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Myzou

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    Completely random, as I have no idea of how to make a working team out of the normal stuff, but as I absolutely love bug pokemon... was wondering, could someone possibly help me with a moveset/team that involves Butterfree, Beautifly, Venomoth, and Mothim, with the other 2 being bugs that could be helped/help the original 4? :S

    I know it's a tough/annoying thing, but I just love them XD
     

    sims796

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    Yeah, it was aimmed at Spinarak. Sorry if you got into that mess.

    Now, is this team compettitive? I think we can do that. If'n it is competitive, expect to lose a lot, especially with those pokes. But if you want an all bug team, obviously winning is not your prime goal. So i'll give it a whack. Gimme a sec to gather some info.
     

    ABYAY

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    a mono-bug theme team will fail extremely hard, especially against SR. If you want to try your gut at it, I suggest a Scarf lead Butterfree with Compoundeyes and Sleep Powder to start. Mothim can run a Choice Specs set, Venomoth can run either a Specs or just a regular attacking set, and Beautifly...I'm not sure in all honesty. (If you need sets, just message again in regard)

    For two additional bugs, I suggest something like Scizor (if for Diamond/Pearl, you might be less than influenced), or Forretress. Yanmega is also there, and heck, even Scyther for some pure physical attacking. Heracross is another good option, but note that any option leaves you open to fire attacks everywhere.

    I'd suggest using 4 bugs and 2 of anything else to support the team.
     

    Skip Shot

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    ABYAY said:
    any option leaves you open to fire attacks everywhere.
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    THere's 1 option that doesn't take SE from rock, but its not so great.

    Armaldo @ Life Orb
    Adamant Nature
    252 Atk/ 244 Spe/ 12 HP

    Rock Polish
    X-Scissor
    Stone Edge
    Earthquake

    I would consider that, although it pales in comparison to Scizor if this is Platifail team.

    I actually wouldn't use Beautifly. Instead, I would run the following mono-bug team:

    ScarfFree to sleep and spread status.
    Specs Mothin- I think the moveset is Air Slash/Bug Buzz/Psychic/HP Fire?
    LO Venomoth- set up and sweep.
    RP Armaldo- Physical sweeping
    RestTalk Hera- give you some special tanking(somewhat) and a status absorber.
    Foretress- to Help with mega SR weak.
     

    luke

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    Rock-types do not resist Rock-type attacks. Armaldo still takes 25% from Stealth Rock every time it switches in.
     

    Myzou

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    Sc4rfCh0mp said:
    THere's 1 option that doesn't take SE from rock, but its not so great.

    Armaldo @ Life Orb
    Adamant Nature
    252 Atk/ 244 Spe/ 12 HP

    Rock Polish
    X-Scissor
    Stone Edge
    Earthquake

    I would consider that, although it pales in comparison to Scizor if this is Platifail team.

    I actually wouldn't use Beautifly. Instead, I would run the following mono-bug team:

    ScarfFree to sleep and spread status.
    Specs Mothin- I think the moveset is Air Slash/Bug Buzz/Psychic/HP Fire?
    LO Venomoth- set up and sweep.
    RP Armaldo- Physical sweeping
    RestTalk Hera- give you some special tanking(somewhat) and a status absorber.
    Foretress- to Help with mega SR weak.
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    Thanks, I know Beautifly isn't the best thing ever, but I do want to use her... I'm weird like that. I have my competitive team, XD

    This would be a team I could use for UU, tbh. Hence why I didn't mention most of them :P I always wanted to make a UU team, but never got around to doing it :S

    Knew I forgot to mention something in my post... >_<

    I finally finished training my competitive team, and now I don't want to use it anymore XD Fighting the same old OU pokemon gets VERY VERY annoying. (If I have to one shot another heatran with my HP Ground yanmega once more, I'll scream~)
     

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    Britney Spears said:
    Rock-types do not resist Rock-type attacks. Armaldo still takes 25% from Stealth Rock every time it switches in.
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    Oops. I meant Fire type, but w/e.

    I'm very sad that no one wants to rate my team... :(

    I've heard of a new Mixape set going around, but haven't seen its actual moveset. Does anyone know what that set is?


     
    Dark Azelf

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    Sc4rfCh0mp said:
    Oops. I meant Fire type, but w/e.

    I'm very sad that no one wants to rate my team... :(

    I've heard of a new Mixape set going around, but haven't seen its actual moveset. Does anyone know what that set is?
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    Infernape (M) @ Life Orb
    Ability: Blaze
    EVs: 172 Atk/192 Spd/144 SAtk
    Naive nature (+Spd, -SDef)
    - Close Combat
    - Stone Edge
    - Grass Knot
    - Overheat / Fire Blast


    Drills its usual counters and checks. 2hkoing things like vappy with cc.

    After an Overheat or Fire Blast on the switch in, Stone Edge OHKO's offensive Gyarados and Mence and OHKO's bulkier versions with SR in play. (Even with intimidate).

    Thunderpunch is available if you want the OHKO on tentacruel and OHKO on Gyarados >> stone edge, but outside of that its pretty much outclassed by stone edge since stone edge 2hko's most tenta and Gyarados loses either way lol.
     

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    I am raising my cleffa right now with a Calm mood
    and I was thinking for the end when it is a cleffable

    Cleffabel @ Toxic Orb
    -Psychic
    -Calm Mind
    -Soft boiled
    -Ice Beam
     

    Linux

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    Sc4rfCh0mp said:
    Psychic gives you poop coverage in OU. Run T-Bolt>> it. What's its ability?
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    Magic Guard.
    That is why I chose Toxic Orb. I read that giving it poison will prevent it from taking other status ailments and with Magic Guard preventing the damage from being poisoned it is a good strategy.

    So
    T-Bolt
    Calm Mind
    Soft boiled
    Ice Beam.

    right now my clefa has charm and it seems very useful should I switch it with one of the final moves?
     

    Skip Shot

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    Linux said:
    Magic Guard.
    That is why I chose Toxic Orb. I read that giving it poison will prevent it from taking other status ailments and with Magic Guard preventing the damage from being poisoned it is a good strategy.

    So
    T-Bolt
    Calm Mind
    Soft boiled
    Ice Beam.

    right now my clefa has charm and it seems very useful should I switch it with one of the final moves?
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    Charm does have some use. You can either use it, Toxic, or Reflect>> Calm Mind. Unless you want Clefable to work as a special attacker, any of those 3 would be a good choice.

    Clefable has two things it can do- special sweep or special wall.

    Special Wall moves-
    Softboiled
    Toixc/Thunder Wave
    Seismic Toss
    Reflect/Charm/Light Screen

    Special sweeper-
    Calm Mind
    Softobiled
    Thunderbolt
    Ice Beam

    You can choose from either of these two, depending on the current IVs and EVs that you've put into Cleffa.
     

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    Ok thanks a lot this is really helpful.
    Just one thing is Thunderbolt as good as Charge Beam?
     

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    Well Thunderbolt has a higher Base Power meaning you can dish out more damage per shot, but Charge Beam can raise your Sp Atk. Clefable can take a few hits so Charge Beam could be good, unless you are using Calm Mind.
    If you are not using Calm Mind, then Charge Beam could be more beneficial.
     

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    Mmm okay I think I will play it safe with tbolt.
    Thanks a lot for all the input. I think I have a good
    direction now with my cleffa.

    **Sorry for this quick question
    but if I replace softboiled with moonlight doesn't that seem like a
    better move to you guys since moonlight recovers
    2/3 -> 1/2 -> 1/4 health pending on the weather
    whereas softboiled only does 1/2 of you max health.

    Or is softboiled the best bet?
     
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    Skip Shot

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    Linux said:
    Mmm okay I think I will play it safe with tbolt.
    Thanks a lot for all the input. I think I have a good
    direction now with my cleffa.

    **Sorry for this quick question
    but if I replace softboiled with moonlight doesn't that seem like a
    better move to you guys since moonlight recovers
    2/3 -> 1/2 -> 1/4 health pending on the weather
    whereas softboiled only does 1/2 of you max health.

    Or is softboiled the best bet?
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    Softboiled is the obvious better option. with weather running around alot, your not gonna get more than 25% recovery most of the time. Softboiled is a much more viable option.
     

    Myzou

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    Decided on my bugs:


    Drapion
    Armaldo
    Mothim
    Venomoth
    Shuckle
    Butterfree

    However, based on their speed stats, I'm debating if I should make it a trick room team... most of them have ungodly horrible speed XD But that would entail removing one bug type >_< lol

    Anyways, for this team, I'm thinking a support Butterfree with Tailwind might be better than the normal double status U-Turner, what do you guys think?
     

    SkyPioneer

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    That's debatable. Tailwind Butterfree would be ok, but you can probably get just one up before it's out. Then you only have two turns to use the extra speed. Otherwise, if you switch, one turn.
    Dual status I'd go for, even though it'd be knocked out after inducing one stat effect, it still does it's job better than TW.
     
    Dark Azelf

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    F-F-Franklin said:
    anyone got a good SpecsBliss set?
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    What in the blue hell lol

    Blissey@Choice Specs
    252 DEF / 252 SP.ATT / 6 Speed
    Modest Nature
    - Thunderbolt
    - Fire Blast
    - Ice Beam
    - Focus Blast / Hidden Power Flying


    yeah....


    Last slot is for t-tar and machamp, hera and what not respectively
     
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