Graphics: The DS-Style 64x64 Trainer Sprite Resource

[MrDollSteak]

As many of you will know, Chaos Rush has created a resource for properly resized DS Pokemon sprites,
and I have continued this on for Gen VI. That being said there has never really been a set of properly resized
trainer sprites to match them.

This project has actually existed for a while but went out of fashion, I have decided to pick it back up and to change
the rules slightly. Originally Rizon had specified that sprites should be resized at 85% in every case, while this is a good
measurement, depending on the sprite 80% and 90% can be employed depending on the sprites' original head size and
positioning.

Additionally, Spherical Ice has recently touched up and DS-ified a few of the Gen III sprites. I am willing to accept sprites
in this style too and will group them separately to give people more choices in the sprites they use. That being said the Gen III
sprites tend to have shorter limbs and bigger heads than resized DS equivalents so you will have to use your judgment when
pairing them.

Without further ado here are the sprites.

Gen III Revamp Sprites:

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FRLG Black Belt http://i.imgur.com/6Nw0jdO.png
Crush Girl http://i.imgur.com/0l9Xifu.png
Crush Kin http://i.imgur.com/ycbnT62.png
Expert Male http://i.imgur.com/X5GaxkO.png
Expert Female http://i.imgur.com/gkusdm0.png
Old Couple http://i.imgur.com/iIPrZD5.png
Painter http://i.imgur.com/ICUpEM5.png
Kindler http://i.imgur.com/MsF2JYj.png
Guitarist http://i.imgur.com/tojAgro.png
FRLG Beauty http://i.imgur.com/WNFXHFd.png
FRLG Twins http://i.imgur.com/RDSJetp.png
FRLG Pokemon Ranger Male http://i.imgur.com/USogzLd.png
FRLG Pokemon Ranger Female http://i.imgur.com/7Cu6ZYo.png
FRLG Gentleman http://i.imgur.com/BpGxhXl.png

Gen IV Sprites:

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DP Lucas http://i.imgur.com/iaZUO2c.png
Platinum Lucas http://i.imgur.com/o1CxBPk.png
Ethan http://i.imgur.com/XRhH21e.png
DP Youngster http://i.imgur.com/4ErXI1U.png
HGSS Youngster http://i.imgur.com/ZzkAvMt.png
DP Lass http://i.imgur.com/aV9dhnI.png
HGSS Lass http://i.imgur.com/PPS8m1M.png
DP Bug Catcher http://i.imgur.com/JB0FyAf.png
HGSS Bug Catcher http://i.imgur.com/3jqtT94.png
Camper http://i.imgur.com/aaVNOj8.png
Picnicker http://i.imgur.com/TuaG333.png
DP Schoolkid Male http://i.imgur.com/rgnGBJE.png
Ninja Boy http://i.imgur.com/kCZMMnK.png
HGSS Swimmer Female http://i.imgur.com/wXobHwf.png
Fisherman http://i.imgur.com/pyzHft5.png
Worker http://i.imgur.com/cuorueA.png
HGSS Scientist http://i.imgur.com/jExfYL1.png
Pokemon Collector http://i.imgur.com/OPvKdBe.png
Firebreather http://i.imgur.com/RXL8J7K.png
Guitarist http://i.imgur.com/y1HyplQ.png
Rancher http://i.imgur.com/oyeypAK.png
Cowgirl http://i.imgur.com/BLu3HGG.png
Belle & Pa http://i.imgur.com/1GQC3W2.png
HGSS Gentleman http://i.imgur.com/WgQuxHB.png
Socialite http://i.imgur.com/m2nSgET.png
DP Ace Trainer Male (Snow) http://i.imgur.com/atmkPBq.png
HGSS Ace Trainer Male http://i.imgur.com/iD8pJxY.png
HGSS Ace Trainer Female http://i.imgur.com/4gqWEH0.png
HGSS Double Team http://i.imgur.com/fmJk0yH.png
Team Rocket Grunt Male http://i.imgur.com/lRrrII8.png
Team Rocket Grunt Female http://i.imgur.com/T3P0PUr.png
Petrel http://i.imgur.com/3OdqWq8.png
Proton http://i.imgur.com/T1vbJqo.png
Giovanni http://i.imgur.com/5Jm8DSB.png
Crasher Wake http://i.imgur.com/Ud2Y6p3.png
Falkner http://i.imgur.com/F7R522b.png
Clair http://i.imgur.com/Z2Kk9s4.png
Bruno http://i.imgur.com/kPRMw78.png

Gen V Sprites:

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Rosa http://i.imgur.com/ayeLHEm.png
Youngster http://i.imgur.com/5petvzv.png
Lass http://i.imgur.com/BF4lqnS.png
Schoolkid Male http://i.imgur.com/r196lPA.png
Schoolkid Female http://i.imgur.com/F2OCQ1K.png
Swimmer Male http://i.imgur.com/QGci1MC.png
Psychic Male http://i.imgur.com/dAMWRmg.png
Psychic Female http://i.imgur.com/ynOXVwT.png
Worker (Snow) http://i.imgur.com/QcH0qry.png
Rich Boy http://i.imgur.com/wIS3St4.png
Lady http://i.imgur.com/YptoDJW.png
Pokemon Ranger Male http://i.imgur.com/KRNezXy.png
Pokemon Ranger Female http://i.imgur.com/C2qC1B1.png
Guitarist http://i.imgur.com/pwLKsqe.png
Cyclist Male http://i.imgur.com/ahnnmVU.png
Cyclist Female http://i.imgur.com/lNPYpdn.png
Policeman http://i.imgur.com/HSfa9WA.png
Roxanne http://i.imgur.com/Zr6i5wY.png

If you are interested in contributing please read the information listed below!
Additionally general things to think about:

* DO NOT PM or VM me if you have submitted a sprite asking if I've seen it.
* If I do accept a sprite of yours, DO NOT PM or VM me asking when it'll be ready. The QC I make on the sprite can often take a while.

Contribution Information

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Before continuing with anything else I would look at these guidelines made by
Chaos, as they will allow you to sprite better, and to understand more about both this
and Chaos' resource.

http://www.pokecommunity.com/showpos...&postcount=503

Regarding Trainers from Gen IV and Gen V. As these sprites are more anatomically correct than
Gen III sprites, ie. longer limbs and smaller heads, I would recommend resizing anywhere between
80% and 90%, depending on the individual's pose and head sprite.

For sprites that are siginificantly taller, it may be necessary to shorten the arms and legs. For example
any pixer that is taller or wider than 75 pixels, rather than resizing at 80% it may be better to just shorten the sprites arms and legs by one or two pixels before resizing at 85%. Though this is generally not what one wants for Pokemon, it is acceptable for trainers as long as the trainer's head remains at a normal size.

That being said Giovanni has a large head anyway and still works when resized to 80%. So use your judgment.

Regarding revamped Gen III sprites, I'd recommend comparing between the original sprites and the revamps yourself to understand the shading style of Gen IV and V a bit better, as well as to understand what changes are acceptable.

Accepted Sprites:

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*Once a sprite is accepted I will add the contributor's name,
The Pokemon that was submitted, and whether it was the
Front or Back sprite.*

Credits:

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*MrDollSteak - Male Rocket Grunt, Female Rocket Grunt, Proton, Petrel and Giovanni.

*Rizon/Falsever - DP Lucas, Ethan, Rosa, Youngster Sprites, Lass Sprites, Bug Catcher Sprites, Schoolkid Male Sprites, HGSS Female Swimmer, Gen V Male Swimmer, Gen V Female Swimmer, Gen IV Worker, HGSS Male Ace Trainer, Falkner, Clair, Roxanne

*Sky High - Gen V Cyclist Sprites, HGSS Gentleman, Gen IV Guitarist, Gen V Guitarist, Gen V Pokemon Ranger Sprites, Gen V Rich Boy, DP Snow Ace Trainer, Bruno, Crasher Wake, Gen V Lady, Gen IV Camper, Gen IV Picnicker, Gen IV Fisherman, Gen IV Ninja Boy

*Spherical Ice - RSE Expert Sprite Revamps, FRLG Painter Revamp, Kindler Revamp, RSE Guitarist Revamp, FRLG Beauty Revamp, FRLG Twins Revamp

*Judai Yuki - Platinum Lucas

*Chrunch - Gen V Policeman

**Luxio//Hacks* - Gen V Psychic Male

Also, before anyone asks, you ARE allowed to use these for your hack, this is the entire
point of the resource! Just make sure you credit this thread if you do use any of the sprites.

Not ALL sprites are indexed in the imgur links, but eventually

Finally, check out Chaos' thread if you haven't already, to understand more about this resource!
http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=267728

 

[Falsever]

This is great Rizon! I'll post some contributions in a few days!
In the mean time, in terms of formatting, do you think it'd be easier
to set it out as the Trainer types and then after opening each one it'd
have all the relevant DS sprites?

Eg.
Youngster

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Thank you! I think it's better.
I'm looking forward for your contributions.
Good luck and make it great as always! :)

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[MrDollSteak]

My first of many contributions! The Male HGSS Rocket Grunt!

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I'll eventually update this one with all the other ones I make from Team Rocket,
I may do all the Execs. etc. Would be apt considering Apollo.

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Female Grunt

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Proton

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Petrel

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[Falsever]

My first of many contributions! The Male HGSS Rocket Grunt!

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I'll eventually update this one with all the other ones I make from Team Rocket,
I may do all the Execs. etc. Would be apt considering Apollo.

Wow, good job, it's very good!
But it still need to be edited, I see some errors on the sprite.
But don't worry, you'll still be credited!
By the way, good luck with Apollo!

Edit: Here's the edited one.

And Falkner!

 

[Chaos_Darkrai]

May I please request that Roxanne's B2W2 PWT sprite be done, along with Rosa's B2W2 sprite (Not the Wonder Launcher one) (The trainer card one)? You would have my deepest thanks if you did!!

 

[BonkersRider]

Here are three from the hack I am making.

"Norma", genderswap Norman.

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Rocker.

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Dragon Tamer:

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As for the one of Roxanne, you can never have enough of that cutie.

 

[Falsever]

Bad news, I've to restart all the sprites, because some of the trainer sprites can't fit into 64x64 square if you shrink them by 85%.
I tried to resize the biggest trainer sprite, Cue Ball by 81% and it fits 64x64.
So, all the sprites need to be resized by 81%.

Well, if that's too hard to fix, you can do this
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@2012maniac
I'll do it later, so be patient. :)

@BonkersRider
Those sprites aren't needed in the thread, sorry. :(

Edit: Roxanne's done, resized by 90% twice (81%).

 

[MrDollSteak]

Bad news, I've to restart all the sprites, because some of the trainer sprites can't fit into 64x64 square if you shrink them by 85%.
I tried to resize the biggest trainer sprite, Cue Ball by 81% and it fits 64x64.
So, all the sprites need to be resized by 81%.

Well, if that's too hard to fix, you can do this
1> Resize the sprite by 90% EVEN THE SPRITE IS ALREADY FITS IN 64x64 SQUARE.
2> Fix the sprite.
3> Resize the sprite again by 90%.
4> And fix the sprite again.
It's simple, but it can be frustrating. :(
But if you guys still want to use the old sprites which are resized by 85%, it'll be at the "Old Sprites".

The thing about resizing everything to 81% though, is that most sprites heads will be too small. I think 85% is actually better overall, and the ones that don't fit into that then should be done in that way. Because if you compare the head sizes of the 85% Bug Catcher to the head size of the FR Bug Catcher, you'll see its more similar.

 

[Elaitenstile]

The thing about resizing everything to 81% though, is that most sprites heads will be too small. I think 85% is actually better overall, and the ones that don't fit into that then should be done in that way. Because if you compare the head sizes of the 85% Bug Catcher to the head size of the FR Bug Catcher, you'll see its more similar.

You could always try for something in the middle. You see, suppose you're resizing a youngster or a bug catcher. You just need to find the dimensions of the FR bug catcher and find the proportions which would be suitable. I reckon it will be around 82-86%. Besides, if the head doesn't fit you could always steal the head from the FR source. Maybe they intentionally made the head bigger, who knows?

@Rizon - I'd really suggest comparing all the old sprites with a similar trainer from FRLG/RSE. That way you'd know which ones are still usable.

Oh yes, I may put some work into this later; I've always wanted Rodriguezjames's project to be complete, too.

EDIT - Just checked with the two old youngster sprites, and I have to say they're exactly (if not smaller) the same size as the FR youngster. Needless to say, they're still compatible.

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These two if you're wondering which.

 

[MrDollSteak]

You could always try for something in the middle. You see, suppose you're resizing a youngster or a bug catcher. You just need to find the dimensions of the FR bug catcher and find the proportions which would be suitable. I reckon it will be around 82-86%. Besides, if the head doesn't fit you could always steal the head from the FR source. Maybe they intentionally made the head bigger, who knows?

That's basically my point. I think 85% makes head sizes suitable. I don't think that making sprites the same size is necessary, its based upon more on relative size, which can be seen through limb length and head size, rather than the pose. Imagine if the Fire Red sprite was in the same pose as the Later dimension one what size would it be. Even then lots of the Fire Red trainer sprites has shorter limbs in relation to head size. Eg. Male Team Rocket Grunts, mainly due to spacial constraints I suppose. Also stealing heads is a bad idea, it ruins the integrity of the sprite.

 

[Falsever]

I think you're right, Bayer. 81% makes the head truly small.
I should redo Roxanne because the head is small too.
Thank you Hoenn and Bayer for the idea. :)
I'll edit the help guideline.

Edit: I'll edit your sprites now, Bayer, sorry for the delay. v_v
Edit: Edited!

 

[MrDollSteak]

I think you're right, Bayer. 81% makes the head truly small.
I should redo Roxanne because the head is small too.
Thank you Hoenn and Bayer for the idea. :)
I'll edit the help guideline.

Edit: I'll edit your sprites now, Bayer, sorry for the delay. v_v

No worries! But yeah I think 81% only when absolutely necessary such as with certain
gym leaders, Giovanni for example. Speaking of which, I made Giovanni. The head isn't as
small as other sprites are, probably because Giovanni is so big anyway, so it works fairly well.

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[BonkersRider]

The Roxanne sprite seems to have been deleted from imgur. :(


Good looking resized sprites can difficult to come by. So I'll offer up some other resized ones I've made.

Bird Keeper from HeartGold (indexed to the Bird Keeper from R/S/E).

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Dr. Fennel from B/W (not indexed).

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[Darkywyvern]

You clearly haven't resize the bird keeper... Well if you did it's still way too big especially when you consider his pose

 

[Falsever]

@Bayer
Great, I'll edit it soon. It looks very good. :D

@BonkersRider
Please read the help guideline before posting sprites here. v_v
I know you want to help, but I'm not accepting your sprites.
You didn't resize the Bird Keeper, and I don't want RSE palette.
And, Fennel, she looks squished, you just make her shorter to fit 64x64.

Also I deleted Roxanne from Imgur cos she was a failure sprite. I'll redo her soon.

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[Chaos_Darkrai]

Thank you very much for the sprites of Rosa and Roxanne and if you are unsure of what to do next you may ask me for suggestions. I always need good trainer sprites. Good luck, this resource has A LOT of potential.

 

[Falsever]

@2012maniac
Aww, thanks and you're welcome. :)
But, I already know what to do next.

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[Chaos_Darkrai]

Sorry if I am making too much requests, but i would also like the BW2 Clair sprite and the female psychic sprite from BW1/2. Thanks and as usual I would very much appreciate it.

 

[Falsever]

@2012maniac
I'll do them once I've a time. :)
Anyway, from now on, if you wanna request, just VM me, okay?
This isn't a request thread so I'm afraid the Moderator will close this thread.

 

[Chaos_Darkrai]

OK sounds good, and thanks for doing my requests. Sorry about that. From now on I will VM you my requests. :)