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4th Gen Team Rocket speculation

If Team Rocket could be half as bad as Galactic had been, I'd be satified enough with them, but the step up for them, it'll be large.
 
Atleast TR is the only group yet that does not seem like a cult. More like a mafia.
 
The most important thing I want for team rocket are different, stroger Pokémon and high levels. Also, more additonal double battles will be fairly acceptable for me when it comes to Team Rocket.
 
I think it will be exactly the same as it was in the originals and don't see why people see so much room for discussion in this topic. It kinda baffles me but I've seen enough people discuss this at length that I've no choice but to leave this open, lmao. 8(

I'd love to see more variety in Pokemon since I hate that in all the enemy teams but honestly, I don't expect it at all.
 
Team rocket is my favorite team hands down

none of that cult, evil for a good cause, saving the world crap D;
just downright evil and greedy mafia type, evil because they want to gain something, not because they think they're going to do some good {{well galactic was pretty evil but the grunts generally werent very "evil" just manipulated in a way >.>}}

I hope they become a challenge, and they have more of an organized story,

and variety in pokemon, its tiring seeing every single grunt use a raticate or whatever D;
 
Team Rocket is the BEST team. Team Aqua/Magma and Galactic are just stupid. They're practically good guys, dressed up and doing absurd things.

TR is the best because they're actually bad... They don't even care about Pokemon; they just us them as a means to get money. That's awesome.

And I would hate to see them in Kanto. They don't belong there, period.
 
Er, I have to ask but how does Team Rocket not belong in the Kanto when they are originally from the Kanto? It makes no sense...
 
Redstar said:
Team Rocket is the BEST team. Team Aqua/Magma and Galactic are just stupid. They're practically good guys, dressed up and doing absurd things.

TR is the best because they're actually bad... They don't even care about Pokemon; they just us them as a means to get money. That's awesome.

And I would hate to see them in Kanto. They don't belong there, period.
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Mind = blown. How is this logical?
 
Lightning said:
I'd love to see more variety in Pokemon since I hate that in all the enemy teams but honestly, I don't expect it at all.
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Well, at least, G/S attempt to broaden, and we do have the media versions for a variety of Pokemon (Special, the Stadiums). But, I do agree, as Rocket Pokemon need to be augmented for in-game.

As for the manga names of the Execs, as sir alluded, true, but those aren't official English canon names, so. I'm still going by the Japanese versions, so I'll take what I can get, either way.

Well, I won't say Neo Team Rocket didn't have a plot, no. It was more "business as usual," which then abruptly shifted to "it's time to revive fully and call back Giovanni." It's less self-contained than the Kanto version, I admit.

Both arcs have their strengths and weaknesses, really.
 
Moving on, I would be pleased to see that Team Rocket becomes more of a difficulty in the game than a pain; They deserve it really, seeing as they are the first criminals made and the first to expand to two regions as well.
 
f l a s h said:
Er, I have to ask but how does Team Rocket not belong in the Kanto when they are originally from the Kanto? It makes no sense...
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As I've said before, it was firmly established at the end of the first generation that Giovanni had redeemed himself and disbanded Team Rocket.

The whole reason that Team Rocket is in Johto rather than Kanto is because they CANT be there. It would just be too difficult. Do you really think that the Nazi's would attempt a come-back in Germany? No, they just wouldn't. There's just so much laws and an overall zeitgeist in place that it couldn't even get started. But we see Neo-Nazism here in America, and have had movements since the '60s, not too long after WWII. It's just a different world over here. We haven't experienced it yet, so we have no reason to put laws up against it.

It's the same thing with Kanto and Johto. Kanto is on guard and has police force, laws, and a general feeling that prevents TR from making any return. However, Johto has not gone through this so they are easier to make a move on. They just feel more comfortable, and thus are easy picking.

The entire story of Gold/Silver is that TR is trying to make a return and get their old leader back, and they have no real focus. They're just doing anything for money or to showboat in a mad attempt to look like they have power. They certainly would not make a move for Kanto until they were firmly established in Johto, and even without Gold's interference I doubt this would have happened for another year, at least.

And that's why it's illogical for TR to be in Kanto.
 
Redstar said:
As I've said before, it was firmly established at the end of the first generation that Giovanni had redeemed himself and disbanded Team Rocket.

The whole reason that Team Rocket is in Johto rather than Kanto is because they CANT be there. It would just be too difficult. Do you really think that the Nazi's would attempt a come-back in Germany? No, they just wouldn't. There's just so much laws and an overall zeitgeist in place that it couldn't even get started. But we see Neo-Nazism here in America, and have had movements since the '60s, not too long after WWII. It's just a different world over here. We haven't experienced it yet, so we have no reason to put laws up against it.

It's the same thing with Kanto and Johto. Kanto is on guard and has police force, laws, and a general feeling that prevents TR from making any return. However, Johto has not gone through this so they are easier to make a move on. They just feel more comfortable, and thus are easy picking.

The entire story of Gold/Silver is that TR is trying to make a return and get their old leader back, and they have no real focus. They're just doing anything for money or to showboat in a mad attempt to look like they have power. They certainly would not make a move for Kanto until they were firmly established in Johto, and even without Gold's interference I doubt this would have happened for another year, at least.

And that's why it's illogical for TR to be in Kanto.
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That is why this should have definitely been explained before, but it is never too late. You actually make a really good point with where you are going with this. I never really thought about Team Rocket that way either, in such realistic terms anyway.
 
I never thought of it like that, that actually makes a lot of sense at least to me it does.
 
working underground is a pretty thing.
The Rocket member managed to sabotage the magnet train without getting caught by all them officers.



ninjas all of them.
 
If they bring in the Sevii Islands, then they can possibly try to continue there in a way, like how it was in FRLG.
 
It would be difficult, but not impossible to reform Team Rocket in Kanto. They just need to hide out until they can get enough people to overpower the police, or do such a big strike against Kanto to leave their forces crippled. It would be difficult, but it wouldn't be impossible. It has been shown that the defences were upped in the original G/S in case of Team Rocket's return, but it isn't impossible to reform there. Besides, there could have been many people secretly working for Team Rocket in high positions that weren't caught... yes, probably not true, but it is possible. Also, one of the underground tunnels was closed, and Cinnabar is almost deserted, there could be networks in those two places that no one knows about, and if they decide to add it in, than the Sevii Islands. They didn't do anything major there, just looked through two places for two stones, nothing drastic enough to really get worried, unless they get paranoid of course.

Team Rocket showed potential to return in G/S. Maybe it doesn't mean anything, but there was a member in Kanto who took a part of a machine from the Power Plant, which, since it is possibly the biggest power plant in Kanto (If there are more, but realistically speaking, there should be more.) It should have some sort of security, because if it were attacked, than the consequences would be devastating. It supplied power to the Magnet Train, and possibly supplied thousands of buildings, including major buildings with power, but that was unable to be touched on, as that would cause the region to be shut down.

But I doubt they would go through the hard work involved to return to Kanto... maybe Sevii Islands, but not Kanto. Redstar's argument makes a lot of sense, more than mine in my own opinion.
 
I think I'll go with the idea of RedStar it makes the point crystal clear. Though the Sevii Island plot could be a possibility like mentioned before. It'll also give Team Rocket the chance to have new Gen Pokémon in their party as well.
 
I guess they would only change the original storyline a bit, but add new stories i hope... Giovanni will definitely be there...

And i wish they have stronger Pokemon and better uniforms... XD

Blasting Off Again!
 
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