Tales of Namco ★ Club~

[U.Flame]

You can't join if you've seen the Gameboy Advance version of Phantasia! Playstation version only!

Nah anyone can join as far as I know. Still, try to get the translated Playstation version of Phantasia, it makes the Gameboy Advance version look like crap.

 

[PokéSwimmer]

I'd like to join this club ^_^
I used to be really into the Tales Series back in the GCN/PS2 era. I also was (well, technically still am) a member of the Tales Forums, but I went inactive back in 2006.

Here is a list of the games that I have played:
-Tales of Phantasia (A translated version of the original SNES one, it was awesome)

-Tales of Symphonia (This game first got me into the series. It was my second favorite behind Abyss)

-Tales of the Legendia (Great storyline, kinda meh gameplay, I still have to finish it X_X)

-Tales of the World Narikiri Dungeon 3 (I actually imported this game, it was well worth it and surprisingly easy to play even without understanding Japanese)

-Tales of Phantasia (The GBA version, which sucked. I never got around to finishing it)

-Tales of the Abyss (By far my favorite game in the series)

-Tales of Sypmphonia: Dawn of the New World (I like to pretend this one never happened. I did play it all the way though though.)

 

[Miss Doronjo]

Eh, I dunno; I feel I should give Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World another chance. :B

I added everyone in, BTW. :)
Welcome!

 

[mishy.]

I gave Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World several chances. Everytime I did I loved the original cast more and I ended up hating Emil and Marta a little bit more each time. xD; Decus and Alice got more love though! As for Ricther I basically didn't like him from the beginning.

 

[Cherrim]

I played the first three chapters three times before I finally sat down with my brother, determined to make it all the way through. x_x;

I will probably NEVER play it again though. Only thing I liked were the voiced skits, pretty much, and I can get that with Symphonia PS2 sooo my desire to play is pretty shot. XD;

 

[thedestinedblade]

I've never actually finished it. I believe I got somewhere near the end before I just stopped playing. I eventually sold it... lol. Maybe the game does receive some unwarranted hate, but can you really blame them?

 

[ソラ]

I'm so Happy. I beat Tales of the Abyss yesterday. I cried x3, It was such a beautiful game *^* hahaha. I am going to pick up the 3D version, so I can officially play Abyss on the go! Also in 13 days Xillia will be release in Japan, I'mma pick that up, IMO it looks promising :).

 

[U.Flame]

I still don't know who survived at the end of Abyss. At first I thought it was Luke and Asch in one body, then I did a sidequest involving Jade saying something about when a replica dies, the original takes it's body. Or was it the other way around? I don't know, and it's always frustrating thinking about it. It's a beautiful ending but, who was the person in the end?

 

[Cherrim]

Don't forget spoilers guys. I know Abyss is like a million years old now but since it's getting re-released, there may still be people who want to pick it up and don't know the story yet! :x

As for the ending:

Spoiler:

If you do all the Contamination Effect sidequests (the Jade ones :P), you eventually see a scene in theeee... Ortion Cavern, I think it was? Wherever Dist's lab was. There are two Cheagles in cages and it's mentioned that one is a perfect isofon/replica of the other (my terminology is a bit rusty!). When the original died, the replica absorbed the fonons that made up the original and the original was the personality that lived on. It may not have happened exactly like that, but I definitely remember that it was the original that lived on.

So if you go solely by that evidence alone, then all signs point toward Asch being the one who lived. However... it's also implied in the final segment of that sidequest that it could go either way. Dist confronts Jade about the big bang (which is what this phenomenon is called) and Jade says he's aware but that he doesn't think it will come to that. Or something along those lines! Maybe it was just Jade being sentimental about Luke but he so rarely does anything like that that it always made me wonder if he actually thought there was a chance it could be Luke. I don't think he'd say otherwise to Dist if he didn't think it was possible.

But it's also been forever since I played so I might have the details wrong here and there. All I know is that upon my first complete playthrough (ie, all story scenes), I thought it was meant to be Asch.

 

[PokéSwimmer]

Don't forget spoilers guys. I know Abyss is like a million years old now but since it's getting re-released, there may still be people who want to pick it up and don't know the story yet! :x

As for the ending:

Spoiler:

If you do all the Contamination Effect sidequests (the Jade ones :P), you eventually see a scene in theeee... Ortion Cavern, I think it was? Wherever Dist's lab was. There are two Cheagles in cages and it's mentioned that one is a perfect isofon/replica of the other (my terminology is a bit rusty!). When the original died, the replica absorbed the fonons that made up the original and the original was the personality that lived on. It may not have happened exactly like that, but I definitely remember that it was the original that lived on.

So if you go solely by that evidence alone, then all signs point toward Asch being the one who lived. However... it's also implied in the final segment of that sidequest that it could go either way. Dist confronts Jade about the big bang (which is what this phenomenon is called) and Jade says he's aware but that he doesn't think it will come to that. Or something along those lines! Maybe it was just Jade being sentimental about Luke but he so rarely does anything like that that it always made me wonder if he actually thought there was a chance it could be Luke. I don't think he'd say otherwise to Dist if he didn't think it was possible.

But it's also been forever since I played so I might have the details wrong here and there. All I know is that upon my first complete playthrough (ie, all story scenes), I thought it was meant to be Asch.

Is the contamination sidequest available during the first playthrough? I remember doing it in my second, but I never really finished that X_X
Also: here's my view on the ending:

Spoiler:

I always thought Luke at the end was meant to be a combination of Asch and Luke, like their personalities fused or something. That way both Luke and Asch lived on and Natalia and Tear get in a fight over who gets him.

 

[Cherrim]

I'm pretty sure it's available in any playthrough.

 

[U.Flame]

here's my view on the ending:

Spoiler:

I always thought Luke at the end was meant to be a combination of Asch and Luke, like their personalities fused or something. That way both Luke and Asch lived on and Natalia and Tear get in a fight over who gets him.

Spoiler:

That 's what I thought at first, until I did I did the contamination effect sidequest. Now I just have no idea.

 

[thedestinedblade]

I hate open endings. The producer of the game pretty much said that it's whoever you want to be. :\

 

[PokéSwimmer]

I hate open endings. The producer of the game pretty much said that it's whoever you want to be. :\

Well I absolutely love open endings, they make you think. Endings that stay on your mind for a while after you finish are my favorite. Tales of the Abyss's ending was by far the best I've ever seen in a video game (OK, maybe I'm exaggerating a bit, but still). Usually, I don't like most video game endings, but Abyss really did it for me.

 

[U.Flame]

I love and hate open endings. They make you think, but also make me want to bang my head in confusion and frustration. >.<

 

[thedestinedblade]

Open endings usually leave me with an empty feeling of wanting more. I guess some people liked it better in not knowing, but I would of liked something definite.

 

[mishy.]

It would be nice if we got a more definite idea of what exactly happened at the end. I don't think I ever did the contamination sidequest (I don't quite remember) but there's that constant nagging feeling of who exactly it could be. Seeing Tear's reaction I want to say it was Luke, but then what exactly happened with Asch. :/ I'm with U_Flame on open endings. I like them as long as I can come up with something definite in my head of what would have happened. With Abyss I can't seem to do that.

(In other news it's Tales of Symphonia's eighth anniversary today. Not that anyone really cares other than me though. xD)

 

[ソラ]

It would be nice if we got a more definite idea of what exactly happened at the end. I don't think I ever did the contamination sidequest (I don't quite remember) but there's that constant nagging feeling of who exactly it could be. Seeing Tear's reaction I want to say it was Luke, but then what exactly happened with Asch. :/ I'm with U_Flame on open endings. I like them as long as I can come up with something definite in my head of what would have happened. With Abyss I can't seem to do that.

(In other news it's Tales of Symphonia's eighth anniversary today. Not that anyone really cares other than me though. xD)

I don't exactly know if its Luke or Asch, But I think its Luke's body with both Personality

Spoiler:

Like when Asch died, everything went into Luke's body

^^ that can be the answer?? Just guessing.

Oh Happy Birthday Symphonia!!! :DDD. (I need to get a gamecube controller and this game I already have a GC Memory Card).

Also I decided to Pre-order Xillia. Can't wait till that comes out :) 9/8/2011 :DD

 

[mishy.]

Spoiler:

Yeah, I know everything went into Luke's Body, which is why the question of the person at the end being Luke or Asch. It could be Luke in Aschs body, Luke and Asch in the same body, or whatever. So instead of answering anything it is actually the thing that bring up the many questions. :/

I have no plans on getting Xillia because I don't have a PS3.

 

[Miss Doronjo]

Spoiler:

I was kind of confused at that too. @___@ Since Asch died I only assumed that was Luke, but with Asch's hair + personality in the mix.

I didn't know if Tales of Xilla was worth getting a PS3; I've still yet to seen some gameplay of it.


Now, BTW: What's your max. hit combo in any Tales of game?

Cause I remember scoring a 310 hit combo in ToV with Yuri. ^___^
Soooo Fun. <3