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    Sorry for another one of these threads, but I couldn't find one for X and Y. Don't suggest übers, unless specifically stated by the person posting their team, and please don't just suggest Greninja and Talonflame for every team. Anyway, let's get started!

    I am going for a miscellaneous weather team. I know it needs work, but I don't know how.

    Hydreigon, Dark/Dragon - SpAtk/Spd
    -Flash Cannon STEEL
    -Dragon Pulse DRAGON
    -Dark Pulse DARK
    -Earthquake GROUND

    Swanna, Water/Flying - SpAtk/Spd
    -Rain Dance SUPPORT
    -Surf WATER
    -Hurricane FLYING
    -Defog SUPPORT

    Lucario, Fighting/Steel - Atk/Spd
    -Stone Edge ROCK
    -Swords Dance SUPPORT
    -Close Combat FIGHTING
    -ExtremeSpeed NORMAL

    Gardevoir, Psychic/Fairy - SpAtk/Spd
    -Moonblast FAIRY
    -Psychic PSYCHIC
    -Thunderbolt ELECTRIC
    -Thunder Wave STATUS

    Victreebel, Grass/Poison - SpAtk/Spd
    -Sleep Powder STATUS
    -Sunny Day SUPPORT
    -Solar Beam GRASS
    -Sludge Bomb POISON

    Volcarona, Bug/Fire - SpAtk/Spd
    -Fly FLYING
    -Fiery Dance FIRE
    -Bug Buzz BUG
    -Quiver Dance SUPPORT
     
    I'm scared to rate other teams, since people might disagree, jump down my thoat and rip me up for being new to Pokemon.
    But... I would say good team! However I think there needs to be a Pokemon with high defence. Maybe swap Lucario or Mega Aggron?

    But ignore me, my knowledge is thin.
    But my team is:

    Omastar (Special attacker):
    ShellSmash
    Surf
    Ice Beam
    Aceint(?) Power

    Drapion (Defence wall and T Spikes):
    Toxic Spikes
    Roar
    Knock Off
    Poison Fist...? Poison something :/

    Goodra (SURPRISE, PYSICAL GOODRA):
    Earthquake
    Dragon Tail
    Grass Whip? Is that right?
    Aqua Tail

    Ditto(He is a Imposter badass)
    Transform

    Pinsir (MEGA)
    Quick attack
    Earthquake
    Swords dance
    Close Combat

    Sableye:
    Recover
    Confuse Ray
    Wil-o-wisp
    Taunt
     
    If possible, could you provide us with some more info on your Pokémon (such as what natures are, what abilities they have, what kind of items they're holding, etc)? That'd make it a bit more easy for us to rate your team. :] This isn't the correct forum for these kind of threads, by the way; I'm moving it to Battle Center.

    Moved.
     
    One thing about MelonFrog's team, you probably need a Rapid Spinner, and more synergy. I noticed that your team members don't benefit each other much, so that could be where you need to improve.

    Also, I pick the first ability, IVs, and nature that I get with each Pokémon I get. This is to add some level of difficulty to the game, though it honestly doesn't make a difference. I still EV train, obviously. For items, I have not decided yet.

    Does anybody else have a team? Or opinions on already posted ones?
     
    Sorry for another one of these threads, but I couldn't find one for X and Y. Don't suggest übers, unless specifically stated by the person posting their team, and please don't just suggest Greninja and Talonflame for every team. Anyway, let's get started!

    I am going for a miscellaneous weather team. I know it needs work, but I don't know how.

    Hydreigon, Dark/Dragon - SpAtk/Spd
    -Flash Cannon STEEL
    -Dragon Pulse DRAGON
    -Dark Pulse DARK
    -Earthquake GROUND

    Swanna, Water/Flying - SpAtk/Spd
    -Rain Dance SUPPORT
    -Surf WATER
    -Hurricane FLYING
    -Defog SUPPORT

    Lucario, Fighting/Steel - Atk/Spd
    -Stone Edge ROCK
    -Swords Dance SUPPORT
    -Close Combat FIGHTING
    -ExtremeSpeed NORMAL

    Gardevoir, Psychic/Fairy - SpAtk/Spd
    -Moonblast FAIRY
    -Psychic PSYCHIC
    -Thunderbolt ELECTRIC
    -Thunder Wave STATUS

    Victreebel, Grass/Poison - SpAtk/Spd
    -Sleep Powder STATUS
    -Sunny Day SUPPORT
    -Solar Beam GRASS
    -Sludge Bomb POISON

    Volcarona, Bug/Fire - SpAtk/Spd
    -Fly FLYING
    -Fiery Dance FIRE
    -Bug Buzz BUG
    -Quiver Dance SUPPORT
    Pick a weather and stick with it; two or more weathers means the team has no overall strategy. No need to say types of moves, Pokemon or the like; this should be common knowledge for competitive battlers.

    Mixed Hydreigon should look like this:
    -Draco Meteor
    -Dark Pulse
    -Iron Tail/Superpower/Flash Cannon
    -Fire Blast/Roost
    Nature: Rash/Mild/Modest
    EVs: 40 Atk/236 SAtk/232 Spe
    Item: Life Orb

    or
    -Draco Meteor
    -Dark Pulse
    -Flash Cannon
    -Fire Blast/Earth Power
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Specs

    Kingdra is one of the best rain abusers out there, outclassing Swanna at the role. Swanna's offenses are mediocre, tbh:
    -Hydro Pump
    -Draco Meteor
    -Surf/Waterfall
    -Rain Dance/Dragon Pulse
    Nature: Modest/Rash/Naive
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Damp Rock/Life Orb
    Ability: Swift Swim

    Stone Edge doesn't give Lucario noteworthy coverage. The other options it should be bothering with are Crunch, Shadow Claw (both useful for Darks and Ghosts) and Ice Punch (useful for Dragons, Gliscor and Landorus).

    Thunder Wave is best used on support Gardevoir. Offensive Gardevoir should use:
    -Hyper Voice
    -Psyshock
    -Shadow Ball
    -Focus Blast
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Gardevoirite
    Ability: Trace (becomes Pixilate upon Mega Evolution)

    or
    -Substitute
    -Moonblast
    -Focus Blast
    -Psyshock/Will-o-Wisp/Shadow Ball
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Leftovers
    Ability: Trace

    or
    -Moonblast
    -Shadow Ball/Psyshock
    -Focus Blast
    -Trick/Healing Wish
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Scarf
    Ability: Trace

    Defensive Gardevoir should use:
    -Wish
    -Protect
    -Moonblast
    -Will-o-Wisp/Heal Bell
    Nature: Calm
    EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Trace

    Victreebel is lackluster without sun support. In its place, a Rapid Spinner is preferred, due to Volcarona's Stealth Rock weakness:
    Starmie:
    -Hydro Pump/Surf
    -Psyshock/Thunderbolt
    -Ice Beam
    -Rapid Spin
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Leftovers
    Ability: Natural Cure

    or
    -Scald
    -Rapid Spin
    -Psyshock/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt
    -Recover
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 248 HP/32 Def/4 SAtk/224 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Natural Cure

    Excadrill:
    -Earthquake
    -Rock Slide/Iron Head
    -Rapid Spin
    -Stealth Rock/Swords Dance
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Chople Berry/Air Balloon
    Ability: Mold Breaker

    or
    -Earthquake
    -Iron Head
    -Rock Slide/X-Scissor/Shadow Claw
    -Rapid Spin
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Scarf
    Ability: Mold Breaker

    or
    -Earthquake
    -Iron Head
    -Rock Slide/Shadow Claw
    -Rapid Spin
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 248 HP/136 Atk/24 SDef/100 Spe
    Item: Assault Vest
    Ability: Mold Breaker

    Speaking of Volcarona, Fly is a bad option for it; not only is it weak coming off of 60 Attack, but it's easily played around. Use Giga Drain for healing, Hidden Power (Ground) for Heatran or Hurricane to benefit from the possible rain that you have.
    Melonfrog said:
    I'm scared to rate other teams, since people might disagree, jump down my thoat and rip me up for being new to Pokemon.
    But... I would say good team! However I think there needs to be a Pokemon with high defence. Maybe swap Lucario or Mega Aggron?

    But ignore me, my knowledge is thin.
    But my team is:

    Omastar (Special attacker):
    ShellSmash
    Surf
    Ice Beam
    Aceint(?) Power

    Drapion (Defence wall and T Spikes):
    Toxic Spikes
    Roar
    Knock Off
    Poison Fist...? Poison something :/

    Goodra (SURPRISE, PYSICAL GOODRA):
    Earthquake
    Dragon Tail
    Grass Whip? Is that right?
    Aqua Tail

    Ditto(He is a Imposter badass)
    Transform

    Pinsir (MEGA)
    Quick attack
    Earthquake
    Swords dance
    Close Combat

    Sableye:
    Recover
    Confuse Ray
    Wil-o-wisp
    Taunt

    EV spreads are needed, Melonfrog.

    Omastar should use:
    -Shell Smash
    -Hydro Pump/Surf
    -Ice Beam
    -Hidden Power (Grass)/Ancient Power
    Nature: Timid/Modest
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: White Herb
    Ability: Swift Swim/Weak Armor

    Also consider Barbaracle on the physical end of Shell Smashing:
    -Shell Smash
    -Stone Edge
    -Razor Shell
    -Cross Chop/Earthquake
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: White Herb/Lum Berry
    Ability: Tough Claws

    Specially defensive Drapion should look like this:
    -Toxic Spikes
    -Whirlwind (Roar is acceptable if you didn't breed)
    -Knock Off
    -Taunt
    Nature: Careful
    EVs: 248 HP/244 SDef/16 Spe
    Item: Black Sludge
    Ability: Battle Armor

    Physical Goodra is weaker compared to its special counterpart. Either use special Goodra or use a better, more able physically-oriented Dragon like Dragonite or Garchomp:
    -Draco Meteor
    -Fire Blast
    -Sludge Bomb/Thunderbolt
    -Focus Blast/Dragon Tail
    Nature: Modest/Quiet/Sassy
    EVs: 248 HP/252 SAtk/8 SDef
    Item: Choice Specs/Leftovers/Assault Vest
    Ability: Gooey/Sap Sipper

    or
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Flamethrower
    -Focus Blast/Thunderbolt
    -Toxic/Dragon Tail
    Nature: Calm/Sassy
    EVs: 248 HP/8 Def/252 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Gooey/Sap Sipper

    Dragonite:
    -Dragon Dance
    -Dragon Claw/Outrage
    -Extreme Speed
    -Fire Punch/Thunder Punch/Earthquake
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Lum Berry/Weakness Policy
    Ability: Multiscale

    Garchomp:
    -Swords Dance
    -Outrage/Dragon Claw
    -Earthquake
    -Fire Fang/Stone Edge
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Lum Berry/Yache Berry

    or
    -Stealth Rock
    -Earthquake
    -Outrage/Dragon Claw
    -Fire Blast/Swords Dance
    Nature: Naive/Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Lum Berry/Focus Sash

    or
    -Outrage
    -Earthquake
    -Stone Edge/Fire Fang/Fire Blast
    -Dragon Claw/Dual Chop
    Nature: Jolly/Naive
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Band/Choice Scarf

    Mega Pinsir needs STAB Return so that it doesn't have to rely on unSTABed coverage moves to sweep.:
    -Swords Dance
    -Return
    -Earthquake
    -Quick Attack
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Pinsirite

    Sableye is complete Taunt bait currently. Confusion is an unreliable status to inflict:
    -Taunt
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Recover
    -Foul Play/Knock Off
    Nature: Calm/Careful
    EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Prankster
     
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    Thank you. I was thinking about using a sun team, because Swanna is mediocre at best. I'm implementing many of these changes already, but I need better sun support. Lucario only had Stone Edge because he previously had Earthquake, and I had to shift things around. The types after the moves and things are just for reference, because I want to quickly look over my team and adjust for coverage. Are there any ways to better use the sun?
     
    Thank you. I was thinking about using a sun team, because Swanna is mediocre at best. I'm implementing many of these changes already, but I need better sun support. Lucario only had Stone Edge because he previously had Earthquake, and I had to shift things around. The types after the moves and things are just for reference, because I want to quickly look over my team and adjust for coverage. Are there any ways to better use the sun?

    I thought this was a rain team. Charizard Y or Ninetales can bring out the sun via Drought. Venusaur is the best Chlorophyll abuser, IMO. Over Kingdra, use Ninetales or Charizard Y. Replace one of your other team members with Venusaur:

    Ninetales:
    -Rest
    -Sleep Talk
    -Flamethrower
    -Will-o-Wisp
    Nature: Calm
    EVs: 248 HP/140 SDef/116 Spe
    Item: Heat Rock
    Ability: Drought

    Charizard Y:
    -Fire Blast
    -Solar Beam
    -Dragon Pulse/Focus Blast
    -Earthquake/Roost
    Nature: Hasty/Mild/Timid/Modest
    EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Charizardite Y

    Venusaur:
    -Sunny Day/Growth
    -Giga Drain/Energy Ball
    -Sludge Bomb
    -Hidden Power (Fire)/Earthquake/Sleep Powder
    Nature: Modest/Rash
    EVs: 24 HP/252 SAtk/232 Spe
    Item: Heat Rock/Life Orb
    Ability: Chlorophyll
     
    It was originally a rain team, but I realized that Sunny Day would help my Pokémon the most. I will switch to Venusaur and Ninetails. I also need to make my other team members better with the sun, though. Assuming I am using Mega Gardevoir with Hyper Voice, what else should I put in my team?
     
    I'm not entirely sure I understand this thread. Is it basically a place where everyone can come and post their teams while critiquing other's teams, all in one thread?

    I'm gonna post one of my teams too.

    I had accidentally deleted all my Showdown teams the other day, and was able to replicate them. But I cannot remember what the hell was the last member of this one Ubers team. And it probably needs a bit of work too, so please give suggestions if you can.

    -Rayquaza w/Lum Berry
    Nature: Jolly
    Ability: Air Lock
    EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Defense
    Moves: Dragon Claw, Swords Dance, V-Create, Extreme Speed

    -White Kyurem w/Life Orb
    Nature: Modest
    Abiltiy: Turboblaze
    EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
    Moves: Dragon Pulse, Fusion Flare, Ice Beam, Earth Power

    -Groudon w/Leftovers
    Nature: Adamant
    Ability: Drought
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Attack
    Moves: Earthquake, Stone Edge, Thunder Wave, Stealth Rock

    -Yveltal w/Life Orb
    Nature: Hasty
    Ability: Dark Aura
    EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Attack
    Moves: Oblivion Wing, Dark Pulse, Sucker Punch, Focus Blast

    -Arceus Electric w/Zap Plate
    Nature: Timid
    Ability: Multitype
    EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
    Moves: Thunderbolt, Calm Mind, Recover, Ice Beam

    And then there's the empty 6th slot.
     
    Yes, that is basically what this is about, Zekrom. One problem with your team is it's usability in competitive play. Everything on it is über, so if that is a deciding factor for you, you might want alternates for these Pokémon.

    From replies to my messages, I revised my team to this.

    Hydreigon, Dark/Dragon - SpAtk/Spd
    (Life Orb)
    -Flash Cannon
    -Draco Meteor
    -Dark Pulse
    -Fire Blast

    Lucario, Fighting/Steel - Atk/Spd
    (Maybe another Life Orb?)
    -Crunch
    -Swords Dance
    -Close Combat
    -ExtremeSpeed

    Gardevoir, Pixelate - SpAtk/Spd
    (Gardevoirite)
    -Hyper Voice
    -Psyshock
    -Thunderbolt
    -Thunder Wave

    Venusaur, Chlorophyll - SpAtk/Spd
    (Life Orb)
    -Sleep Powder
    -Growth
    -Solar Beam
    -Sludge Bomb

    Ninetales, Drought - HP/.5 SpDef/.5 Spd
    (Heat Rock)
    -Rest
    -Sleep Talk
    -Flamethrower
    -Will-o-Wisp

    Excadrill, Mold Breaker - Atk/Spd
    (Lum Berry)
    -Earthquake
    -Rapid Spin
    -Stealth Rocks
    -Rock Slide
     
    Yes, that is basically what this is about, Zekrom. One problem with your team is it's usability in competitive play. Everything on it is über, so if that is a deciding factor for you, you might want alternates for these Pokémon.

    Thanks for clearing that up.

    But it is an Ubers team. That's what its suppossed to be. Its for Pokemon Showdown Uber tier battles.
     
    Yes, that is basically what this is about, Zekrom. One problem with your team is it's usability in competitive play. Everything on it is über, so if that is a deciding factor for you, you might want alternates for these Pokémon.

    From replies to my messages, I revised my team to this.

    Hydreigon, Dark/Dragon - SpAtk/Spd
    (Life Orb)
    -Flash Cannon
    -Draco Meteor
    -Dark Pulse
    -Fire Blast

    Lucario, Fighting/Steel - Atk/Spd
    (Maybe another Life Orb?)
    -Crunch
    -Swords Dance
    -Close Combat
    -ExtremeSpeed

    Gardevoir, Pixelate - SpAtk/Spd
    (Gardevoirite)
    -Hyper Voice
    -Psyshock
    -Thunderbolt
    -Thunder Wave

    Venusaur, Chlorophyll - SpAtk/Spd
    (Life Orb)
    -Sleep Powder
    -Growth
    -Solar Beam
    -Sludge Bomb

    Ninetales, Drought - HP/.5 SpDef/.5 Spd
    (Heat Rock)
    -Rest
    -Sleep Talk
    -Flamethrower
    -Will-o-Wisp

    Excadrill, Mold Breaker - Atk/Spd
    (Lum Berry)
    -Earthquake
    -Rapid Spin
    -Stealth Rocks
    -Rock Slide
    Mega Gardevoir is fast enough, so it has no need for Thunder Wave. Use Shadow Ball and Focus Blast over Thunderbolt and Thunder Wave, as both moves have better coverage with Gardevoir's STABs.

    Solar Beam should only be used if you feel confident you can maintain the sun before you can use the move. I'd rather use Giga Drain or Energy Ball if Venusaur isn't using Sunny Day itself.

    Providing natures would be ideal as well, since you never posted them twice before.
     
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