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FinalPaladin said:
i use the scope lens in game.anyway just because no body really uses an item dosnt mean that its rubbsquash.and items r good for different situations
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Well, it kinda sucks. But I'm not getting through to you apparently so this is a waste of time. =X

But yeah, it does kinda show that it's rubbish. (Or at that's what I think you meant. Your grammar is kinda horrible so I couldn't tell.)

Don't know what to say on the last one. :P
 
oh well i changed my BT team.
its
my Electivire........tyranitar..................................starmie
........................crunch.......................................surf
.........................avalanch.....................................psychic
..........................rockslide/stone edge.................icebeam
...........................earthquake............................and thunder bolt

hows that then
 
I was wondering if someone could rate my movesets please, I don't use IVs/EVs so if it's okay I won't be putting them down, I just train my Pokes to high levels instead =]
I don't know much about competitive battling but I'm starting to learn, I've only just learnt what UU and OU etc mean so that should give you some idea of how much of a newbie I am XD
When I battle I work mostly on strategy with move types, the classic grass>water water>fire fire>water type scenario.

Glaceon
- Water pulse
- Ice beam
- Hidden power
- Shadow ball

Porygon-Z
- Dark pulse
- Tri attack
- Ice beam
- Thunderbolt

Magmortar
- Flamethrower
- Rock climb
- Thunderbolt
- Rock smash

Dragonite
- Wing attack
- Dragon smash
- Steel wing
- Aqua tail

Breloom
- Headbutt
- Sky uppercut
- Mega drain
- Iron tail

Hitmonchan
- Fire punch
- Stone edge
- Pursuit
- Mach punch

I think there's at least one move that works against every type but if there isn't let me know =] I'd appreciate help and suggestions with my moves if there's any that aren't too good.

Also, I've got a ton of items that can be held by Pokemon but I've no idea which would be best on which Pokemon so hopefully I can get your advice on this, these are the items I've got:

Fist plate
Wise glasses
Soft sand
Spell tag
Shell bell
Rock incense
Adamant orb (I thought maybe Dragonite could hold this because he's got both type moves)
Poison barb
Silverpowder
Icicle plate
Big root
Hard stone
Spooky plate
Dread plate
Quick powder
Scope lens
Life orb
Lax incense
Charcoal
Black belt x2
Expert belt x2
Focus sash
Rose incense
Meadow plate
Quick claw
Leftovers
Miracle seed
Grip claw
 
um.. igot a 96 streak with cressilia gengar and garchomp lost cause i got ohko by gliscor gullotine
i dont think i need to know how to defeat the tower tycoon i can massacre his pokemon i need a good one overall for the Bt
 
nice moves.replace porygon-Zs ice beam with nasty plot as a lvl100 porygon-Z can get over 800 spattack from 1 nasty plot.i need a timid starmie as he is faster than palmers milotic
 
FinalPaladin said:
nice moves.replace porygon-Zs ice beam with nasty plot as a lvl100 porygon-Z can get over 800 spattack from 1 nasty plot.i need a timid starmie as he is faster than palmers milotic
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Thanks =] My Porygon-Z's highest stat is already SpAttk but I'll definitely think about it, thanks for the advice =]
 
AAANNNDDDD teach breloom rockclimb not headbutt and theach magmortar focus blast instead of rockclimb
 
FinalPaladin said:
AAANNNDDDD teach breloom rockclimb not headbutt and theach magmortar focus blast instead of rockclimb
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I'm not too keen on having two fighting moves on Magmortar and Rock climb is less accurate than Headbutt too
 
yeh thats true.get rid of rocksmash then cus wons u hav completed starkmountain and the desert part u dont need it
 
FinalPaladin, please don't flood the topic with bad advice.

I advise you learn more about IVs and EVs first, and use Smogon's movesets and EV spreads and try to get a feel of your team. Try to conform to the standards (i.e. Smogon's movesets) the first time round, basically don't try to make your own movesets until you have a sufficient understanding of the game.

https://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/

I want to address your misconception that your team needs to have a move hitting every type in the game. I would advise you to think of individual pokemon, not types. You don't need a move to hit every type in the game but what is sufficient to deal with whatever pokemon that pokemon may encounter.

For example, putting Thunder Fang on Gliscor is a bad move, although it hits Water pokemon it is questionable as said Water pokemon already pose a major threat to you, and Thunder Fang wouldn't do much to the most used Waters, Gyarados, Vaporeon, Milotic and Suicune.
 
hey im not ~floodin this thread with bad advice if you liked thrashing people wich would u choose rock smash or focus blast,tell me wich ehhh~
thank you.
now is this a good moveset for starmie surf~icebeam~thunderbolt and psychic
 
Aquilae said:
FinalPaladin, please don't flood the topic with bad advice.

I advise you learn more about IVs and EVs first, and use Smogon's movesets and EV spreads and try to get a feel of your team. Try to conform to the standards (i.e. Smogon's movesets) the first time round, basically don't try to make your own movesets until you have a sufficient understanding of the game.

https://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/

I want to address your misconception that your team needs to have a move hitting every type in the game. I would advise you to think of individual pokemon, not types. You don't need a move to hit every type in the game but what is sufficient to deal with whatever pokemon that pokemon may encounter.

For example, putting Thunder Fang on Gliscor is a bad move, although it hits Water pokemon it is questionable as said Water pokemon already pose a major threat to you, and Thunder Fang wouldn't do much to the most used Waters, Gyarados, Vaporeon, Milotic and Suicune.
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But surely your Pokemon can encounter any other Pokemon type at all, and to have a wide variety of different type moves would mean that you're always ready and have at least one Pokemon with at least one move that's effective against it. At least that's what it seems like to me lol!

Someone once told me that half of my teams IVs/Evs were messed up and I should feed them berries to reduce them or start over again, but I think I've got a team with potential so I'm really trying to avoid doing that
 
Becky_x said:
Someone once told me that half of my teams IVs/Evs were messed up and I should feed them berries to reduce them or start over again, but I think I've got a team with potential so I'm really trying to avoid doing that
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I would like to clear this up.

If you dont breed for good ivs and get the appropriate evs, sadly you will loose no matter how good the movesets are.
 
You should aim for coverage on all types, yes that is important, but what I'm saying is that only choose moves that beat the stuff your pokemon can beat in the first place, otherwise its a waste of space.

Another thing to note is that you also have to think in terms of Base Power instead of just aiming for supereffective hits. For example, you shouldn't give Lucario Blaze Kick, as aside from Grass / Poisons (which are rare), Close Combat will always hit harder as it is a stronger move, 180 Base Power after STAB meaning it would do more than supereffective Blaze Kick, 170 Base Power.

I advise you read the stickied guides on IVs and EVs for a better understanding of the IV / EV system. Assuming you trained them ingame your pokemon's EVs should be sort of messed up, for lack of a better description, so the EV reducing berries allow you to start over.

The calculator didn't work, because:

Pokemon stats are determined by IVs, Base Stat and EVs.

That calculator is for calculating IVs, so it won't take into consideration the EVs gained. It is supposed to used the pokemon with 0 EVs in that stat.
 
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Dark_Azelf said:
I would like to clear this up.

If you dont breed for good ivs and get the appropriate evs, sadly you will loose no matter how good the movesets are.
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Really? I don't understand them properly like, how do I know which ones to work on and is there a number I need to get them to? Aren't they supposed to add up to a certain number or something? I tried a calculator once but it kept coming back with error because my Pokemons stats were too high o.O
 
Becky_x said:
Really? I don't understand them properly like, how do I know which ones to work on and is there a number I need to get them to? Aren't they supposed to add up to a certain number or something? I tried a calculator once but it kept coming back with error because my Pokemons stats were too high o.O
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Look in the compiled Strategy guides topic in this forum. It's stickied.
 
Okay so I think I'll keep the Pokemon I can't train anymore and try and EV train the other 3.

How do I know what role the Pokemon play so I know which EVs to work on? And I've got to get each stat to be 252?
 
No. You have a max of 510 EV's, so you can't get 252 in all of them. You need to pick which ones you're going to train. For example, Alakazam is an awesome special sweeper, but he's too frail to really care about investing in his defenses. So, give Zam 252 SPATK and SPD EV's, and the last 6 can go wherever you want. Or, for Infernape, a mixed sweeper, you don't have to go that route. Most Infernape usually carry 252 SPATK EV's to power up his special moves, 232 SPD EV's to outspeed base 105 speed Pokemon (Manectric, Mismagius), and 24 in ATK cause Close Combat's got 120 BP.
 
Fabian the Fastman said:
No. You have a max of 510 EV's, so you can't get 252 in all of them. You need to pick which ones you're going to train. For example, Alakazam is an awesome special sweeper, but he's too frail to really care about investing in his defenses. So, give Zam 252 SPATK and SPD EV's, and the last 6 can go wherever you want. Or, for Infernape, a mixed sweeper, you don't have to go that route. Most Infernape usually carry 252 SPATK EV's to power up his special moves, 232 SPD EV's to outspeed base 105 speed Pokemon (Manectric, Mismagius), and 24 in ATK cause Close Combat's got 120 BP.
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Right, well the 3 I've got left are

Magmortar
210/162/141/227/172/171

Breloom
126/155/101/75/72/92

Hitmonchan
75/67/62/38/73/60

Which two from each do you think I should work on?
 
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