5th Gen Third Game Speculation

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

All the rest failed...what are they Test tube babies?!...
There was a rumor that it meant North...maybe a reference to how the brothers split Unova into two possibly North and South Unova...

 

[MrGriszell]

N's probably not the first of Ghetsis' sons and daughters, maybe.

Maybe N just remarks that he's the 14th child, all the rest failed.

yea and maybe N summons all of his siblings. LOl sounds like pokemon is gonna have a Reunion final fantasy 7 style. If i find out ghetsis children were fused with pokemon blood im gonna freak....maybe thats why N can hear pokemon because he has some in his blood. LOL that would be crazy but i doubt pokemon would ever make a story like that

 

[conesorcups]

True. I think that the third game will have a similar relationship to b&w like platinum did to d&p. It depends though.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

I think Gf will surprise us in something amazing in the third version...call it a gut feeling...

 

[Perriechu]

I still think that the theory I found will be used; well not entirely but ideas and such.

Spoiler:

According to Shaga and Iris, Reshiram and Zekrom were originally one dragon who served two twin brothers and helped them lead their nation to peace and prosperity. With time, however, the brothers began to fight with one another over whose beliefs were correct: the older brother sought truth, while the younger sought ideals. The original dragon split into two: Reshiram, the white dragon of truth, and Zekrom, the black dragon of ideals. Eventually, though, they realized that both of them could be correct and stopped the fighting for a time. However, their sons rekindled the conflict again, and Reshiram and Zekrom destroyed Isshu before disappearing.

Now, onto how this relates to Kyurem. You may have noticed that it appears to be "broken"; its wings are cracked, one is smaller than the other, and its body appears frail. In addition, its base stat total is lower than Reshiram and Zekrom's; 660 compared to their 680. And, finally, unlike them, it doesn't learn an attack at level 100; however, there are two unused attacks in the game, called Cold Flare and Freeze Bolt, that appear to be intended for Kyurem and relate to Reshiram and Zekrom.

My theory is that Kyurem is the broken remnants of that original dragon that split into Reshiram and Zekrom. In the third version, it will receive a new form, much like Giratina did in Platinum, which will increase its base stat total and allow it to learn Cold Flare and Freeze Bolt. One thing that struck me about Kyurem is its species name: it's the Feelings Pokemon, which seemed utterly random at first. But now I realize that it's intended to symbolize the feelings that the two brothers held for each other.

So, here's what the game's finale would be like. N succeeds in awakening both Reshiram and Zekrom and takes them for himself. All hope seems lost, but Shaga and Iris reveal the existence of a third dragon that N doesn't know about: Kyurem. You eventually receive the God Stone (which is an unused item in Black/White; pretty clear that it's intended to be used in the third version) and go to the Pokemon League. There, you find that N has defeated Adeku and is on the brink of using his dragons' power to create his black and white world, dividing humanity and Pokemon.

The player confronts N, and the God Stone activates, awakening Kyurem. N is shocked at first, but then he realizes that it's only a remnant and he wonders if these faded feelings can possibly defeat truth and ideals. Cue...uh, something happening, and Kyurem somehow transforms into its true form. You fight a double battle against Reshiram and Zekrom and the rest of N's team, you fight Geechisu, blah blah blah, N releases the dragons for you to capture later, happy ending and stuff.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

I still think that the theory I found will be used; well not entirely but ideas and such.

Spoiler:

According to Shaga and Iris, Reshiram and Zekrom were originally one dragon who served two twin brothers and helped them lead their nation to peace and prosperity. With time, however, the brothers began to fight with one another over whose beliefs were correct: the older brother sought truth, while the younger sought ideals. The original dragon split into two: Reshiram, the white dragon of truth, and Zekrom, the black dragon of ideals. Eventually, though, they realized that both of them could be correct and stopped the fighting for a time. However, their sons rekindled the conflict again, and Reshiram and Zekrom destroyed Isshu before disappearing.

Now, onto how this relates to Kyurem. You may have noticed that it appears to be "broken"; its wings are cracked, one is smaller than the other, and its body appears frail. In addition, its base stat total is lower than Reshiram and Zekrom's; 660 compared to their 680. And, finally, unlike them, it doesn't learn an attack at level 100; however, there are two unused attacks in the game, called Cold Flare and Freeze Bolt, that appear to be intended for Kyurem and relate to Reshiram and Zekrom.

My theory is that Kyurem is the broken remnants of that original dragon that split into Reshiram and Zekrom. In the third version, it will receive a new form, much like Giratina did in Platinum, which will increase its base stat total and allow it to learn Cold Flare and Freeze Bolt. One thing that struck me about Kyurem is its species name: it's the Feelings Pokemon, which seemed utterly random at first. But now I realize that it's intended to symbolize the feelings that the two brothers held for each other.

So, here's what the game's finale would be like. N succeeds in awakening both Reshiram and Zekrom and takes them for himself. All hope seems lost, but Shaga and Iris reveal the existence of a third dragon that N doesn't know about: Kyurem. You eventually receive the God Stone (which is an unused item in Black/White; pretty clear that it's intended to be used in the third version) and go to the Pokemon League. There, you find that N has defeated Adeku and is on the brink of using his dragons' power to create his black and white world, dividing humanity and Pokemon.

The player confronts N, and the God Stone activates, awakening Kyurem. N is shocked at first, but then he realizes that it's only a remnant and he wonders if these faded feelings can possibly defeat truth and ideals. Cue...uh, something happening, and Kyurem somehow transforms into its true form. You fight a double battle against Reshiram and Zekrom and the rest of N's team, you fight Geechisu, blah blah blah, N releases the dragons for you to capture later, happy ending and stuff.

I think a lot of us expect just that to happen ^_^
I wonder though...will there be a twist like the Player is descended from a possible third brother or something...

 

[Perriechu]

Yeah pretty much predictability ftw :/

Although I doubt GF would do that; the player never has that much of an important role, well he does, but not being tied to the legend \: Were normally just the choosen one u_u

 

[Lucario1234]

Maybe what will happen is N will bring both the Light and Dark stones to Ghetis and then he decides to summon both of the dragons only to try to combine them back into the one pokemon they once were, somehow without telling N. However N doesn't agree with this and he tells the player that he overheard Iris and Shaga talking a about a third being who makes sure that R/Z stay separated as evil cannot exist without good. He decided not to tell his father incase something like this would happen. You then go with N to capture Kyurem to stop Ghetsis from combing the two. Once you have caught Kyurem you take it to N's Castle to stop Ghetsis, you now battle him and defeat him. (Of Course) However when you're about to use Kyurem to stop all of this, Kyruem starts to be combined into the one being as well. N then tells you that if you use the Power of the Light, Dark and God stone you can stop this, which you do. Afterwards Ghetsis looks at his son with shame and then realises that he looked a lot different then he used to revealing that N is actually from the future were Ghetsis managed to create the one being. The N from this time is actually travelling the Hoeen region. N now has to leave and Ghetsis is arrested. N is then wiped from existence. The credits then roll.

It is a bit unusual however that is one of my ideas.

 

[Perriechu]

Maybe what will happen is N will bring both the Light and Dark stones to Ghetis and then he decides to summon both of the dragons only to try to combine them back into the one pokemon they once were, somehow without telling N. However N doesn't agree with this and he tells the player that he overheard Iris and Shaga talking a about a third being who makes sure that R/Z stay separated as evil cannot exist without good. He decided not to tell his father incase something like this would happen. You then go with N to capture Kyurem to stop Ghetsis from combing the two. Once you have caught Kyurem you take it to N's Castle to stop Ghetsis, you now battle him and defeat him. (Of Course) However when you're about to use Kyurem to stop all of this, Kyruem starts to be combined into the one being as well. N then tells you that if you use the Power of the Light, Dark and God stone you can stop this, which you do. Afterwards Ghetsis looks at his son with shame and then realises that he looked a lot different then he used to revealing that N is actually from the future were Ghetsis managed to create the one being. The N from this time is actually travelling the Hoeen region. N now has to leave and Ghetsis is arrested. N is then wiped from existence. The credits then roll.

It is a bit unusual however that is one of my ideas.

That was a good idea until the N wiped from existence;; N actually tries to make things right at the end, when you beat him, for the rest however, that shall wait until BW comes out in English ;D

 

[MrGriszell]

I thought kyurem came from outer space? And i dont see how if the 2 dragons are seperated why would there be a body left over? And i dont see why N would get both dragons. Maybe N looses control of the dragon he has because it wants to fight the other one and kyurem is like ryqaza and has to calm them down.

 

[インフェルノの津波]

Maybe Kyurem was...you know, thrown into space as garbage? I mean, it is probable that Zek and Res just threw it away but I guess it can back.

 

[MrGriszell]

What i figure kyurem doesnt have to be part of the dragons past to be part of the main story in the 3rd game. In the first gen none of the legendary pokemon had any conection to another besides the fact that they were just together.( not including mew and mewtwo)

 

[sqwat500]

Im hoping for an ice hockey trainer class. A bunch of other sports got love, why not Ice hockey?

 

[Perriechu]

I thought kyurem came from outer space?

Were did that theory come from? ;o Only Genosect came from space.

And i dont see how if the 2 dragons are seperated why would there be a body left over?

Reshiram and Zekrom were originally one dragon, but split into two because the brothers had different believes,

And i dont see why N would get both dragons. Maybe N looses control of the dragon he has because it wants to fight the other one and kyurem is like ryqaza and has to calm them down.

N could aquire both stones, Kyurem is an empty shell to put it into words; it's not like Rayquaza who's the boss over Kyogre and Groudon, Kyurem is Reshiram and Zekrom, just an empty shell though... ;o;

 

[MrGriszell]

Its stated that kyurem is from space in the game

If the 2 dragons split why would they leave a body(kyurem) behind

And i dont think pokemon can be empty shells. And if Kyurem is the body of the 2 dragons how would it count as being a sperate part of the trio. I dont think they ever did something like that in pokemon and i hope they dont.

 

[インフェルノの津波]

I think all of you fail to realize that this is Pokemon we're talking about, the same game where you can turn 10 and be a animal trainer.

It's not to Farfetch'd for Zek and Res to leave bodies.

 

[MrGriszell]

I think all of you fail to realize that this is Pokemon we're talking about, the same game where you can turn 10 and be a animal trainer.

It's not to Farfetch'd for Zek and Res to leave bodies.

well the game always keep to the same level of farfetchd. But if they did leave a body why wasnt it included in the story. Im pretty sure if the bothers were fighting for power they would of tried to get the original body , i mean 2 dragons are better than one. I just dont see it being the case.
Theres really no proof to really support this( of course there really none to discard it either) but kyurem has its story kinda explained in the game. (it came on a metor and its suspected to eat children and pokemon from the nearest town lol)

 

[King Gumball]

well the game always keep to the same level of farfetchd. But if they did leave a body why wasnt it included in the story. Im pretty sure if the bothers were fighting for power they would of tried to get the original body , i mean 2 dragons are better than one. I just dont see it being the case.
Theres really no proof to really support this( of course there really none to discard it either) but kyurem has its story kinda explained in the game.

Maybe Reshiram and Zekrom are like the souls that were taken from Kyuremu's body, like the ying and Yang were taken out of Kyeremu. and maybe they didn't ry to get Hyeremu because he is useless in that damaged form. I think this point is pretty reasonable, I mean pokemon evolve and change form don't they? Maybe Kyuremu's new form will be what it originally was with Reshiram and Zekrom completing him.

(it came on a metor and its suspected to eat children and pokemon from the nearest town lol)

That would just be an in-game pokemon folk story XD kinda like fairytales here.

 

[MrGriszell]

Maybe Reshiram and Zekrom are like the souls that were taken from Kyuremu's body, like the ying and Yang were taken out of Kyeremu. and maybe they didn't ry to get Hyeremu because he is useless in that damaged form. I think this point is pretty reasonable, I mean pokemon evolve and change form don't they? Maybe Kyuremu's new form will be what it originally was with Reshiram and Zekrom completing him.

That would just be an in-game pokemon folk story XD kinda like fairytales here.

yes pokemon has had different forms but never one that acts as a seperated pokemon.

And arent all the legends of legendary pokemon just in game folk story?

 

[インフェルノの津波]

Their legends and myths? Probably.

Their actual existence? Not so much. I mean, it's a known fact that legendaries exist in the Pokemon world, they're basically just ultra-rare Pokemon with stronger abilities. Most legendaries protect something as well, so their power is really, really extensive, so that's where the legends start up.

But mostly their stories are true, though I'm curious as to how the Professors managed to put Pokedex entries with that kind of information, but that's for another time.

But still, we can't deny Kyurem is lesser than what it was today. And I'm curious on the whole "Truth and Ideals" matter with Zek and Res. I wonder, what's Kyurem's part in that, what's the opposite or the greater goal of those two ideas?