6th Gen Third Version Speculation

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WingsofBliss said:
And Nintendo is not the one who makes the main series games, Game Freak is.
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Game Freak can literally make 50 complete Pokèmon games and UNLESS Nintendo wants to RELEASE them, it's irrelevant. Game Freak does not release games, Nintendo does. I do not think Nintendo plans on releasing any Pokèmon game for 3DS when they "just" announced the first ever Pokèmon APP for Smartphones. Pokèmon GO is the newest thing. Release a new handheld game and no one will ever talk about GO. That simple.
 
When it comes to all of the speculation that these leaks have spawned, I'm adopting more of a 'wait and see' approach when it comes to source validity. What we've seen so far in terms of possible new information could turn out to be entirely true, completely false, or anywhere in between. Given that SuperMetalDave64 has stated in his videos that he has been participating in the discussions on NeoGAF and appears to be relatively level-headed when it has come to his releasing information, I am, at an intellectual level, tentatively inclined to prepare myself for official verification of at least some parts of his scoop. I will admit, though, that my gut wants a new Pokémon game to be announced by Game Freak alongside any other content Nintendo might choose to showcase in the next Direct, which I can't wait for much longer, even though I haven't really been quite as engaged in the franchise these past couple of generations as I was back in Generations III and IV! In any case, something good is bound to happen soon, right?
 
willprogresivo said:
Game Freak can literally make 50 complete Pokèmon games and UNLESS Nintendo wants to RELEASE them, it's irrelevant. Game Freak does not release games, Nintendo does. I do not think Nintendo plans on releasing any Pokèmon game for 3DS when they "just" announced the first ever Pokèmon APP for Smartphones. Pokèmon GO is the newest thing. Release a new handheld game and no one will ever talk about GO. That simple.
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This is a pretty stupid thing to say. We have no idea how GO will play or really anything about it. To assume it will kill the main series is clearly stupid to say. Don't be one of those people that thing mobile is taking over gaming when it really is not. GO could be great and very big but it won't take over the main series. If anything it will coexist from what has been said.
 
WingsofBliss said:
"Baseless"? Zygarde Formes and Magearna say hi...
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It's not like he's entirely wrong. We honestly have very little real real information to go off of for anything, and it's been that way for a while..
 
Why some people want all regions?.. just adding World Tournament is enough..
doesn't work anyway.. the elite four would have like lv20 lol..

Two or one game continuation of XY+ that awesome possible leaked new Pokemon list+ PWT+ Emerald Battle Frontier. That's a great 20th anniversary game.
 
willprogresivo said:
Game Freak can literally make 50 complete Pokèmon games and UNLESS Nintendo wants to RELEASE them, it's irrelevant. Game Freak does not release games, Nintendo does. I do not think Nintendo plans on releasing any Pokèmon game for 3DS when they "just" announced the first ever Pokèmon APP for Smartphones. Pokèmon GO is the newest thing. Release a new handheld game and no one will ever talk about GO. That simple.
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I think that GO will at least dominate the first half of the year. With a main game being the big thing for the second half. I don't think that GO will get much attention anyways, it's a spin off, even if it is on mobile.
 
Poke_Spirit said:
Why some people want all regions?.. just adding World Tournament is enough..
doesn't work anyway.. the elite four would have like lv20 lol..

Two or one game continuation of XY+ that awesome possible leaked new Pokemon list+ PWT+ Emerald Battle Frontier. That's a great 20th anniversary game.
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I would rather have a stand alone game myself for the 20th over a follow up to XY. Would be interesting to see the first gen with no 3rd game
 
Nekaku said:
I would rather have a stand alone game myself for the 20th over a follow up to XY. Would be interesting to see the first gen with no 3rd game
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Might as well end Gen VI.

Btw, perhaps Pokemon Niji will be two games. Originally GS were called by the codename Pokémon X, and later Pokémon 2. But I think they leaker said it's one...could be misleading if not fake. If it's a pair then perhaps it can be the next generation.
 
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire said:
Might as well end Gen VI.

Btw, perhaps Pokemon Niji will be two games. Originally GS were called by the codename Pokémon X, and later Pokémon 2. But I think they leaker said it's one...could be misleading if not fake. If it's a pair then perhaps it can be the next generation.
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I hope the mindset of having to do two of the same region games is destroyed tbh. I would not mind if it was sequels but the concept of 3rd versions seems pretty meh. Almost like a cop out for making the first versions not have as much content. Though it would be very interesting if this new game is stand alone. Would make Gen 6 very diverse. As said a few days ago I would be ok with them making Niji one last hurrah and a full on reboot with Gen 7.
 
willprogresivo said:
Game Freak can literally make 50 complete Pokèmon games and UNLESS Nintendo wants to RELEASE them, it's irrelevant. Game Freak does not release games, Nintendo does. I do not think Nintendo plans on releasing any Pokèmon game for 3DS when they "just" announced the first ever Pokèmon APP for Smartphones. Pokèmon GO is the newest thing. Release a new handheld game and no one will ever talk about GO. That simple.
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I don't think that's quite how things would work, to be honest. B2W2 released in 2012, and so did Pokémon Conquest. And both sold well--they weren't actually competing with each other. And Go, being a free-to-play mobile game, will most likely be competing even less with a new main-series game on a Nintendo handheld system. Although they're both Pokémon games, it's almost like comparing apples to oranges. And since, at this rate, it seems likely that Go would release before any new main-series game, it would work out even moreso since Go would release first and therefore people would get it first and not have to worry about it later. And even if it was the other way around, it would still be fine because Go is free-to-play.

Announcing a new game won't kill the hype for Go. The only thing that will kill the hype for it is, in my honest opinion, if they reveal that the microtransactions are just as awful as the ones in Pokémon Picross. Actually, now that I think about it, releasing Go first and then a new main-series game later in the year could actually benefit them far more than I had anticipated. If they use Go to try and broaden the appeal for the series (bringing in new fans and re-capturing old ones), they will then have a bigger potential audience for the upcoming main-series game. It actually works very well in their favor.

(And just for the record, although this doesn't affect the argument much, Go isn't the first ever Pokémon app for smartphones. When referring to apps, you have the PokéDex 3D app. With games, you have Pokémon Shuffle Mobile.)
 
Nekaku said:
I hope the mindset of having to do two of the same region games is destroyed tbh. I would not mind if it was sequels but the concept of 3rd versions seems pretty meh. Almost like a cop out for making the first versions not have as much content. Though it would be very interesting if this new game is stand alone. Would make Gen 6 very diverse. As said a few days ago I would be ok with them making Niji one last hurrah and a full on reboot with Gen 7.
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Personally I think Gen V or IV should've been the last hurrah. This current gen could've been a full reboot. Gen V did include the PWT, which to me seems would've been a nice oath to the characters from Gen 1-5. Or Gen IV which was the last gen to introduce a Japanese based region, not to mention the Gen itself ended with the remakes of what were to be the final games. I feel like they messed up the Gen V reboot as this Gen feels more like a reboot than the previous, despite it being intended as "an evolution" of the franchise.
 
Nekaku said:
This is a pretty stupid thing to say. We have no idea how GO will play or really anything about it. To assume it will kill the main series is clearly stupid to say. Don't be one of those people that thing mobile is taking over gaming when it really is not. GO could be great and very big but it won't take over the main series. If anything it will coexist from what has been said.
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I fail to see where have I said "Pokèmon GO will kill the main series". Care to point it out? What I'm saying is that if Nintendo wants to sell their Pokèmon GO app, they shouldn't make a main Pokèmon game at the same time. It's pretty simple. Pokèmon GO is the next NEW big thing. Let it be before asking for more OLD things, because if you think a new game will be ground-breaking, you're delusional.

I have no idea why you people fail to see this, because it's as clear as 1+1=2. The newest Pokèmon release from NINTENDO is an app that lets people catch Pokèmon in the real world and trade/battle others. How do you not see that no one will give two cents about it if a new "actual" Pokèmon game is released????
 
willprogresivo said:
I fail to see where have I said "Pokèmon GO will kill the main series". Care to point it out? What I'm saying is that if Nintendo wants to sell their Pokèmon GO app, they shouldn't make a main Pokèmon game at the same time. It's pretty simple. Pokèmon GO is the next NEW big thing. Let it be before asking for more OLD things, because if you think a new game will be ground-breaking, you're delusional.

I have no idea why you people fail to see this, because it's as clear as 1+1=2. The newest Pokèmon release from NINTENDO is an app that lets people catch Pokèmon in the real world and trade/battle others. How do you not see that no one will give two cents about it if a new "actual" Pokèmon game is released????
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Some people got pissed during the press conference, they had expected them to announce a new main game. The desire for a main game has gotten to the point where some people won't even look at a spin off, instead they see them as delaying the main game(s). If they do delay it because of GO promotion it'll cause their accusations to be vindicated. There's proof of that in our old Third version speculation thread.


Seems like a lose-lose for GO when it comes to it's relation to a new main game. It either gets hated on for not being 'Z' or it is overshadowed by an announcement. Well, actually it seems that it would've been better to have had GO after the next main game.
 
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire said:
Some people got pissed during the press conference, they had expected them to announce a new main game. The desire for a main game has gotten to the point where some people won't even look at a spin off, instead they see them as delaying the main game(s). If they do delay it because of GO promotion it'll cause their accusations to be vindicated. There's proof of that in our old Third version speculation thread.


Seems like a lose-lose for GO when it comes to it's relation to a new main game. It either gets hated on for not being 'Z' or it is overshadowed by an announcement. Well, actually it seems that it would've been better to have had GO after the next main game.
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I've seen the exact opposite with Pokemon GO when it was first announced, where I've seen a lot of positive reception from other websites outside of PC, while they're still waiting for Pokemon Z.
 
Pinkie-Dawn said:
I've seen the exact opposite with Pokemon GO when it was first announced, where I've seen a lot of positive reception from other websites outside of PC, while they're still waiting for Pokemon Z.
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Seems GO is a base breaker, even before it's been released. I do recall that twitter was more positive, but youtube wasn't (well the livestream I had watched).
 
@willprogresivo: During GO's reveal, it's been hinted that it may connect somehow to the main series games. With that said, there's a small chance that it may even be released alongside the new main series game, and work in conjunction with it like how Dream Radar and the Pokewalker worked. But we'll find out next month, they're supposed to show it off at GDC in San Francisco around March 14th.

And no offense dude... but you've been coming off as kind of rude, like you're talking down on us because our speculation doesn't fit with what you think.
 
WingsofBliss said:
@willprogresivo: During GO's reveal, it's been hinted that it may connect somehow to the main series games. With that said, there's a small chance that it may even be released alongside the new main series game, and work in conjunction with it like how Dream Radar and the Pokewalker worked. But we'll find out next month, they're supposed to show it off at GDC in San Francisco around March 14th.

And no offense dude... but you've been coming off as kind of rude, like you're talking down on us because our speculation doesn't fit with what you think.
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I have a feeling that GO will be out by late March or early April. Hopefully with it and Pokken out out of the way they'll be able to focus on a new main game (I still think that an April reveal is our best bet for a reveal). I also think it'll be more similar to radar, but that might just be because they're both AR games.

Wait, since Emerald, Pt, and B2W2 were announced 2,4, and 4 months before their respective releases, an October (I think it's likely to be this month due to Blue's 20th plus XY's 3rd being on this month) would perhaps mean a reveal around summer. Could be an E3 reveal. Remember the tweets I posted of Masuda visiting southern france? Those were from August/September irc. So it seems that they're barely working on 'Z' if they're connected. That would also explain why Niji, if true is likely a codename.
 
willprogresivo said:
I fail to see where have I said "Pokèmon GO will kill the main series". Care to point it out? What I'm saying is that if Nintendo wants to sell their Pokèmon GO app, they shouldn't make a main Pokèmon game at the same time. It's pretty simple. Pokèmon GO is the next NEW big thing. Let it be before asking for more OLD things, because if you think a new game will be ground-breaking, you're delusional.

I have no idea why you people fail to see this, because it's as clear as 1+1=2. The newest Pokèmon release from NINTENDO is an app that lets people catch Pokèmon in the real world and trade/battle others. How do you not see that no one will give two cents about it if a new "actual" Pokèmon game is released????
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Pokemon Go is so they can compete against Mobile Gaming on phones. You seem to fail to understand that they will bring anything out to make money. Bring a new game and the app out would get them a ton of money. And Pokemon Go would give them a constant flow of income, unlike main series games. But main series games would still give them a massive amount at once.


And just an FYI, the ground breaking news was the new pokemon Magerna.
 
The fact we can obtain every legendary mostly from ORAS(correct me if wrong)..
makes me think the next game is a 7th gen more possible..
 
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