5th Gen The Generation Five Speculation Thread

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Redesigning Pokemon at this late a stage would be confusing and impossible. If Magmortar suddenly popped into Gen V with a slim figure and Elvis flame-hair, I would scream and run. Redesigning Pokemon has never happened, and probably never will. The spirtes can be slightly altered as the games go to make the Pokemon more stylish, look at the original green sprites, Mew looks like someone squeezed all of its organs into its head! (Also Rhyperior is already awesome :P)

Another point on Light typing, people have described it not as Light, a form of energy in a wave, but Light as in holy. That is an EXTREMELY bad idea!!! Pokemon is already a game that can be twisted to say that the main purpose is to capture demons and force them to kill each other in blood soaked match-ups for glory and money. So its pretty much demonic dog-fighting! Adding the Light-Type puts even more pressure on! Saying oh yes, they still battle each other, but they're sacred and holy now, Ampharos is definitely getting into heaven! That would KILL it! Nintendo got tons of bad press because Jynx had pure black skin. It wasnt a commentary of African-American people, it just looked good. Not only is Light unnecessary in a game, its also a legal hazard!
 
I was just naming some IV Generation Pokemon off the top of my head. Electivire is one of the few decent ones.

They really did ruin Rhyhorn by introducing Rhyperior...

In response to Cherri's argument brought forth- first off, trying to argue that the Psychic-type is too similar to the light type just isn't going to fly with me. Just look at the Dark-type in comparison to the Ghost-type. By connotation, they're both pretty similar. Heck, if the Dark-type was introduced in Generation I instead of the Ghost-type, then Ghost-type would seem superfluous.
 
Indeed, they wont redesign. Plus, it's not because some people hate the design of certain Pokemon that others do as well. I personally like the designs for Magmortar and Electivire, and even Rhyperior.
 
Eos Aduro said:
Redesigning Pokemon at this late a stage would be confusing and impossible. If Magmortar suddenly popped into Gen V with a slim figure and Elvis flame-hair, I would scream and run. Redesigning Pokemon has never happened, and probably never will. The spirtes can be slightly altered as the games go to make the Pokemon more stylish, look at the original green sprites, Mew looks like someone squeezed all of its organs into its head! (Also Rhyperior is already awesome :P)

Another point on Light typing, people have described it not as Light, a form of energy in a wave, but Light as in holy. That is an EXTREMELY bad idea!!! Pokemon is already a game that can be twisted to say that the main purpose is to capture demons and force them to kill each other in blood soaked match-ups for glory and money. So its pretty much demonic dog-fighting! Adding the Light-Type puts even more pressure on! Saying oh yes, they still battle each other, but they're sacred and holy now, Ampharos is definitely getting into heaven! That would KILL it! Nintendo got tons of bad press because Jynx had pure black skin. It wasnt a commentary of African-American people, it just looked good. Not only is Light unnecessary in a game, its also a legal hazard!
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I agree with everything he just said.


Come on people, THINK OF THE IMPACT IT WOULD HAVE TO THE FRANCHISE.
 
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I was just naming some IV Generation Pokemon off the top of my head. Electivire is one of the few decent ones.

They really did ruin Rhyhorn by introducing Rhyperior...

In response to Cherri's argument brought forth- first off, trying to argue that the Psychic-type is too similar to the light type just isn't going to fly with me. Just look at the Dark-type in comparison to the Ghost-type. By connotation, they're both pretty similar. Heck, if the Dark-type was introduced in Generation I instead of the Ghost-type, then Ghost-type would seem superfluous.
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I disagree with Ghost and Dark similarities. Nintendo has been really good about drawing a line. Other than common colors, they have MAY differences in a whole. All dark types are made to look solid, while ghosts are normally almost immaterial. They can both look sinister, but Dark is more of a tough, rebellious, angry sinister, while Ghost is a plotting, sly, devilish sinister. They dont have any similar body shapes either really! Ghosts are more blobular while Dark is normally based off of a real animal, something solid and predatory.

And I need to ask this question, WHY does Dark need a counter-type? Not a single other typing has a mirror image, with the exclusion of Water-Fire, and even that can be argued against. Dark is a perfectly good typing unaccompanied. Competitively in the games its a beautiful typing, immune to psychic, good offensively. Pokemon isnt about a black-white line that draws between the forces of good and evil. Mewtwo was a villain that turned good. Pokemon focuses on diversity, nature, and friendship. It doesnt need a vendetta between typings! (I have a fanfic planned where this happens, look out! Off topic, sorry). Dark isnt pictured as evil, and Pokemon that could fall under the Light type category arent always pictured as good. In Jirachi Wishmaker, Absol is a hero! Rotom could easily be Ghost-Light, and its a terrifying poltergeist! A new type isnt necessary!
 
Light doesn't mean that all Pokemon that are Light-type are "good" or "holy". For example, Togepi would most likely be a light type (the design for the Togepi family, Lati@s twins, and Froslass are extremely unique), but just like that one recent anime episode, that Togepi was the devil.

Dark dominates way too much in battle. The only weaknesses it has are fighting and bug. Bug doesn't make much sense to me why it would be a weakness to Dark (I can understand for Psychic, but that's another story).
 
Kirbychu has a point, but all the redesigning was from the first generation, where the kinks were still being worked through. Look at Butterfree and Venomoth, the make more sense mixed, especially Venonat-Butterfree, they have the same eyes, feet, color, and anetennae.

Redesigning at this point would have to be so minor that it could be easily overlooked, like maybe slightly altering Electivires hair so it looks less beardy.

EDIT: Your argument is pretty much void there. Normal is only weak to fighting, and is immune to ghost, so therefore its dominant? Snorlax, Blissey, and Togekiss I believe are the only normals in OU. And Light is based off of design? What makes Togepi Light type then? It has no source of illumination, or any aspect of it makes it look angelic. Togekiss looks slightly angelic, but you said its not based off of it looking holy. So, all cute Pokemon are Light type?
 
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False. A lot of Pokemon have gotten the minor change I was talking about.

Pikachu's Belly Pattern and Weight
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Mew's Feet
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Arbok's Stripes
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And we all know about Jinx.
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Well they won't redesign anything else it would be stupid to redesign some pokemon from last generation that actually looked great.
 
Oh yes, I should bring up this suggestion while we are on the topic of Pokemon designs.

It would be nice if they abandoned the shiny system and replaced it with a "variant" system. Shinies have became too overrated recently, but their rarity may still continue with the variant system.

The variant system would be multiple differences in the same species of Pokemon. For example, the notched-ear pichu would be a variant for a pichu. The chances of finding a Pokemon with a certain variant will usually not be as drastic as it was to find a shiny, but it would still be worthwhile to find the variant that you want.

More examples of variants:
Arbok and Shellos/Gastrodon (obvious for regional differences)
Unown (obvious again)
Gardevoir's Hairstyle
Shell of Shelder/Cloyster
Markings on Natu/Xatu

If breeding isn't tampered with, then I'd like to see individual sprites for eggs.
 
^I like this idea though. It really does make alot of sense and adds another aspect to the game. It's no crucial to the games itself but it's little things like this that make me love pokemon.

My point in the other thread exactly. Light just isn't needed and doesn't make sense. It can be re-created by so many other typings and has no point in balancing the metagame. Dark and steel were added to end Alakazam's reign of terror. That isn't an issue anymore.
 
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They may eventually add a Air Type/Wind Type. In fact, most Japanese mythology have something to do with air. Either that, or I'm watching to much Naruto.
 
^Though flying isn't the same, the typing really covers this. There's a better chance they'd just re-name the type.

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This is the best

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I don't think any fourth generation pokemon have that problem. :P Alot of the first generation pokemon look nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing, like their pokemon green counterparts. :P
 
I'm just saying it's possible because it's much more plausible than Sound/Light.

Besides, it's the only thing I can think of that fits with Smoke of any sort without being too nerdy.

Anyways, that has nothing to do with anything. If, they can make Solrock and Lunatone...

What does that have with anything?
 
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Seriously what is with people always saying there will be new types. I mean we don't need them 17 is enough.
 
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