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The Best Overall Team (Unofficial)

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ooka_100 said:
Here is my opinion of cradily

Cradily@leftovers
Impish 200 special defense/200 defense/108 hp
Barrier
amnesia
recover
ancient power
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Meh, max out HP. Less in Defense since it has an Impish Nature.
 
Ehhh...

Physical Wall - Tangrowth/Cradily
Special Wall - Milotic
Physical Sweeper - Metagross
Special Sweeper - Magmortar
Rapid Spinner - Claydol
Annoyer - Togekiss

Now lets see the weaknesses:

Tangrowth - Fire - Bug - Poison - Flying
Cradily - Fighting - Ice - Bug - Steel
Milotic - Electric - Grass
Metagross - Fire - Ground
Magmortar - Water - Ground - Rock
Claydol - Water - Grass - Ice - Bug - Ghost - Dark
Togekiss - Ice - Rock - Electric


This should help us plan out good movesets for these pokemon.
 
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Well the weakness facotr should not always dictate how we have to go. If we do kepp on following it that way we wont be able to use a wonderful Pokemon. Instead we probably have to use a not so good Pokemon.

Milotic and Metagross can wall Ice Beams. Well Milotic most likely. When did we agree Magmortar was a definate member of the team?
 
Well I'd like to say there are better Special Sweepers then Magmortar.

Togekiss alone is a special sweeper. Milotic to another extent despite her low speed.

I'd rahter that post be used for something else as countering our weakness to ice.
 
Yes there are better ones, but we haven't decided.

Togekiss is better off Annoyer with this ParaFlinch thing.

Milotic is the best special wall(blissey... but)
 
Yes, Punishment, know that we will be restricted to what pokemon we pick compared to the rest of our team. We are not always given the oppertunity to switch pokemon out to prevent our weaknesses from harming us. Milotic can counter an ice poke, but it cannot defeat one. She has no moves that can stop a bulky water from her wrath, so we send out our Milotic against their Milotic, then he will just switch out because it is a stalemate. It does not get rid of the bulky water. So, I need to suggest something that can stop a bulky water in their tracks. Punishment, I dought the Best Team we can think of will have such a large weakness to ice.
 
So what we need is a good Milotic counter.

Most Ice types mix in the water type so we probably need Tangrowth as a sweeper?

But that won't stop the Ice weakness...

Ok we need a Grass Knotter water type, Empoleon, Slowbro, and Starmie(T-bolt, but serves the same purpose).
 
But what we need is a supereffective pokemon against other Milotic and pokemon who use the Surf/Icebeam. And probably one with good speed.
 
Ok, here is our current team:

Claydol
Togekiss
Magmortar (Pending)
Metagross
Dusknoir (Pending)
Milotic

I like the sound of Starmie now. It could be a good great counter to Skarmory, and it can take on Milotic. There is only one thing wrong with the grass knot water type and Starmie. That would make half of our team weak to Electric attacks.

Togekiss
Milotic
Grass Knot Water Type or Starmie

I know some of you dont want to take that into consideration, but it will have a big impact on our team if half of them are weak to any one type.

Plus we already have three weaknesses to Bug Types, but im not to worried about that because not many people run bug moves.
 
Surf and ice beam are not neccesary, here are the supereffectives

surf-fire, rock, ground
ice-grass, flying, ground, dragon

now here are other types that can cover the same types

ground-fire, rock, poisin, electric, steel
dragon-dragon
rock-fire, flying, ice, bug

(now what pokemon that you took out of the team would have a move of all three of those types, I don't know about stone edge but it will definately have a dragon move and ground)

grass-ground, rock, water, (can you say tangrowth, I mean what kind of pokemon uses special ground moves)

You still have type coverage, just a better wall.

So yeah, that may take up 2 spaces but it
 
It seems it is time for Ludicolo to shine once again.

Being as Grass/Water type it basically laughs at all attempts of Ice Beam and Surf.

Though I wouldnt mind seeinf Starmie on the team. She is a fast one.
 
Categories:

Physical Wall - Tangrowth/Cradily
Special Wall - Milotic
Physical Sweeper - Metagross
Special Sweeper - Magmortar
Rapid Spinner - Claydol
Annoyer - Togekiss

Weaknesses:

Tangrowth - Fire - Bug - Poison - Flying
Cradily - Fighting - Ice - Bug - Steel
Milotic - Electric - Grass
Metagross - Fire - Ground
Magmortar - Water - Ground - Rock
Claydol - Water - Grass - Ice - Bug - Ghost - Dark
Togekiss - Ice - Rock - Electric

Whiscash eliminates Ice types and is immune to Electric, along with Lanturn, that is. I suggest them.
 
Never use whiscash, go with swampert. Also lanturn is a bad choice, I don't see why bolt beam blissey can't take the place of milotic, with enormous hp it is the better choice. I don't care if you guys don't like it, it is the better choice. With only one weakness you could get gengar in there to pair with it as your special sweeper and suck up th fighting attacks since it is immune.
 
Might as well nullify that grass weakness on Milotic. I have never seen a grass type (with the exception of Ludicolo) being able to beat her.

I suggest Ludicolo though. It resists common elements like Water, Steel and Ground. Has uncommon weaknesses to Poison, Flying and Bug. Basically it could stand up to Milotic and even Metagross.
 
blah !!! I knew there was another Water/Ground Pokemon. It completely slipped out of my mind... Swampert.

Gengar has more than one weakness. Dark-Psychic-Ghost...

Without Milotic, we won't have a bulky water, and most teams I've seen always have a bulky water.
 
If the team went this way:

Claydol (Ground/Psychic): Water, Grass, Ice, Bug, Ghost, Dark
Togekiss (Normal/Flyig): Electric, Ice , Rock
Metagross(Steel/Psychic): Fire, Electric
Milotic (Water): Electric, Grass
Cradily (Rock/Grass): Ice, Fighting, Bug, Steel
Ludicolo (Water/Grass): Poison, Flying, Bug

The team seems balanced alright. Three offensive (well Milotic has a nice base Sp. Atk) and three defensive Pokemon sounds nice. (Claydol, Cradily and Lusicolo can attack and hold thier own too.)
 
Penguinpal6 said:
Categories:

Physical Wall - Tangrowth/Cradily/Regirock/Skarmory/Forretress
Special Wall - Milotic/Regice/Blissey/Snorlax
Physical Sweeper - Metagross/Salamence/Tyranitar/Aerodactyl/Slaking/Rampardos/Ursauring/Hitmonlee
Special Sweeper - Magmortar/Alakazam/Gardevoir/Sceptile/Zapdos/Moltres/Raikou
Rapid Spinner - Claydol/Starmie/Blastoise/Forretress
Annoyer - Togekiss/Umbreon

Weaknesses:

Tangrowth - Fire - Bug - Poison - Flying
Cradily - Fighting - Ice - Bug - Steel
Milotic - Electric - Grass
Metagross - Fire - Ground
Magmortar - Water - Ground - Rock
Claydol - Water - Grass - Ice - Bug - Ghost - Dark
Togekiss - Ice - Rock - Electric

Whiscash eliminates Ice types and is immune to Electric, along with Lanturn, that is. I suggest them.
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You forgot a few. Thought I'd help you out. ^_^
 
First of all I didn't say that gengar has one weakness, I said that you could pair it with blissey to take care of blissey's only weakness. Second, we really aren't looking for more choices lord mike, we are deciding on the pokemon we already picked out. And thatnks anyways.
 
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