so many noobs

[Ichida]

*Brandishes a well-sharpened partizan.* It is when I'm involved.

 

[NekoRobin]

Still, like everyone can use ubers..
I mean..Lots of people beat the damn game.

 

[Toothache]

Ubers aren't the be-all and end-all of Pokemon battles. With the right team, they can be beaten quite easily. Heracross is a prime example of a non-uber that can take down a lot of ubers, with the common Psychic type dominating the uber metagame. After a Salac Berry, Megahorn + Swarm can rip through most ubers, Reversal's great for a low-health Heracross on other non-Psychics like Kyogre/Groudon (Darkrai doesn't like Reversal much either).

 

[Smarties-chan]

Ubers aren't the be-all and end-all of Pokemon battles. With the right team, they can be beaten quite easily. Heracross is a prime example of a non-uber that can take down a lot of ubers, with the common Psychic type dominating the uber metagame. After a Salac Berry, Megahorn + Swarm can rip through most ubers, Reversal's great for a low-health Heracross on other non-Psychics like Kyogre/Groudon (Darkrai doesn't like Reversal much either).

Except no one uses Salac Berry Heracross anymore when there's Choice Scarf for us to abuse now and Close Combat is far more useful than Reversal because Heracross will have to have taken a pretty bad beating before Reversal gets strong enough to be more useful than Close Combat. I agree, though, Heracross is one of the best uber counters in the game, but it gets outrun by Kyogre (and trust me, Choice Scarf Kyogre is one of the most feared ubers and is therefore quite common) and Giratina just lols at it. Mewtwo can switch in on Close Combat and scare Heracross away while Ho-oh resists both its STAB moves and can safely switch in on everything except Stoned Edge or Rock Slide. So yeah, even though Heracross beats quite a lot of ubers, it also has many uber counters. Unless the team is specifically designed to take on ubers, a well trained OU team can only do decently against a well trained uber team.

 

[Jimmyray]

Actually Salac Berry on Porygon-Z is pretty good rather than a Choice Scarf. Just thought I'd say that while people are talking about Salac Berries...

 

[Znale]

a. Someone who isn't a lazy, dependent, immature n00b.
b. I've never lost to an uber user. They're lazy and dependent and they don't know sh*t about how to train Pokemon.
c. As if we give a flying f*ck if anyone thinks we're cool. We're competitors. We're here to win, and if someone like you can't appreciate that, then leave.
d. There is an element of sportsmanship in Pokemon. Any game has ettiquette to it, and this is how we play this game. Learn to play or leave. That's the reality.

Training Ubers is the same as training regular Pokemon. Unless you're presupposedly just continiously losing to them, then probably you should show us all your will to compete and train Pokemon good enough to beat them. Beating them is hard, but not even close to impossible. I'm rather sceptical against your claim of not losing to ubers, although it's possible. You call people immature when they use ubers, why? They are good but not close to some Ancient Sacred Beasts created by the Gods many millenia ago. That's how you seem to classify them.

 

[Always and Never]

Training Ubers is the same as training regular Pokemon. Unless you're presupposedly just continiously losing to them, then probably you should show us all your will to compete and train Pokemon good enough to beat them. Beating them is hard, but not even close to impossible. I'm rather sceptical against your claim of not losing to ubers, although it's possible. You call people immature when they use ubers, why? They are good but not close to some Ancient Sacred Beasts created by the Gods many millenia ago. That's how you seem to classify them.

I'm sorry, but I didn't understand a word you just said. The main point of this thread is... "Ubers have their own tier, when that tier mixes in with the other tiers, pokemon isn't fair anymore."

And it is true.

 

[Ichida]

I choose not to face ubers because that's how I play. The competitive scene is for OU Pokemon, that's where most of the better trainers play, and that's where I'm staying. As for being able to defeat ubers... *shakes fist* I still remember barely overcoming that hacked Regigigas, who didn't have Slow Start and was spamming Sacred Fire on me. And that was several teams ago, so I know I can take out ubers.

 

[ryuu yomi]

Ubers aren't the be-all and end-all of Pokemon With the right team, they can be beaten

 

[Bishopk]

Ubers aren't the be-all and end-all of Pokemon With the right team, they can be beaten

Funny, I've heard that somewhere before.

And that was several teams ago, so I know I can take out ubers.

 

[Znale]

I'm sorry, but I didn't understand a word you just said. The main point of this thread is... "Ubers have their own tier, when that tier mixes in with the other tiers, pokemon isn't fair anymore."

And it is true.

Yes, they are called uber for a reason, that I have to admit. But I do not understand why you guys call people immature and lazy when they use ubers.
They're just a bunch of coding inside a game cartridge, nothing to get serious about. And 40% of the uber users do not use ubers because of the strategical matter but because of the "coolness". I'm talking about kids around 8-years old.

 

[sims796]

EXACTLY! That's my point right there. And thats why this thread was created, I think. To poke light fun at them.

 

[Bishopk]

Yes, they are called uber for a reason, that I have to admit. But I do not understand why you guys call people immature and lazy when they use ubers.

Simple: Silly eight year olds make us (me, at least) frustrated when they don't understand that ubers aren't a crutch, they're only a tool.

They're just a bunch of coding inside a game cartridge, nothing to get serious about.

That's true, but we know so much about what works and what doesn't, we want to share our knowledge with the world. And, as I pointed out above, ubers are used with no strategy when a person says, "im so cule, i got r4q4za s0z i pwnx ur 4ever"

And 40% of the uber users do not use ubers because of the strategical matter but because of the "coolness". I'm talking about kids around 8-years old.

Yeah, ubers are cool. And strong. Don't use them as a crutch.

 

[sims796]

Oh come, I can't believe you said that. This game is aimmed towards kids. One every commercial, there are only kids playing it, not adults. I am no way saying that a 40 year old mancan't enjoy the game, no way. But you can't go about saying that kids must "understand" the game theway we do. My cousin uses Mewtwo, the three birds (their not ubers, I know) and his pride Charizard, with these moves:

Fly
Stregnth
Aerial Ace
Dragon Claw

He is no threat whatsoever, yet he thinks its the best. Granted, he doesn't say that to me, but still. Do I get mad? Do I say "OMG, you didn't even EV train, noob!" No, I smack him down in a match.

I would love the world to play like we do. But we have to remember that we are playing a game aimmed towards them, and while there is nothing wrong with adults playing it, we certainly can't critize them for not playing the game our way.

 

[Znale]

Oh come, I can't believe you said that. This game is aimmed towards kids. One every commercial, there are only kids playing it, not adults. I am no way saying that a 40 year old mancan't enjoy the game, no way. But you can't go about saying that kids must "understand" the game theway we do. My cousin uses Mewtwo, the three birds (their not ubers, I know) and his pride Charizard, with these moves:

Fly
Stregnth
Aerial Ace
Dragon Claw

He is no threat whatsoever, yet he thinks its the best. Granted, he doesn't say that to me, but still. Do I get mad? Do I say "OMG, you didn't even EV train, noob!" No, I smack him down in a match.

I would love the world to play like we do. But we have to remember that we are playing a game aimmed towards them, and while there is nothing wrong with adults playing it, we certainly can't critize them for not playing the game our way.

You should see my Charizard's moves in Pokemon Blue...

Anyway, I've seen a funny picture in a Finnish Pokemon-magazine, where a man around 45 years old played the TCG. It's the anime that ruined the reputation of Pokemon among teenagers. Just like Smarties-chan said in school today: "Just because you liked Pokemon when you were young, doesn't mean it sucks. You liked Harry Potter when you were young, didn't you. Does that mean it sucks?"

 

[sims796]

True enough. A grown man should not be disturbed to play the DS in the bus, telling his Nintendog to "Sit!".

 

[Toothache]

BTW, by the time PBR is released in Europe and Australia, there'll be a new influx of noobs from this continent playing. You got a few months to prepare, most of the rest should have died off or given up by this point.

 

[The Real AAA]

Anyway, I've seen a funny picture in a Finnish Pokemon-magazine, where a man around 45 years old played the TCG. It's the anime that ruined the reputation of Pokemon among teenagers. Just like Smarties-chan said in school today: "Just because you liked Pokemon when you were young, doesn't mean it sucks. You liked Harry Potter when you were young, didn't you. Does that mean it sucks?"

i wish I had friends from school that are here in the PC^:(

and Toothache what do you meant by that?
do you mean there r going to be more noobs!

 

[Toothache]

Yeah exactly. Although, that won't happen until December, so you have time to prepare.

 

[Ichida]

So now that we've successfully debunked the children's theme to the games, let me re-establush that this is a game, this is competition, and serious players like me like to take it seriously. This game is an exhibition of our resourcefulness, our knowledge, our strategy, and our luck.

And 40% of the uber users do not use ubers because of the strategical matter but because of the "coolness". I'm talking about kids around 8-years old.

We call them n00bs. They are to be chortled at when out of earshot, and given a sound thrashing in the game, then another chortling.

True enough. A grown man should not be disturbed to play the DS in the bus, telling his Nintendog to "Sit!".

Even though that is quite an eyebrow raiser...