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Blueberry said:
Yes, it's a "weaker" version of ScarfGar. However, people expect it to be used for passing bulky subs, so they send out a taunter or a hazer. Then, you hit them with Hypnosis to eliminate the counter. Then you can switch it in on an Earthquake or a Fighting-type move and wreak havoc on the switch-in.
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Think Hidden power Fighting to hit Weavile and T-tar could be of some use or Explosion, a quick Explosion never hurts ? For sp.walls and such..

Depends what tier your using it for aswell.
 
I do believe I asked for help on my Wigglytuff "RIGHT NAOW!", so, if you can, you know...RIGHT NAOW!

I see her amazing HP which is disabled by her craptasic defenses, but I'd like to give her & her amazing support movepool a go.
 
sims796 said:
WIGGLYTUFF!

Wigglytuff@Leftovers/Choice Band
Nature:Calm
Reflect
Wish
Seismec Toss/Hyper Voice
Thunder Wave/Toxic/Gravity/Ice Beam
EV:252 HP/???

Need EV help. RIGHT NAOW!

CB WIGGLYTUFF KICKS ARSE!
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Mini-CBBliss, eh? Gotta love that idea. D: 252 HP / 252 ATK / 4 SPE 4 Speed because there's nowhere else to put it on the CB Set. OR 252 HP / 252 SpD / 6 SpA.
 
Can't believe I gotta explain the joke, but CB was a joke. Doesn't even have a real physical move.

Anywho, I need help on the serious support WishTuff.
 
Go gimmicky set! 252HP/252Def and switch in on every physical attack coming to abuse cute charm :P
Ok but seriously, Lefties>CB, you dont wanna get locked into wish even if he's gonna be a supporter. Toss over hyper voice for dependability and T-wave for the last slot. Your best bet would probably be 252HP/52Def/204SpDef, it looks like a mini-bliss really

EDIT: Thank god you were joking :P
 
The fact that more than one person fell for that is surprising. More like scary.

Anywhoo, the EV spread seems fine, I'll try it. Thanks.
 
Ah. Thought is was the other way around.

Which is better, walling with Light Screen & Sassy, or walling with Reflect?
 
Does anyone have an idea of the last 2 pokemon I should have in my team. So far I have...

Torterra @ life orb
wood hammer
earthquake
stone edge
leaf storm

Lantern @ leftovers
thunder
surf
brine
blizzard

Salamence
earthquake
dragon claw
fire blast
fly

Dusknoir @ spell tag
Shadow ball
will-o-wisp
psychic
ice beam

Also any other recomendations will be appreciated much.
 
Ok. I'll make what I said a bit clearer. In OU. My bad.

And there are plenty of hard hitting SP.Sweepers at that. Manectric, Raichu, Ninetales...the list goes on.
 
sims796 said:
Ok. I'll make what I said a bit clearer. In OU. My bad.

And there are plenty of hard hitting SP.Sweepers at that. Manectric, Raichu, Ninetales...the list goes on.
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Raichu carries Focus Blast, though. ~ Itachi 2008 ~
 
I swear to God, next time someone types in colors too bright to see, I'm reporting.

Anyway, that doesn't mean a damn. Primape or any other UU carries fighting moves, making even Reflect dangerous. However, Wigglytuff doesn't take as much damage from Focus Blast as she does from Close Combat/Hi Jump Kick/Brick Break (making the screens moot, but whatever), etc. That "point" you made really didn't prove much, and dind't make much sense, since it was off the disscusion a bit.

Now I still didn't get a good answer from somebody.
 
I'll try. I would honestly make Wigglytuff a wall focused on one defense ONLY, and ignore the other one totally. Otherwise it will get owned. In that regard, I personally think it fits better in the special walling mold. It resists Gengar's STAB attack and has Thick Fat if I remember correctly. (I might be wrong though.)

Either way, that allows Heatran to actually be walled with some Light Screen action and Ice Beams will do nothing. Wigglytuff can't really wall physical attackers that well anyways with no useful resistances or immunities on that side of things and its weakness to fighting. When walling special attackers, Wiggly can put aside its weaknesses much more effectively in my opinion. so I would run a special wall set all the way with Light Screen.
 
Anti-Pop said:
I'll try. I would honestly make Wigglytuff a wall focused on one defense ONLY, and ignore the other one totally. Otherwise it will get owned. In that regard, I personally think it fits better in the special walling mold. It resists Gengar's STAB attack and has Thick Fat if I remember correctly. (I might be wrong though.)

Either way, that allows Heatran to actually be walled with some Light Screen action and Ice Beams will do nothing. Wigglytuff can't really wall physical attackers that well anyways with no useful resistances or immunities on that side of things and its weakness to fighting. When walling special attackers, Wiggly can put aside its weaknesses much more effectively in my opinion. so I would run a special wall set all the way with Light Screen.
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Meh. Wigglytuff is a under tier Snorlax, now that I think about it. Snorlax does the job way better, and has Crunch to boot. And, if EV'd correctly, can take Focus Blasts better.
 
Unfortunately, no Thick Fat. Cute Charm. If that's not a kick in the croch, I don't know what is.

EDIT: What the hell does Snorlax have to do with what I'm asking for in Wigglytuff?
 
sims796 said:
Unfortunately, no Thick Fat. Cute Charm. If that's not a kick in the croch, I don't know what is.

EDIT: What the hell does Snorlax have to do with what I'm asking for in Wigglytuff?
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I was giving my reasoning on why Snorlax just serves Wigglytuff's role better.
 
Itachi 2008 said:
I was giving my reasoning on why Snorlax just serves Wigglytuff's role better.
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Well that's obvious, but no matter what you have Wigglytuff do, something will do it better, so that's irrelevant. Otherwise every team would have Blissey because it is the best special wall in the game. And with that I don't think your post makes much sense.

EDIT: Wigglytuff has 5 base SDef points more than in Def if that means anything.
 
And to top Anti off, when I ask for Tuff, I want Tuff. I don't care much for Lax, or I would have asked for him. Anti said everything else I wanted too.
 
Just for kicks

Frosslass@Choice Band
Jolly Nature
252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP
- Ice Fang
- Crunch
- Wake Up Slap
- Return / Ice Shard

Wake up slap

Defender HP: 714
Damage: 283 - 333
Damage: 39.64% - 46.64%


vs max hp / max def bold blissey, not bad eh,a 3hko ?



But seriously

Frosslass@leftovers
252 SP.ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP
Timid Nature
- Spikes
- Thunderwave / Destiny Bond / Shadow Ball
- ice Beam
- Thunderbolt

What do you think for the second slot, which would be more beneficial ?



I have another question, what is the point in the move Frustration ? its exactly the same as frikkin Return, hi my name is nintendo/game freak, and im just going to make a complete duplicate/ Clone of another tm to take up space on the tm list =/ i mean really lol
 
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