The hardest Gym Leader from each gen

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    What is the hardest gym leader from each Gen? (Remakes DON'T count)

    Gen 1:
    Gym 1 - Brock
    Gym 2 - Misty
    Gym 3 - Lt. Surge
    Gym 4 - Erika
    Gym 5 - Sabrina
    Gym 6 - Koga
    Gym 7 - Blaine
    Gym 8 - Giovanni

    Gen 2:
    Gym 1 - Falkner
    Gym 2 - Bugsy
    Gym 3 - Whitney
    Gym 4 - Morty
    Gym 5 - Chuck
    Gym 6 - Jasmine
    Gym 7 - Pryce
    Gym 8 - Clair

    Gen 3:
    Gym 1 - Roxanne
    Gym 2 - Brawly
    Gym 3 - Wattson
    Gym 4 - Flannery
    Gym 5 - Norman
    Gym 6 - Winona
    Gym 7 - Tate & Liza
    Gym 8 - Wallace (R/S) Jaun (Emerald)

    Gen 4:
    Gym 1 - Roark
    Gym 2 - Gardenia
    Gym 3 - Maylene (D/P) Fantina (Platinum)
    Gym 4 - Crasher Wake (D/P) Maylene (Platinum)
    Gym 5 - Fantina (D/P) Crasher Wake (Platinum)
    Gym 6 - Byron
    Gym 7 - Candice
    Gym 8 - Volkner

    Gen 5:
    Gym 1 - Cilan/Chili/Cress
    Gym 2 - Lenora
    Gym 3 - Burgh
    Gym 4 - Elesa
    Gym 5 - Clay
    Gym 6 - Skyla
    Gym 7 - Brycen
    Gym 8 - Draydon (Black) Iris (White)

    My Votes:
    Gen 1 - Blaine
    Gen 2 - Whitney/Clair
    Gen 3 - Norman
    Gen 4 - Candice
    Gen 5 - Draydon/Lenora
     
    Depends each time and which pokemon I have. Typically though:

    I : Koga
    II: Clair
    III: Norman
    IV: Gardenia
    V: Burgh
     
    Just like the guy above me, it depends on who I have but mostly.

    1:Sabrina
    2:Whitney
    3:Flannery
    4:Wake(D/P), Fantina(Platinum)
    5:Iris/Drayden
     
    I only played the remakes of Gens I and II, so I'll just do Gens III-V:

    Gen III: Norman (why did he have to have 2 underleveled Slaking in Emerald?)

    Gen IV: Fantina, I guess

    Gen V: Elesa (her Volt Switching Emolga were annoying)
     
    I. Koga, however Brock was always a pain in Yellow.
    II. Whitney by far, for her obvious Miltank lol.
    III. Norman, cause even with Truant, Slaking is just hard to beat.
    IV. Sorry but I don't even remember these. I'm just gonna go with the one that I remember the most which is Fantina.
    V. Doubting between Lenora and Clay, they were both hard but it really depended on the Pokémon you'd have with you!
     
    Gen 1 - Sabrina due to Alakazam
    Gen 2 - Clair due to Kingdra
    Gen 3 - Tate & Liza in Emerald due to Claydol constantly spamming Earthquake and Xatu spamming Psychic for starters.
    Gen 4 - Maylene because her Lucario was quite the pain in the ass to take down back then.
    Gen 5 - Lenora without any doubt in my mind, I really did not like being OHKO'ed by that damn Herdier's Take Down whenever I was so close to killing that retarded little flea bag, even my Pignite had trouble with that thing at the time but thank god I scored a critical hit on one of the Arm Thrusts which took it out only to have the Watchog but that wasn't as tough as the Herdier IMO even with Hypnosis and Crunch.
     
    It more or less depends on the team I have at the time of facing the gym leader, really. But I'll just list who I usually have trouble with, despite my team set up.

    Gen I: Misty
    Gen II: Chuck
    Gen III: Brawly
    Gen IV: Maylene
    Gen V: CCC/Clay

    Noticing a pattern here...lol lern 2 psychic, syd.
     
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    My votes-

    I. None (I haven't played RBY, and I didn't find any of them too threatening in FRLG)

    II. Clair (Whitney is overrated, the female Machop you can get in a trade in Goldenrod can easily handle Miltank as it is immune to Attract and resists Rollout)

    III. Liza and Tate, cause I challenged them severely unprepared.

    IV. None (really).

    V. Drayden.
     
    Yea, it generally depends on my team. Usually i have a fire type (My fave type) so Brock was always a trouble for me.....
    Side Note: Try playing nuzlocke with Charmander in R/B/Y
    IMPOSSIBLE :cer_pissed:
     
    Yea, it generally depends on my team. Usually i have a fire type (My fave type) so Brock was always a trouble for me.....
    Side Note: Try playing nuzlocke with Charmander in R/B/Y
    IMPOSSIBLE :cer_pissed:

    I see your point. I played Firered with Squirtle, so Brock was quite easy.

    I think at least the 1st pokemon gym of every game should be of a type that is neutral to all 3 starters. Yes, if the gym is of a biased type, it lets you modify the game's difficulty by choosing different starters. But most people just want to use the starter they like, and I think they should all be provided with an equal challenge . So I think the 1st gym of a game should be of Normal, Fighting, Dark, etc types, types which are not exceptionally weak or strong against a particular starter.
     
    For me it was;

    Gen I - Koga (Mainly fr/lg) Erika had like level 31 Pokemon, it's a big jump from that to 44. Of in RBY with a Level 50
    Gen II - Whitney... that. damn. Miltank. Rollout. Nuff' said.
    Gen III - Norman - Slaking. Slaking. Slaking. Those ugly boobs made me lose all the time.
    Gen IV - I didn't really have a tough time with any of them, but I guess Gardenia - Like I said not much trouble, but I guess her Roserade was quite fast and strong.
    Gen V - Lenora - Her gross Watchog. How was it soooo fast?!

    I guess I should use Fighting types more often. :x But seriously, who has a Level 31 Slaking? >:
     
    I: Sabrina, the psychic woman. I remember I had a lot of difficulties to beat her.
    II: Clair, the dragon goddess. 2nd gen gym leaders aren't really tough I think, and she's the only one that gave me trouble.
    III: Norman, the daddy. Because I had'nt any fighting types and his Pokémon have very high defense/special defense stats.

    IV:
    Volkner, the master of electrik types. Seriously; 4th gen gym leaders weren't hard at all... And I choose him only because I have to choose someone, otherwise he didn't give me trouble.
    V: Draydon, the dragon expert. Without any ice type it was a little difficult to beat his Pokémons.
     
    None of the 4 regions gave me any problems.

    Just Elesa since it was either her Volt Switching Emolgas or her Zebstrika.

    Now I'm kicking myself because I soon learned I could've gotten a Palpitoad before I reached Nimbasa -_-;;
     
    If remakes don't count, I'm going to go with my first playthrough of a game.

    Gen 1:
    Gym 1 - Brock: Brock was hard in Yellow because all I had was Pikachu when I first battled him.
    Gym 5 - Sabrina: Since psychic types didn't really have much of a weakness in Gen I (you can say Gastly, Haunter, and Gengar, but since they're part poison, throw a psychic at them and they'll faint easily), she was really hard.

    Gen 2:
    Gym 3 - Whitney: Underestimating normal type Pokémon round 1. Miltank was just a powerhouse.

    Gen 3:
    Gym 5 - Norman: Underestimating normal type Pokémon round 2. That Slacking was just as much of a powerhouse as Miltank.


    Gen 4:
    Gym 3 - Maylene: I didn't know Lucario's typing when I first battled it in Diamond, so I lost to it a lot before finally going to look it up.

    Gen 5:
    Gym 2 - Lenora: Underestimating normal type Pokémon round 3. Retaliation and that powerhouse of a Herdier combination is deadly.
     
    Gen I: Probably Misty, especially on my first couple of playthroughs where I'd only use my starter, Charmander. Brock wasn't too difficult, but Misty and her Starmie always gave me trouble.
    Gen II: Whitney, 'nuff said.
    Gen III: Norman and his Slaking gave me the most trouble, IIRC. I can remember strugling against Wallace/Juan a lot too, although not so much.
    Gen IIII: I remember Gardenia giving me a bit of trouble (I picked Piplup, can you see a pattern now? XP) I can't remember much about D/P/Pl, to be honest. :s
    Gen IIII: Ah, this is easy. Clay. Seriously, every other Gym leader was a breeze, and th ONLY one I lost against was Clay. I think I lost twice, actually.
     
    Gen 1: Haven't played
    Gen 2: Haven't played
    Gen 3: Tate and Liza
    Gen 4: Byron
    Gen 5: Burgh
     
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