1st Gen RBY Major Battles Without Wasted Potential

[KOZSTAR]

NOTE: This is my first post. I'm not sure if I'm doing anything correctly, so please, move this post to where it should be. Or just delete it. Thanks! Also, I apologize if my English is not correct.

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RBY... The start of a lifelong journey, an infinite fandom, and my favorite video game series of all time. Everyone would steal organs for this back in the 90s... I would know even though I was but barely alive. Now, even though it was the start of such an amazing series... It was the start of an amazing series. So, naturally it has its problems. So right now I will try to fix the problems.

BROCK

Geodude Lv. 11
Tackle
Defense Curl
Rock Tomb

Rhyhorn Lv. 11
Horn Attack
Rock Tomb
Growl
Bide

Onix Lv. 13
Tackle
Rock Tomb
Bind
Screech

MISTY

Krabby Lv. 20
Bubble
Screech
Sonic Boom

Gyarados Lv. 21
Water Pulse
Bite
Swords Dance
Bind

Tentacool Lv. 20
Constrict
Mega Drain
Water Pulse
Acid

Starmie Lv. 22
Water Pulse
Swift
Confusion
Mega Drain

COMMANDER SURGE

Electabuzz Lv. 25
Quick Attack
Thunder Punch
Thunder Wave
Ice Punch

Voltorb Lv. 23
Thunder Wave
Thunderbolt
Explosion
Reflect

Magnemite Lv. 25
Thunder Wave
Thunderbolt
Supersonic
Psybeam

Raichu Lv. 27
Quick Attack
Thunderbolt
Water Pulse
Rest

ERIKA

Tangela Lv. 34
Giga Drain
Headbutt
Acid
Toxic

Vileplume Lv. 36
Petal Dance
Acid
Toxic
Seismic Toss

Victrebell Lv. 34
Giga Drain
Acid
Bite
Amnesia

Parasect Lv. 34
X-Scissor
Petal Dance
Sleep Powder
Headbutt

KOGA

Weezing Lv. 40
Sludge Bomb
Explosion
Toxic
Smokescreen

Venomoth Lv. 40
Sludge Bomb
Psychic
Wing Attack
Giga Drain

Tentacruel Lv. 40
Sludge Bomb
Water Pulse
Amnesia
Psybeam

Muk Lv. 40
Sludge Bomb
Earthquake
Thunder Wave
Rest

SABRINA

Mr. Mime Lv. 42
Psychic
Reflect
Light Screen
Thunderbolt

Venomoth Lv. 44
Sludge Bomb
X-Scissor
Psychic
Toxic

Alakazam Lv. 47
Psychic
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Seismic Toss

Exeggutior Lv. 46
Giga Drain
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Thunder Wave

BLAINE

Charizard Lv. 45
Flamethrower
Wing Attack
Thunderbolt
Smokescreen

Flareon Lv. 46
Fire Blast
Shadow Ball
Bite
Quick Attack

Rapidash Lv. 46
Fire Blast
Quick Attack
Headbutt
Earthquake

Ninetales Lv. 46
Flamethrower
Swift
Giga Drain
Psychic

Arcanine Lv. 49
Fire Blast
Quick Attack
Take Down
Earthquake

GIOVANNI

Dugtrio Lv. 51
Dig
Swift
Rock Slide
Reflect

Rhydon Lv. 55
Horn Drill
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Headbutt

Golem Lv. 52
Defense Curl
Explosion
Earthquake
Flamethrower

Aerodactyl Lv. 52
Rock Slide
Bite
Wing Attack
Earthquake

Nidoking Lv. 53
Sludge Bomb
Earthquake
Flamethrower
Ice Beam

LORELEI

Dewgong Lv. 58
Water Pulse
Ice Beam
Sleep Talk
Rest

Slowbro Lv. 58
Surf
Psychic
Ice Beam
Shadow Ball

Cloyster Lv. 58
Blizzard
Surf
Reflect
Thunderbolt

Jynx Lv. 58
Psychic
Blizzard
Toxic
Barrier

Lapras Lv. 60
Blizzard
Surf
Thunderbolt
Sing

BRUNO

Machamp Lv. 59
Submission
Double Edge
Fire Blast
Earthquake

Golem Lv. 59
Explosion
Reflect
Light Screen
Rock Slide

Machamp Lv. 59
Submission
Double Edge
Swords Dance
Earthquake

Hitmonlee Lv. 61
Rolling Kick
Double Edge
Rest
Swords Dance

Hitmonchan Lv. 61
Submission
Fire Punch
Ice Punch
Thunder Punch

AGATHA

Haunter Lv. 60

Sludge Bomb
Shadow Ball
Rest
Thunder Wave

Arbok Lv. 60
Sludge Bomb
Bite
Earthquake
Flamethrower

Golbat Lv. 60
Bite
Wing Attack
Giga Drain
Sludge Bomb

Muk Lv. 60
Reflect
Light Screen
Sludge Bomb
Psychic

Gengar Lv. 62
Shadow Ball
Psychic
Thunderbolt
Blizzard

LANCE

Aerodactyl Lv. 61
Rock Slide
Wing Attack
Swords Dance
Earthquake

Dragonair Lv. 61
Dragon Rage
Ice Beam
Flamethrower
Giga Drain

Gyarados Lv. 61
Surf
Double Edge
Swords Dance
Earthquake

Charizard Lv. 61
Fire Blast
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Rest

Dragonite Lv. 63
Dragon Claw
Swords Dance
Earthquake
Quick Attack

Honestly, Gary can stay. Also, note that there will be a split in moves; one same that introduced in third generation. Moves can be melee or special not regarding their type.

Another thing I should mention. It is that I did brought in moves that weren't introduced until a later generation of games, and that is because I feel like each type should have a common amount of attacking moves. Grass should have more than solely Razor Leaf. Certainly some of you would notice this, ao I thought I should put it out there.

However, since roughly 90% of the moves would be kept as ones that were available in first generation, the randomness and uniformity of the battles of this generation is kept pretty well. And quite honestly, that is a good thing.

I'd like to hear your thoughts, should this post be welcome! :)

 

[Zeostar]

I think Brock is fine. He doesn't benefit from any changes. Rhyhorn is still getting KO'ed from anything super effective with bulbasaur and squirtle, and it's addition only further hurts those who pick charmander.

 

[Nah]

NOTE: This is my first post. I'm not sure if I'm doing anything correctly, so please, move this post to where it should be. Or just delete it. Thanks! Also, I apologize if my English is not correct.

I've moved your thread to what is the more correct section, but don't worry about it, it's not a big deal. Your English is fine too, and we're not strict about it anyway, just as long as people understand each other.

Anyway, I agree with Zeo about Brock, and Lance's Charizard being able to use Thunderbolt and Ice Beam seems weird to me. Otherwise though Gen 1 Gym Leaders could certainly use some changes (though it's hardly the only one that needs it).

 

[Corveone]

I'm pretty confused, not sure what's what you're actually trying to fix.

Brock's main problem is that both his Pokémon are 4x weak to both Grass and Water, a Rhyhorn would do nothing to improve that, Bulbasaur/Squirtle would simply outspeed and one-shot Rhyhorn as they one-shoted the Geodude before it. In fact, there's nothing you can do about Brock sucking in Gen 1 because even if you give him an Omanyte/Kabuto you only lessen his Water problem. The only Rock type in Gen 1 that isn't 4x weak to Grass is Aerodactyl, which would be ridiculous for a 1st Gym.

Then you gave Misty a Gyarados, which is a bit OP for a 2nd gym. Now, it's not really OP because you gave it a really bad move set. Why giving it Swords Dance (which is actually illegal if I'm not wrong) if it's going to attack with Bite and Bind? and its Water Stab is a special move that doesn't even benefit from Swords Dance boost. For a 2nd gym, a weaker Pokémon with a good move set would be better than an OP Pokémon with bad moves.

Speaking about illegal moves, why is there a Charizard with Thunderbolt, another Charizard with Ice Beam, Ninetales with Giga Drain, Golem with Light Screen, etc?

You've also mentioned that this would hypothetically have P/S Split, if that's the case then what's the point in giving mons with terrible Sp. Attack such as Machamp or Golem special Fire moves? Why not Fire Punch instead? or Why Surf on Lance's Gyarados instead of Waterfall?

Fixing Gen 1 is impossible if you can only use Gen 1 Pokémon. Some of the leaders and E4 are just hopeless unless you give them some Pokémon from other gens.

 

[KOZSTAR]

I'm pretty confused, not sure what's what you're actually trying to fix.

Brock's main problem is that both his Pokémon are 4x weak to both Grass and Water, a Rhyhorn would do nothing to improve that, Bulbasaur/Squirtle would simply outspeed and one-shot Rhyhorn as they one-shoted the Geodude before it. In fact, there's nothing you can do about Brock sucking in Gen 1 because even if you give him an Omanyte/Kabuto you only lessen his Water problem. The only Rock type in Gen 1 that isn't 4x weak to Grass is Aerodactyl, which would be ridiculous for a 1st Gym.

Then you gave Misty a Gyarados, which is a bit OP for a 2nd gym. Now, it's not really OP because you gave it a really bad move set. Why giving it Swords Dance (which is actually illegal if I'm not wrong) if it's going to attack with Bite and Bind? and its Water Stab is a special move that doesn't even benefit from Swords Dance boost. For a 2nd gym, a weaker Pokémon with a good move set would be better than an OP Pokémon with bad moves.

Speaking about illegal moves, why is there a Charizard with Thunderbolt, another Charizard with Ice Beam, Ninetales with Giga Drain, Golem with Light Screen, etc?

You've also mentioned that this would hypothetically have P/S Split, if that's the case then what's the point in giving mons with terrible Sp. Attack such as Machamp or Golem special Fire moves? Why not Fire Punch instead? or Why Surf on Lance's Gyarados instead of Waterfall?

Fixing Gen 1 is impossible if you can only use Gen 1 Pokémon. Some of the leaders and E4 are just hopeless unless you give them some Pokémon from other gens.

In honesty, looking at this I couldn't disagree less. I basically assumed every Pokemon could learn every move in first generation as it was all so weird 😅.

RBY does not have to be fixed, per se. All I (attempting to) do was take some of the randomness away from the game as whole (Seventh gym leader with Ember? Get the hell away from me)

I do see what you're saying though, my post doesn't fix many of the problems, just changing them. I am making a post for another generation (which will be likely much easier, due of more Pokemon to work with, moves etc.) so I will keep this and mind and do better for that one.

Thank you for your feedback! :)