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You can use a kangaskhan subpuncher instead of miltank.

Kangaskhan@ leftovers
-Skrappy
-adamant
Substitute
focus punch
sucker punch
Return
 
Ice Punch >> Ice Shard, for a main reason. Yache Berry Garchomp has become the standard, far superior to ScarfChomp. Ice Punch OHKO's through Yache Berry, and Weavile outspeeds Garchomp commonly, making it a good revenge killer to it.

~T_S

Ice Shard suits 'Vile better as a sheer revenge killer. Ice Punch has it's uses in some cases. Sadly, even after taking STAB in account, Ice Shard is still weaker than unSTAB'd Ice Punch. As a pure sweeper, Ice Punch is generally superior. Still, Weavile makes a pretty mediocre sweeper, but an excellent revenge killer.

In short, I'd go Ice Shard.

Well Ok, both obviously have their uses, but I was going for this moveset:

Choice Band
-Pursuit
-Brick Break
-Ice Shard/Ice Punch
-Night Slash

Of course Night Slash is preferable with the strongest STAB Dark move, but what if I changed it to:

Choice Band
-Pursuit
-Brick Break
-Ice Shard
-Ice Punch

and got rid of night slash?
 
Well Ok, both obviously have their uses, but I was going for this moveset:

Choice Band
-Pursuit
-Brick Break
-Ice Shard/Ice Punch
-Night Slash

Of course Night Slash is preferable with the strongest STAB Dark move, but what if I changed it to:

Choice Band
-Pursuit
-Brick Break
-Ice Shard
-Ice Punch

and got rid of night slash?

Nah, or bulky psychic's like Cress wall you, if they dont switch

-Pursuit
-Brick Break
-Ice Shard /-Ice Punch
-Night Slash

Pretty much what you want, its up to you which move you choose Punch or shard that would benefit your team more.

Although i have preference for Shard as it bypasses speed boosts on Yanmega, and Ninjask and lets you revenge dragon dancers (aka nite and mence).
 
Well Ok, both obviously have their uses, but I was going for this moveset:

Choice Band
-Pursuit
-Brick Break
-Ice Shard/Ice Punch
-Night Slash

Of course Night Slash is preferable with the strongest STAB Dark move, but what if I changed it to:

Choice Band
-Pursuit
-Brick Break
-Ice Shard
-Ice Punch

and got rid of night slash?




How about this moveset?
Pursuit
Ice punch/ice shard
Brick break
Night slash/aerial ace

and for evs: 40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 Speed
 
Mismagius @ Leftovers
Timid
108 HP/164 SpA/238 Spe
Shadow Ball
HP Fighting
Calm Mind
Substitute

Blissey won't be beating this Special Sweeper. Of course, there are others. Another personal favorite is Togekiss:

Togekiss @ Leftovers/Lum Berry/Life Orb
Modest
252 HP/154 SpA/104 Spe
Air Slash
Nasty Plot
Aura Sphere
Roost

Thanks once more for all your help Vance!^_^ Just a question what is a good stratagey for mismaguis, and meh I never found togekiss to useful^^;

Um does this work at all as a good team? edit all you want or add and remove some I would really appreciate any assistance!

Azelf
moves stealth rock/taunt/psychic/explosion
Ev 4 atk/252 sp atk/252 speed
nature naive
item ?

Sceptile
moves endure/endeavor/quick atk/leaf storm
Ev 4 def/252 sp atk/252 speed
nature modest
item ?

hippowdon
moves ice fang/earthquake/stealth rock/slack off
Ev 252 HP/16 Atk/152 Def/88 speed
nature impish
item leftovers

Weavile
Moves ice punch/pursuit/brick break/night slash
Ev 40 hp/252 atk/216 speed
nature jolly
item expert belt

Blissy
moves seismoc toss/ice beam/Aromatherapy/softboiled
Ev 252 hp/252 def/4 sp def
nature bold
item leftovers

Garchomp
moves /swords dance/fire fang/dragon claw/earthquake
Ev 4 hp/252 atk/252 speed
nature jolly
item life orb (maybe yache berry?)

I was thinking of changing garchomp to salamence, but I'll like to get any advice on this including the rest of my team from anyone^_^
 
This is the porygon-Z i use, but im not too sure on how its going. could i get any improvements?


Porygon Z @ Life Orb
Download
Modest
252 Sp Atk, 252 HP, 4 Sp Def
-Tri Attack
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Dark Pulse
 
Drifblim:
~With 31 HP IVs, can I just use no HP EVs and pass those to defense?
~Hypnosis, Thunderbolt, Shadow Ball and...
~Is a good abuse of Unburden a good idea?
 
The one I found most useful is:

Porygon-Z @ Choice Scarf
Modest Nature
EVs: 252 Sp. Atk/252 Speed/6 HP
Trait: Adaptability

- Tri-Attack
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Dark Pulse

I used this a while back, it may not be as effective in today's game.
 
Thanks once more for all your help Vance!^_^ Just a question what is a good stratagey for mismaguis, and meh I never found togekiss to useful^^;

Um does this work at all as a good team? edit all you want or add and remove some I would really appreciate any assistance!

Azelf
moves stealth rock/taunt/psychic/explosion
Ev 4 atk/252 sp atk/252 speed
nature naive
item ?

Sceptile
moves endure/endeavor/quick atk/leaf storm
Ev 4 def/252 sp atk/252 speed
nature modest
item ?

hippowdon
moves ice fang/earthquake/stealth rock/slack off
Ev 252 HP/16 Atk/152 Def/88 speed
nature impish
item leftovers

Weavile
Moves ice punch/pursuit/brick break/night slash
Ev 40 hp/252 atk/216 speed
nature jolly
item expert belt

Blissy
moves seismoc toss/ice beam/Aromatherapy/softboiled
Ev 252 hp/252 def/4 sp def
nature bold
item leftovers

Garchomp
moves /swords dance/fire fang/dragon claw/earthquake
Ev 4 hp/252 atk/252 speed
nature jolly
item life orb (maybe yache berry?)

I was thinking of changing garchomp to salamence, but I'll like to get any advice on this including the rest of my team from anyone^_^


I find Mismagius to ONLY be useful in late game. Otherwise, phazers or physical attacks will ruin your fun. Bring it in on Blissey, because she will never break your Sub after a CM (or prior to that really) Seismic Toss won't work. She basically becomes set up fodder.
 
How about this moveset?
Pursuit
Ice punch/ice shard
Brick break
Night slash/aerial ace

and for evs: 40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 Speed

That's pretty much the exact same moveset that I proposed except with the added option of Aerial Ace which I'm not even considering because aside from countering Heracross, it really has no purpose and Night Slash is just a lot more important.

Both punch and Shard are incredibly viable which is why I'm having such a hard time deciding. Shard destroys DD Mence and Nite, will still do about 25% to a Gyarados that has picked up DD, and it OHKOs scarfchomp. It also receives the bonus of being the only priority move on my team.
Punch however is Weaviles strongest STAB move (Barring Dark Pulse) and OHKOs a Yachechomp.
 
Go for Shard. Those pros you gave for Shard just outweights the pros you gave for punch.
 
Alright, I'm making a theme Sunny Day team, and I don't want to reveal it until the last day of my summer vacation. However, I want it to be good. The current lineup is this:

Moltres @ Heat Rock
Modest
216 HP/252 Spe/42 SpA
Fire Blast
Sunny Day
Toxic
Roost

Heatran @ Choice Specs
Modest
42 HP/252 SpA/216 Spe
Fire Blast
Dragon Pulse
Earth Power
Explosion

Exeggutor @ Leftovers
Modest
114 HP/216 Spe/180 SpA
Wish
Sunny Day
Grass Knot
Sleep Powder

Cresselia @ Leftovers
Bold
252 HP/108 Def/150 SpD
Moonlight
Charge Beam
Ice Beam
Thunder Wave

Garchomp @ Choice Scarf
Adamant
252 Att/252 Spe/6 HP
Outrage
Dragon Claw
Earthquake
Fire Blast

Shaymin @ Leftovers
Modest
216 HP/42 Def/252 SpA
Seed Flare
Rest
HP Fire
Aromatherapy


Is there any way to fix Typhlosion here? The only three I really want to keep is Garchomp, Heatran, and Moltres. That's it.
 
hey would the best moveset for empoleon be
ice beam
surf/hydro pump
drillpeck/aerial ace(preferably drill peck)
flashcannon

i thought that that was quite a good 1
 
No, that's a bad moveset; defensively or offensively.

Empoleon @ Petaya Berry
Modest
28 HP/12 Def/252 SpA/216 Spe
Hydro Pump
Substitute
Ice Beam
Agility
 
That's pretty much the exact same moveset that I proposed except with the added option of Aerial Ace which I'm not even considering because aside from countering Heracross, it really has no purpose and Night Slash is just a lot more important.

Both punch and Shard are incredibly viable which is why I'm having such a hard time deciding. Shard destroys DD Mence and Nite, will still do about 25% to a Gyarados that has picked up DD, and it OHKOs scarfchomp. It also receives the bonus of being the only priority move on my team.
Punch however is Weaviles strongest STAB move (Barring Dark Pulse) and OHKOs a Yachechomp.

Maybe you can have both punch and shard and remove pursuit...
you already have night slash so i think pursuit isnt very important, you need some good prediction to know if the pokemon will switch out.
Aerial ace would be good for fighting types in general, but brick break is more usefull, for rock and steel types, and for OHKO blissey

The moveset would be the following one:

Ice punch
Ice shard
brick break
Night slash
What do you think?
 
Do you know what Pursuit does? It lets Weavile catch foes trying to switch out. That's what makes Weavile even remotely usable (aside from Ice Shard)

Weavile @ Choice Band
Jolly
42 HP/252 Att/216 Spe
Ice Shard
Pursuit
Brick Break
Night Slash/Ice Punch

Please.
 
definatly teach weavile aerial ace to deal with fighting types and givit choice band and teach it U-turn
 
Weavile @ Choice Band
Jolly
42 HP/252 Att/216 Spe
Ice Shard
Pursuit
Brick Break
Night Slash/Ice Punch

Please.

Probably the foe will predict that you are going to use pursuit and change to a pokemon resistent to dark moves, so you can use ice punch instead, besides you are using choice band so you wont be able to use pursuit if you used an other move before.
But anyway that moveset is great.
 
definatly teach weavile aerial ace to deal with fighting types and givit choice band and teach it U-turn

No, Aerial Ace sucks ass really. It does lol damage to everything. It has no coverage, and does what? 22% to standard Machamp? It can't even OHKO Infernape.

@ Bold

Weavile doesn't even learn U-Turn...So yeah, not a smart post at all.
 
oh sorry.i looked at a random website and it told me that.woohoo i beat the tower tycoon todaywith

Electivire...................... Magmortar .......and ..........lapras
thunder punch............. flame thrower ......................surf
ice punch.................... focus blast ..................hydro pump
earth quake............. pysychic.......................... ice beam
crosschop ................solarbeam....................... thunder

pretty impressive hey
 
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