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Consider Growth and Encore over Wish and Thunder Wave. They are all very useful moves, although Growth can boost your SAtk (Charge Beam only has 63% chance, factoring in accuracy).
Encore means you can switch in on non-damaging moves on slower opponents and Encore them. Forcing them to switch out. This gives you a chance to set up. Good, though.
 
Archer said:
Consider Growth and Encore over Wish and Thunder Wave. They are all very useful moves, although Growth can boost your SAtk (Charge Beam only has 63% chance, factoring in accuracy).
Encore means you can switch in on non-damaging moves on slower opponents and Encore them. Forcing them to switch out. This gives you a chance to set up. Good, though.
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You have to quote what your talking about. Half this page is on Leafeon.
 
Actually, both X-scissor and Iron Tail make goos secondery attacks on Leafeon. It's better than nothing...
 
Stop. It won't even work in UU. X-Scissor is fine in UU, unless you really fear Celebii, but everything that Iron Tail hits, Leaf Blade hits harder. In OU, no X-Scizzor. It offers no additional coverage, and he can't really sweep. Leaf blade hits Psychics hard enough,and between Ice Beam on Cressy, & Psychic on Celebii (& being slower) it's useless in OU.

Unless he's UU sweeping, he doesn't need any secondary attacks.
 
Also pretty bad, no offense.
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the item or the moveset
granted the item is bad give it life orb or any other effective item
moveset looks ok double edge has recoil..thats Y return is preffered
 
Both. If you can't get Double Edge, Return may be a sound choice, but for a neutral attack, Double Edge may be more useful.

Both are bad for OU play, however.
 
I'll use Drifblim for Hypnosis, so should I use CM on Spritomb?
 
What about a hippowdon choice bander?

Adamant@ choice band 252 HP / 124 Atk / 132 Def

Earthquake
Ice fang/stone edge
Thunder fang
crunch/fire fang/slack off


For gliscor i would use:

Impish@ leftovers 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def

EQ
Roost
Ice fang/aerial ace
Stealth rock/knock off/taunt
 
Hippowdon makes an excellent wall, but if you want one that resists Ice than I suggest Forretress

Forretress@Leftovers
Relaxed Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Atk
-Gyro Ball
-Rapid Spin
-Spikes/Toxic Spikes/Stealth Rock
-Rest/Earthquake/Explosion

However if you do want to use Hippowdon.

Hippowdon@Leftovers
Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Atk or 252 HP, 16 Atk, 152 Def, 88 Sp Def
-Earthquake
-Ice Fang
-Stealth Rock/Roar
-Slack Off

The Sp Def EVs allow it to survive HP Ice flying around from Electric types (if they decide to stay in against the sand hippo). That being said, most HP Ice's will fail against the hippo with those EVs
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Thanks a lot for the help Angelic Diablo, so what would you prefer both sound like two great options I can't really decided X3
 
Need some good advice on which moves for Dustox and all else involved with him, thanks! :)
 
JesseRocket said:
Need some good advice on which moves for Dustox and all else involved with him, thanks! :)
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Frankly, Jesse, in-game you could use any moveset you feel comfortable with. This thread is mainly geared towards competitive movesets. If you just started the game, you really don't need to worry about movesets and such, as long as you train. You could just go to Dustox's wiki page for everything involved with him. :>
 
Thank you BB! <3 I was just curious as to what would be the best moves to keep and which to ditch to get the most out of Dustox in the D/P games :)
 
Lucario is an okay special sweeper. SpecsLuke is cool:

Lucario @ Choice Specs
Modest
252 SpA/252 Spe/6 HP
Aura Sphere/Focus Blast
Vacuum Wave
Dark Pulse/Shadow Ball
Dragon Pulse/HP Ice

2HKO's standard Bliss with Focus Blast, which is awesome. Bold Blissey (252 HP/252 Def/6 SpD) gets 2HKO'd by Aura Sphere. It's a matter of accuracy vs. power. Focus Blast is Base 180, whereas Aura Sphere is Base 135.

Gengar has too many sets, but I'll list my personal favorite; Choice Scarf revenge killer:

Gengar @ Choice Scarf
Timid
252 SpA/252 Spe/6 HP
Shadow Ball
HP Ice
Focus Blast
Thunderbolt

Timid is reccomended to outspeed Deoxys-e, even if it has Max Speed. It doesn't really hit hard, but it's still amazing at revenge killing.
 
No problem ^_^

Lucario is a good special sweeper, just that he's overshadowed by his other set; Swords Dance sweeper.

A really good sweeper that's slightly underrated would be Mismagius. I know Anti would kill me if I did smother it with positive attatchments, but it is actually quite good:

Mismagius @ Leftovers
Timid
108 HP/164 SpA/238 Spe
Shadow Ball
HP Fighting
Calm Mind
Substitute

Blissey won't be beating this Special Sweeper. Of course, there are others. Another personal favorite is Togekiss:

Togekiss @ Leftovers/Lum Berry/Life Orb
Modest
252 HP/154 SpA/104 Spe
Air Slash
Nasty Plot
Aura Sphere
Roost

Blissey can't stall this either without T-Wave or more preferably Toxic. The safest counter for this is Zapdos; resisting both STABs.
 
I'm trying to decide, but I just can't. What's better on Weavile Ice Punch or Ice Shard?
 
Ice Shard suits 'Vile better as a sheer revenge killer. Ice Punch has it's uses in some cases. Sadly, even after taking STAB in account, Ice Shard is still weaker than unSTAB'd Ice Punch. As a pure sweeper, Ice Punch is generally superior. Still, Weavile makes a pretty mediocre sweeper, but an excellent revenge killer.

In short, I'd go Ice Shard.
 
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