, I don't know. And who is to say that the DS will dominate its just my opinion.
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Yes, the point of PSP is the games, the other things are extras. But, no matter how you look at it, extras are always better. I know that the point of a console is to play games, but surely the DS would be better if it could play movies, no?

The game quality is far better on the PSP than compared to the DS. It can play PS2 quality games, wheras the DS can only play N64 games. The only good game I've seen for DS is that Metroid game; and you have to use the stylus to shoot.

How the fudge do you know what the PSP's price is? For all we know, Sony is going to give them all away for free. Sony hasn't released the price yet. EVERYTHING is about prices is speculation.

Who is to say that DS will dominate
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You said it! I am confident that the PSP will be the successor as the new king of handhelds. The DS is just a novelty. Two screens and a touch screen. What other features does it have that contribute to good gaming?
 
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Who's to say teh PSP dominates either? Frankly the DS has an advantage when it comes to getting things sold because they have history that peopel will look at, and they're reverse capapability is going to be a big plus.

Don't forget, Nintendo is not only king of hand helds, it is also a major competitor in the home systems as well, plus they have thriving investments in tcgs.

Frankly, in terms of home systems, teh Gamecube is more trustworthy than the PS2, in terms of indurance and hardware. you ahve to actually try to break a GC for it to actually break, but breaking the PS2 is as easy as" Woops, it fell of the coffee table onto a pillow."

The DS a novelty? For all you know, UMDs in handhelds is a novelty. And I think you underestimate noveltys. Our life is full of things that used to be noveltys. TV was a novelty, people thought it wouldn't last.Wrong. Air flight. people thought it was too dangerous and wouldn't last. Wrong. Computers. People thought they would never be practical and that they wouldn't last. Wrong. Novelty items quickly become things you can't live without. Video games were noveltys once. And until Nintendo came along to introduce better graphics and new gaming ideas, people called it all a novelty that wouldn't last. How wrong they were. :D

in teh end, I think that the DS will likely sell more, although the PSP will sell a great deal as well. Still, I'm willing to bet that while a lot of PS lovers willget a DS, it won't be teh same for Nintendo lovers. Again, the DS just seems to promise more gaming capabilities. Sorry if my opinion somewhat clashes with yours.:D
 
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Pogiforce-14 said:
Who's to say teh PSP dominates either? Frankly the DS has an advantage when it comes to getting things sold because they have history that peopel will look at, and they're reverse capapability is going to be a big plus.

Don't forget, Nintendo is not only king of hand helds, it is also a major competitor in the home systems as well, plus they have thriving investments in tcgs.

Frankly, in terms of home systems, teh Gamecube is more trustworthy than the PS2, in terms of indurance and hardware. you ahve to actually try to break a GC for it to actually break, but breaking the PS2 is as easy as" Woops, it fell of the coffee table onto a pillow."

in teh end, I think that the DS will likely sell more, although the PSP will sell a great deal as well. Still, I'm willing to bet that while a lot of PS lovers willget a DS, it won't be teh same for Nintendo lovers. Again, the DS just seems to promise more gaming capabilities. Sorry if my opinion somewhat clashes with yours.:D
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All of that is sarcasm. No truth involved. Ignoring this post seems like a better option.

?Opinion clashing? I'm not even going to say anything...
 
it is not all opinion, it is truth. I friend of mine has ahd a PS2 longer than any other friend, and yet even he agrees that PS2 is the glitchiest system he has ever played. It took him forever jsut the other day just to play a game. And don't forget that other friend of mine who dropped his gamecube from a second story window and it stil works like new.

And teh DS does have an advantages. I already told you what they are. All my friends are gamers, as well as a lot of people I know both in society and in school. And I've come to know what they want out of a gamesystem. And you can't deny that they are the king of handhelds, they are a major competitor, and they are thriving in TCGs. what I said was not all opinion. It was the truth as I see it from my own personal experiences as a gamer. And i've been gaming since I've been able to remember.

and maybe you should double check my last post, as i see you missed the part I had edited in about your thing about "noveltys" . :)
 
At least Metriod does show the DS *is* capable of decent looking games. If any developers besides Nintendo actually take advantage of that, we?ll see. If the DS is considerably lower than the PSP, then a lot of kids will be getting it. And Animal Crossing has a pretty big following I understand, especially with the types of people who stereotypically don?t play video games (older adults, women)

And, personally I?ll be getting both, but I sure hope the PSP can hook to the PS2 to play games on TVs(can it?) cause I don?t really care about the portability. @_@; I find gaming on the go more tiring and frustrating than anything else. <_<; I don?t intend to use the online of the DS unless it works off of home wireless routers (and again, please inform me if possible). Now if it does, it?d be really nice to see some decent Nintendo games online. Not that I didn?t like PSO, but Sonic Team doesn?t get the idea online games are meant to GROW, especially when you shell out so much for them. <_<;
 
I have to admit that the PSP is a more powerful system that is more likely to publish more popular games, but I personally have had problems with Sony's systems. My PS1 had long lag times and at times wouldn't work at all, thus discouraging me from getting a PS2. And from what I've seen of the PS2 from my friends, it is equally annoying with lag times and games freezing. Nintendo publishes games that are much more intersting IMO, and I never once had to wait for a game to load on my GCN.

Now as for my prediction as to who will win this competition, I think gamers will align with PSP if they think PS2 beats GCN, and Nintendo fanboys/girls (like the majority of the people here) will align with the DS. Outsiders (people who are not yet real gamers, but considering getting their first handheld) will probably choose the DS cuz of Nintendo's history in making quality video games.

I wonder how the Xbox fanboys will align...
 
Pogiforce-14 said:
it is not all opinion, it is truth. I friend of mine has ahd a PS2 longer than any other friend, and yet even he agrees that PS2 is the glitchiest system he has ever played. It took him forever jsut the other day just to play a game. And don't forget that other friend of mine who dropped his gamecube from a second story window and it stil works like new.

And teh DS does have an advantages. I already told you what they are. All my friends are gamers, as well as a lot of people I know both in society and in school. And I've come to know what they want out of a gamesystem. And you can't deny that they are the king of handhelds, they are a major competitor, and they are thriving in TCGs. what I said was not all opinion. It was the truth as I see it from my own personal experiences as a gamer. And i've been gaming since I've been able to remember.

and maybe you should double check my last post, as i see you missed the part I had edited in about your thing about "noveltys" . :)
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Do you think I care what your gamer friends think? The people I go to work with are gamers. Some random guy off the street is a gamer. blah!

I've never had a problem with my PS2. No lag, no glitches, no nothing.
But I think I will reverse what you said about PS2.

GCN is the glitchyst system around. It would break if i dropped it into a chamber of exotic matter.

Your novelty post was a waste of time. Has it occured to you that those were all 'long-shots'? They took at huge risk in doing what they did, and they had a large chance of failing. I don't want to spend $150+ on a long-shot that will most-likely fail. I want a reliable system that already has all of the elements that make a good game.

No screen bashing. No messing with two screens. No pictochat. No stylus for a game.

Game systems were made for gaming. You all use that 'movies and music' excuse against the PSP, even though they are great additions, so blah.
 
My friend has broken a Gamecube just by playing it. My PS2 is near death, with DREs all the time. I don?t think you can fairly say either console will last longer or is more gitchy. Because, short of hardware errors, it?s the software that you?re mostly having issues with crashing and stuff.
And Pogiforce, LFP16, settle down a bit. You?ve been doing okay, but just politely reply and if a post really bothers you or you feel it?s not well grounded, let a mod take care of it please.
 
LittleFascistPanties16 said:
Do you think I care what your gamer friends think? The people I go to work with are gamers. Some random guy off the street is a gamer. blah!

I've never had a problem with my PS2. No lag, no glitches, no nothing.
But I think I will reverse what you said about PS2.

GCN is the glitchyst system around. It would break if i dropped it into a chamber of exotic matter.

Your novelty post was a waste of time. Has it occured to you that those were all 'long-shots'? They took at huge risk in doing what they did, and they had a large chance of failing. I don't want to spend $150+ on a long-shot that will most-likely fail. I want a reliable system that already has all of the elements that make a good game.

No screen bashing. No messing with two screens. No pictochat. No stylus for a game.

Game systems were made for gaming. You all use that 'movies and music' excuse against the PSP, even though they are great additions, so blah.
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First of all, PS2 breaks on accident all teh time. Dropping a gamecube into Excotic material as you put it is showing that your trying to break it and doesn't prove anything. PS2 would die in exotic materials too for that matter.

And of course those people are gamers. It's those people that are the buyers ! you can call them ignorant or whatever you want, but that doesn't change tehhfact that gamers will most likely go the way both me and Tmbjr said. Sue the nation for being stupid if you have something against them. :P

And what makes you think that two screens and such aren't great additions? Since when do you judge what addition is great and what isn't? It is all of society that judges that, not just one disgruntled teenager.

And on another note, life is all about taking risks and slim chances. Even now your taking a chance that one of us could really be one of those net stalkers and is hacking your computer to find out where you live. just an example. :P If anyone lived a life where they made no chances and took no risks, then they would be living the the saddest, B.S.yest, most boring life ever. Not taking chances means not even confronting someone to ask if they'd be your friend or admit you love someone. You said that they were all long shots and the DS is a long shot that you wouldn't stake anything on. judging from past experience with long shots, I'm willing to bet the DS will be around for a long time to come. :D
 
Pogiforce-14 said:
And you can't deny that they are the king of handhelds
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How are they the king of handhelds when they haven't had any real competition in a LONG time (other then N-Gage)? Honestly, the last system to give them some competition in hendhelds was Sega, and that was a long time ago. It's not fair for you to say that the DS will win cause they're the "king of handhelds", cause they also used to be the kind of console, but that changed.

My Gamecube broke on me, and I didn't drop it or anything, yet my PS2 still works fine, so they're even.

EDIT: Kairi beat me to proving a point. >=O
 
To Nick: that's my point .They've had no competition because they've destroyed it before it could even get moving. Since it's creation, 12 systems have competed with GB and failed. And don't ask me to provide where I heard that cause I don't remember other than it's a creditable source. (GI, I believe it was. If I find it I'll post it.) Few people want to break off of something running where what they ahd before will still work to use something Brand spanking new that they have nothing for. the DS will have past games and additions that it can make use of. While right now, all the PSP has is itself. Nintendo is indeed the king of handhelds, and there is no denying it.

And actually, I ahven't been sarcastic. The only instance of me being truly sarcastic was wehn I apologized about clashing opinions. Every other time I've been very serious about the whole thing. But I'll try to calm it down some. i'll try.
 
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