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The Dragon's Den V.2

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Dukey said:
Yer I hate Pikachu (as a battler) but, and even if I used one of that species, I'd use Raichu, its stronger.

It doesn't matter that no one joined Jess, but heres a tip, if someones username is for example Dragon_Master67 then send hem a VM telling them about the den, cause you are not alowed to make people join
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or if his name is Dragonite Lover or someone who likes at least one or 2 dragon pokemon. Pm him send him a Visitor message about joining the den.

and yea Dukey now u changed to Umbreon . its a Baton Passer and i like it . i had an Eevee but it doesnt evolve to Umbreon. dunno why -_-
 
Yer I saw that baton passer moveset on smogon the other day, I think if umbreon & vaporeon mixed their movepools together they'd make an awesome baton passer

Also guess who just got a Shiny EV'd Salamence AND a Shiny EV'd Garchomp... ME!
 
Dukey said:
Yer I saw that baton passer moveset on smogon the other day, I think if umbreon & vaporeon mixed their movepools together they'd make an awesome baton passer

Also guess who just got a Shiny EV'd Salamence AND a Shiny EV'd Garchomp... ME!
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can u post their stats and their movesets here?
 
Shiny Salamence 331/405/196/230/197/299 Intimidate, Adamant, Somewhat Vain
Dragon Dance
Earth Quake
Dragon Claw
Stone Edge

Shiny Garchomp (Possible Hack 50%) 357/394/203/196/206/303 Sand Veil, Lonely, Alert to sounds
Fire Fang
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Dragon Dance

I wanna give them outrage, does anyone agree?
 
Dukey said:
Yer I hate Pikachu (as a battler) but, and even if I used one of that species, I'd use Raichu, its stronger.

It doesn't matter that no one joined Jess, but heres a tip, if someones username is for example Dragon_Master67 then send hem a VM telling them about the den, cause you are not alowed to make people join
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no at school!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Dukey said:
Shiny Salamence 331/405/196/230/197/299 Intimidate, Adamant, Somewhat Vain
Dragon Dance
Earth Quake
Dragon Claw
Stone Edge

Shiny Garchomp (Possible Hack 50%) 357/394/203/196/206/303 Sand Veil, Lonely, Alert to sounds
Fire Fang
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Dragon Dance

I wanna give them outrage, does anyone agree?
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Give Garchomp Outrage or maybe even Draco Meteor if you want. Earthquake needs to stay. Switch Dragon Dance to Swords Dance, and take out Fire Fang for Fire Blast, and take out Dragon Claw like I've said for either Draco Meteor or Outrage.
 
Dukey said:
Shiny Salamence 331/405/196/230/197/299 Intimidate, Adamant, Somewhat Vain
Dragon Dance
Earth Quake
Dragon Claw
Stone Edge

Shiny Garchomp (Possible Hack 50%) 357/394/203/196/206/303 Sand Veil, Lonely, Alert to sounds
Fire Fang
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Dragon Dance

I wanna give them outrage, does anyone agree?
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Impressive! they are Stronger than my Salamence and my Garchomp! heres some good Advices that may help u:

for Salamence:
Replace Stone Edge with Outrage since your Salamnce have heavy attack.this will make a high damage on other pokemon. its defence and Sp.def isnt that good.but this Salamence is a tough one!

and For Garchomp:
Replace Fire Fang With Sandstorm to make Sand Veil Activated.Sand Veil Raises the Evasion of Garchomp During SandStorm. if an opponent will use a non accurated move such as Fire Blast,Focus Blast,Blizzard. these moves will have a great chance to miss. and u r free to use Dragon Dance to Raise Garchomp,s attack and Speed,or Replace Dragon Dance With Double Team. if u kept using Double Team During Sandstorm. the opponent will have a hard time to hit Garchomp.

i dont force u to change ur pokemon,s movesets. ur Pokemon current movesets are great . also if u used my Advice. u might find it handy :D
 
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Umm, I was considering, on Salamence, replacing EQ with Outrage, and then getting rid of DD on Chomp for smething else
not gonna give chomp outrage, as there aint much to get rid of, and also Uber Chomp, Chomps Atk is way better than his Sp Atk so Fire Fang > Fire Blast
 
UberChomp said:
Give Garchomp Outrage or maybe even Draco Meteor if you want. Earthquake needs to stay. Switch Dragon Dance to Swords Dance, and take out Fire Fang for Fire Blast, and take out Dragon Claw like I've said for either Draco Meteor or Outrage.
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Draco Meteor is for Dialga and Palkia .Fire Blast isnt good for Garchomp since his Garchomp Sp.Atk is not strong. SandStorm is good making Garchomp high in Evasion and a pokemon using Blizzard will have a hard time hitting Garchomp as i said it before . Double Team can assist Garchomp to help him become Invicible.

and i have a good moveset for Pikachu Holding Light Ball
1-Reversal
2-Thunderbolt
3-Endure
4-Protect

Strategy:
Pikachu isnt very fast but it had a decent Speed and with both its attack and sp.atk doubled by light ball. use Endure to make ur HP 1 if ur opponent used a strong move that can pwn Pikachu. Pikachu will Endure it.with the help of statics . it may paralyze the opponent in contact. if ur opponent didnt get Paralyze. use Protect to make ur opponent,s move fails. then use Endure. this is good if ur opponent uses only Physical moves. when ur opponent get paralyzed. give him a KO attack such as Reversal with Base Power 200 becuz Pikachu,s HP is 1 . this can be also very powerful becuz of the doubled Attack and Sp.atk.
 
umm I can think of a better, faster version of this...

lv 1 Ratatta @ Focus Sash
-Endeavor
-Quick Attack

and yes I copied the idea from Marriland
 
yea Rattata acts like a bomb instead of a Cute Rat. and i have a good Machop Moveset but it can be done only by cheats:

lv 1 Machop @Focus Sash
Ability: No Guard
-Sheer Cold
-Trick Room

Strategy:
instantly Machop Endures with Focus Sash. and then use Trick room to change the Dimension of the speed. that means the slower pokemon attacks first. then use Sheer Cold To Instantly KO the Opponent becuz the ability No Guard makes Machop,s Moves never Miss! u can instantly KO 5 of ur opponent Pokemon!

just dont forget that to do this. u must use Action Replay DS.... although its Illegal so its Forbidden when playing with others.....
 
ChaosLucario said:
Draco Meteor is for Dialga and Palkia .Fire Blast isnt good for Garchomp since his Garchomp Sp.Atk is not strong. SandStorm is good making Garchomp high in Evasion and a pokemon using Blizzard will have a hard time hitting Garchomp as i said it before . Double Team can assist Garchomp to help him become Invicible.
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Sorry to be blunt, you sound very noobish because you only know the basics. Garchomp gets STAB from Fire Blast and it can nail a OHKO on the very common wall: Bronzong. Stats aren't the only thing to consider in pokemon movesets! Also, Double Team is useless for Garchomp, first of all evasion moves are banned from most battles and Garchomp already has the Sand Veil ability which raises his evasion in a Sandstorm!!! Its not all about the stats! If you worry about Garchomp's Special Attack stat, which isn't that bad then accquire a special attack boosting nature through breeding. Draco Meteor can be taught to Giratina, Garchomp, Rayquaza, Flygon, and others. Draco Meteor has a crazy base power of 140, which means even after the special attack drop it can score OHKOs.

Remember, get more knowledgeable about pokemon then we can talk.
 
I realise that Garchomps Sp Atk stat is usually ok but the one I'm gettings is only 206,
So a STAB 65 Base Power 394 Atk Fire Fang, is gonna do some damage.

Also, new idea, I think Garchomp needs brick break, wbu?
 
dont call me noobish. im knowledgable about pokemon. and i know whats every pokemon,s good moveset. if ur Garchomp,s Sp.atk is good for Draco meteor and fire Blast then its ok. but what im saying that his Garchomp had poor Sp.Atk so how could he teach a pokemon with poor Sp.Atk a Special Category move?196 base Sp.atk stat isnt good for Special moves! and Fire Fang is good for Garchomp since its Physical Move . and u say Sand Veil helps Garchomp,s Evasion. thats right and Double Team can help it too. why cant u undserstand?? -.-

and ur problem is u depend on the base power of the move not on the Category!
Physical Moves Depends on Attack stat and Special Moves Depends on Sp.Atk stat!
and i didnt call u noobish so feel sorry about what u said .
 
May I join?

I built my whole emerald team around dragons, (Excluding blaziken). And I think dragon types are really cool :)
 
Welcome Blazeavile! u r welcomed in our Fan Club! u can show us how good ur dragon team here!
 
Sure you can join (finally a new member XD)
Shadow236 will update the members list soon!

OK, Chaos, what I meant with Base Power is that say, like my garchomp, he has poor Sp Atk & awesome atk, but fire blast could be more powerful still because of its base power

Oh and UberChomp, you're fighting a lost war here, we need to stop talking bout Garchomps Fire Fang/Blast... OK now time for Garchomps Brick Break?
 
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