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5th Gen The Isshu Region

XEL

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    rocky505 said:
    you do realize there are real world countries in the pokemon world. They have mentioned South America in the games and the anime. I believe they also mentioned Antarctica.
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    Proof? And simply taking the name of an area and naming something in a fictional piece does not make it the same thing. I can take China and rename it The United States of America. I can have Australia be called Soviet Russia. Catchin' my drift here?
     
    Iceshadow3317

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    I think they have also mentioned New Jersey in The first movie. While Ash Misty and Broke are on the speed boat with team rocket dressed like vikings going to Mewtwo's island.
     

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    XEL said:
    Proof? And simply taking the name of an area and naming something in a fictional piece does not make it the same thing. I can take China and rename it The United States of America. I can have Australia be called Soviet Russia. Catchin' my drift here?
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    South America is mentioned at the beginning of the first movie and it is mentioned in Cinnabar Mansion on RGBY FRLG.
     

    XEL

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    Hmmm.... right you are. Not to make an argument with my following statement but: Is this just in the US version? What was the original Japanese version?
     

    XEL

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    True.. Then I'm afraid Pokemon has several generations left... They have yet to introduce this "America." I feel these are simply minor details that Gamefreak and Nintendo are going to overlook however. And If you knew this piece of info, why didn't you just present it as your argument earlier?

    Lt. Surge = From America
    America=/=Isshu
     
    Iceshadow3317

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    I think it may be America now. Look at the new scans.

    areas very in the game you get. 1 looks futuristic and the other looks like stone building which is what Native Americans had.

    Oh ya.

    The Japan Theroy is now smashed in to pieces.
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    "Pikachu, I don't think we are in Japan any more........."
     
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    XEL

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    Well, considering rocky's arguments, I doubt it'd be America now. There'd be no reason to call it Isshu if it was since they've already stated a gym leader was from this so-called "America."
     
    BeachBoy

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    Just a thought: with Hoenn's real world representative, was there a dessert in the same area? What other region features do their real world counterparts also have?
     
    Kirbychu

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    BeachBoy said:
    Just a thought: with Hoenn's real world representative, was there a dessert in the same area? What other region features do their real world counterparts also have?
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    I found this Bulbapedia page interesting.

    I agree with the Isshu region being based off New York. Hiun City, the shape of Isshu, and another Route 1 just do it for me.

    And about America already being mentioned in the games, it's not like they can't retcon that. Isshu isn't even America, technically it's only a part of America if it's based off New York.
     
    BeachBoy

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    Kirbychu said:
    I found this Bulbapedia page interesting.

    I agree with the Isshu region being based off New York. Hiun City, the shape of Isshu, and another Route 1 just do it for me.

    And about America already being mentioned in the games, it's not like they can't retcon that. Isshu isn't even America, technically it's only a part of America if it's based off New York.
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    Brilliant, thanks Kirb.

    What I was thinking with that question, was, say the feature-similarities weren't abundant: outline does match New York, but some features don't exactly match up. Which makes Isshu interesting.
     

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    XEL said:
    True.. Then I'm afraid Pokemon has several generations left... They have yet to introduce this "America." I feel these are simply minor details that Gamefreak and Nintendo are going to overlook however. And If you knew this piece of info, why didn't you just present it as your argument earlier?

    Lt. Surge = From America
    America=/=Isshu
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    Lt. Surge lives in Kanto but it doesnt mean he is from there. Isshu is seeming more and more like America. Heck the American pokemon (wooguru) is native there.

    XEL said:
    Well, considering rocky's arguments, I doubt it'd be America now. There'd be no reason to call it Isshu if it was since they've already stated a gym leader was from this so-called "America."
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    It seems like "Regions" and "Countries" could be different in the Pokemon World. Kanto and Johto are Regions but they are part of the Country of Japan.

    America could be a country in the pokemon world with the region of Isshu inside of it.
     
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    Mana1

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    I don't get why people are saying Kanto and Johto are part of Japan in game. They do resemble their real life counterparts a lot, however that doesn't mean they make up the same country (and overall landmass shape) as the real world.

    America (Lt Surge) was probably mentioned simply for the stereotype of his character, saying he was from [insert another place in Pokéworld] would have been meaningless.

    Fantina is stereotypically French in the anime, but I really doubt we'll be getting a french region any time soon.

    Therefore I still think that Isshu is NOT America. It has influences from lots of different places, just like the other regions.

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    Interestingly, LaRousse City (From the Deoxys movie) is based on Vancouver. However it is situated north of Hoenn, not far far away in 'America'.
     
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