The Best Overall Team (Unofficial)

[sims796]

I think we replaced Chomp for Gya. We also have Milotic for the "bulky", I suppose.

 

[Dark Azelf]

I think we replaced Chomp for Gya. We also have Milotic for the "bulky", I suppose.

Ah ok, but a Bolt Beamer is going to do a number on the team though.


Milotic can be a Physical/Mixed wall with a Rest Talk set.


and the Bronzong you suggested would be good only if we got rid of Metagross,as we are opening up a fire weakness, but i suppose Gyara and Milo can cover up for that .

 

[sims796]

Well, a Light Screen Brozong is hard to take down. And Claydol is pretty good against Electric. But we can find a Meta replacement, although I wanted to keep Meta.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Well, a Light Screen Brozong is hard to take down. And Claydol is pretty good against Electric. But we can find a Meta replacement, although I wanted to keep Meta.

Light Screen Bronzong Is fantastic.

something like this maybe ??

Bronzong@Leftovers
Sassy Nature
evs: 252 HP / 100 ATK / 108 DEF / 48 SPDEF
- Light Screen
- Stealth Rock/Explosion/Earthquake
- Hypnosis/Rest
- Gyro Ball



Yea Metagross is great, but we want as few weaknesses as possible.


also dont Togekiss and Ludicolo do the exactly the same Job ? annoy the hell out of people ?

Should we replace one of those as one is taking up a space ?

EDIT: I also believe we are lacking a Special Sweeper

 

[sims796]

That is an excellent set. There is also on a thread Brozong EV's, that you might wanna take into consideration.

Yes, I suggested that we remove Ludicolo, as much as i like grass types. What are some replacements for Meta?

 

[Dark Azelf]

That is an excellent set. There is also on a thread Brozong EV's, that you might wanna take into consideration.

Yes, I suggested that we remove Ludicolo, as much as i like grass types. What are some replacements for Meta?

Thanks

Ive just had a look on smogon to help me with the evs and added rest to it, im not really used to using Zong so i was unsure about the Evs, thats why i just did the 252/252 and 6 .



Instead of Metagross ??, errmm well here are some options that dont add to weaknesses and that are all excellent Physical sweepers, Tyranitar, Gallade, Electivire, Weavile, Scarf Machamp etc..

if not have a look here and see if ther is anythig else that could fit in, in place of Metagross https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/stat/attack.shtml

Now the fact we lack a good special sweeper is a problem....


any suggestions ?

 

[Ooka]

Too many special walls now, Bronzong, Togekiss, Claydol, and I personally think Milotic and Ludi are too.

 

[sims796]

Brozong will be physical, Milotic might be physical-or dual. We are covered in defense. We need a sp.atker.

 

[Ooka]

Um, you mean like the togekiss you already have? What you need is a support pokemon, for example Miltank.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Um, you mean like the togekiss you already have? What you need is a support pokemon, for example Miltank.

Togekiss is an annoyer isnt it in this team (Flinch Hax)??

IMO it does the following much better than sweep:-
Ablity Serene Grace and the Moveset Aura Sphere, Air Slash, Thunderwave and Roost,
the opponent will rarely get a chance to attack just because og its ability which makes Air Slash a 60% Flinch Rate and the other 40% they will be paralyzed , and even if they do get an attack in, you just roost off the damage.


Also i agree with Sims, Milotic is Mixed, Cloydol is a rapid Spinner and Physical wall and Bronzong can be either Physical or Special, but in this case it looks to be special.

Miltank is good but it looks as though everyone has decided on Claydol becasue it can rapid Spin Stealth Rock etc.

 

[sims796]

True enough, Azelf. If Kiss is playing the Annoyer, she can't be the sweeper. She can't really play two roles.

 

[Dark Azelf]

True enough, Azelf. If Kiss is playing the Annoyer, she can't be the sweeper. She can't really play two roles.

Yeah its a much better annoyer, just because of its ability IMO.

So what do you think with replacing Metagross with, i posted some suggestions earlier of what i think could do the job.

well here are some options that dont add to weaknesses and that are all excellent Physical sweepers, Tyranitar, Gallade, Electivire, Weavile, Scarf Machamp etc..

if not have a look here and see if ther is anythig else that could fit in, in place of Metagross https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/stat/attack.shtml

Now the fact we lack a good special sweeper is a problem..

any suggestions ?

 

[sims796]

I say Electrivire, Breloom, TTar, or Chomp. But the most powerful...Flareon.Unbeatable. We won't even need a team with Flare :laugh:

Side note, Dark, are you availible for an IV check?

 

[Dark Azelf]

I say Electrivire, Breloom, TTar, or Chomp. But the most powerful...Flareon.Unbeatable. We won't even need a team with Flare :laugh:

Side note, Dark, are you availible for an IV check?

Flareon Pwns all XD

Maybe TTAR, not alot can stop it once it gets one or two dragon dance in, likewise with Mixed Elictivire once it gets a motor drive boost, and we also lack an electric attack, and I bleieve Chomp adds to the Ice weakness, so im sceptical about that

so its either TTar or Electivire.


Now for the special sweeper.....meh so many to choose from,

How about Scarfed Porgon-z or Specs Azlkazam, or even Gengar ??


Also sims ill meet you online for that IV battle in a minute.PM me when your ready so we don't spam this thread up lol

 

[sims796]

I say Vire. Ttar's Sandstream hurts half our team, limiting Milotic's walling & Gyarados sweeping.

 

[Dark Azelf]

I say Vire. Ttar's Sandstream hurts half our team, limiting Milotic's walling & Gyarados sweeping.

Good point

So Vire it is then,


Ok last spot need filling with a Special Sweeper, somethig a bit like what i suggested in my previous post.


Also Sims im ready for the IV battle now if you wish and after, we'll come back and do movesets.

 

[sims796]

I say Zam, Gengar, or Porygon-Z.

Lemme hatch these eggs.

 

[Dark Azelf]

I say Zam, Gengar, or Porygon-Z.

Lemme hatch these eggs.

So our team now is

Zam is rather frail and adds to Claydol's Weakness, and so does Gengar. However Porggon-z resists Ghost moves which could potentially OHKO Claydol, ok i say Scarf'd Porygon-z

Do you agree ?

Gyarados
Electivire
Togekiss
Claydol
Milotic
Porygon-Z

Sure just pm me when you have hatched those eggs, (lemme guess, Oddish right XD?)

and ill edit this post to come up with movesets for them (or try to)

 

[sims796]

Yes, that looks beautiful. I say we've done good.

And yes, Oddish, how did ya know :laugh:

 

[Dark Azelf]

Yes, that looks beautiful. I say we've done good.

And yes, Oddish, how did ya know :laugh:

Gyarados@Leftovers
Adamant Nature
214 HP 16 ATT 180 DEF 100 SPEED
- Taunt
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Dragon Dance

Bulky Gyarados,

Electivire@Expert Belt/Muscle Band
Lonely Nature
252 Atk / 176 Spd / 80 SpA
- Thunderbolt
- Cross Chop
- Earthquake
- Ice Punch

Mixed Electivire, owns SkarmBliss

Togekiss@Leftovers
Modest/Clam Nature
Ability:Serene Grace
EVS:252 Sp Atk/200 HP/58 Sp Def
- Air Slash
- Aura Sphere
- Roost/Softboiled (Yes it can learn it to my amazement)
- Thunderwave

Flinch Hax

Claydol@leftovers
Bold/Impish Nature
evs: 252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 Sp.Att/Att (Or from Smogon evs: 252 HP / 114 DEF / 144 SPD)
- Rapid Spin
- Earthquake / Earth Power
- Stone Edge / Ice Beam
- Stealth Rock/Psychic / Reflect

Physical Wall

Bronzong@Leftovers
Sassy Nature
evs: 252 HP / 100 ATK / 108 DEF / 48 SPDEF
- Light Screen
- Stealth Rock/Explosion/Earthquake
- Hypnosis/Rest
- Gyro Ball

Special Wall

OR


Milotic@leftovers
Bold Nature
Trait:Marvel Scale
evs: 252 HP / 136 Def / 120 SpAtt
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Steep Talk
- Rest

Bulky Water

Porygon-Z@Choice Scarf
Modest Nature
Trait: Download
EVS: 252 Speed 252 SP.ATT 6 HP
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Tri Attack
- Dark Pulse

Special Sweeper


what do you think ??

any improvements or ev changes etc ??


LOL and the reason i knew it was oddish is the fact that you are in an endless circle to hatch a certain hidden power Oddish XD