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Thoughts on my team?

Yoshi2186

IV Breeder/EV Trainer
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    • Seen Mar 5, 2011
    Here is my current EV Team:

    Armaldo @ Muscle Band
    Adamant
    252 Attack/252 Speed
    -Earthquake
    -Swords Dance
    -X-Scissor
    -Stone Edge

    Umbreon @ Leftovers
    Lax
    252 Defense/252 Sp.Def
    -Confuse Ray
    -Moonlight
    -Faint Attack
    -Psychic

    Bronzong @ ???
    Relaxed
    252 Defense/252 Special Defense
    -Confuse Ray
    -Trick Room
    -Gyro Ball
    -Extrasensory

    Blissey @ Leftovers/Scope Lens
    Calm
    252 HP/252 Special Defense
    -Sing
    -Softboiled
    -Psychic
    -Healing Wish

    Hitmontop @ Toxic Orb
    Adamant
    252 Attack/252 Speed
    -Facade
    -Aerial Ace
    -Rolling Kick
    -Double Team

    Nidoking @ Muscle Band
    Adamant
    252 Attack/252 Speed
    -Earthquake
    -Megahorn
    -Fire Punch
    -Ice Punch

    Thoughts/Criticisms would be appreciated

    Also, I'm looking to counter any types across the board, any harmful strategies, and keep constant offense to quickly end battles. Resistances, status infliction, and healing are also incorporated to face hard hitters like Gengar, or any Pokemon with Special Attack/Attack EV's.
     
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    Nothing at the moment, but he will be holding Leftovers soon.
     
    Instead of Healing Wish, you should just get Aromatherapy on Blissey. Healing Wish just takes away the stall-ness of Blissey. Remove Psychic, give it Flamethrower instead.
     
    Instead of Healing Wish, you should just get Aromatherapy on Blissey. Healing Wish just takes away the stall-ness of Blissey. Remove Psychic, give it Flamethrower instead.

    Is that able to be taught by tutoring? And ok, thanks for the input.
     
    Is that able to be taught by tutoring? And ok, thanks for the input.
    Aromatherapy is one of Blissey's egg moves. Armaldo's Attack is already high, so you could give it Rock Polish instead (it's a TM). Hitmontop is terrible at abusing Toxic Orb; replace it with Breloom:
    -Facade/Stone Edge
    -Spore
    -Seed Bomb
    -Superpower/Sky Uppercut/Mach Punch
    Nature: Adamant
    Item: Toxic Orb
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Ability: Poison Heal

    For Bronzong: replace Confuse Ray and Extrasensory with a combination of Earthquake, Stealth Rock or Explosion.

    I'll give more feedback later.
     
    This team has just about 0 chance of being successful competitively. Sorry. Change Armaldo to just about anything else (Tyranitar is a good starting point). Try running

    Tyranitar @ Leftovers / Lum Berry
    252 HP / 36 Atk / 220 SpDef
    Adamant Nature
    Payback
    Stone Edge
    Stealth Rock
    Fire Punch / Superpower / Earthquake

    Beats an array of standard leads and has some utility late-game.

    Umbreon sucks, replace with Vaporeon.

    Vaporeon @ Leftovers
    252 HP / 188 Def / rest in SpAtk
    Bold or Modest Nature
    Surf
    Wish
    Protect
    Ice Beam / Roar (I prefer roar myself)

    "standard bulky water"

    Give Bronzong Leftovers or an Occa Berry.

    Bronzong @ Leftovers or Occa Berry
    252 HP / 88 Def / 168 SpDef
    Careful Nature
    Payback or Gyro Ball
    Stealth Rock
    Earthquake
    Explosion or Gyro Ball

    Change blissey to this:

    Blissey @ Leftovers
    252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
    Bold Nature
    Seismic Toss
    Softboiled
    Ice Beam
    Thunder Wave

    Just give Hitmontop a Choice Band, drop Facade for Mach Punch. Aerial Bad for Close Combat, and Rolling Kick for Stone Edge. Also Double Team is forbidden in competitive play so put something like Rapid Spin on it instead.

    Nidoking wants a Life Orb.

    Most of the other "rates" are completely terrible by the way.

    np: dead prez - hip hop
     
    You should teach your Hitmontop Fling so it can get rid of the toxic orb.

    I'm probably going to swap out Hitmontop anyways, but thanks for the suggestion.

    This team has just about 0 chance of being successful competitively. Sorry. Change Armaldo to just about anything else (Tyranitar is a good starting point). Try running

    Tyranitar @ Leftovers / Lum Berry
    252 HP / 36 Atk / 220 SpDef
    Adamant Nature
    Payback
    Stone Edge
    Stealth Rock
    Fire Punch / Superpower / Earthquake

    Beats an array of standard leads and has some utility late-game.

    Umbreon sucks, replace with Vaporeon.

    Vaporeon @ Leftovers
    252 HP / 188 Def / rest in SpAtk
    Bold or Modest Nature
    Surf
    Wish
    Protect
    Ice Beam / Roar (I prefer roar myself)

    "standard bulky water"

    Give Bronzong Leftovers or an Occa Berry.

    Bronzong @ Leftovers or Occa Berry
    252 HP / 88 Def / 168 SpDef
    Careful Nature
    Payback or Gyro Ball
    Stealth Rock
    Earthquake
    Explosion or Gyro Ball

    Change blissey to this:

    Blissey @ Leftovers
    252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
    Bold Nature
    Seismic Toss
    Softboiled
    Ice Beam
    Thunder Wave

    Just give Hitmontop a Choice Band, drop Facade for Mach Punch. Aerial Bad for Close Combat, and Rolling Kick for Stone Edge. Also Double Team is forbidden in competitive play so put something like Rapid Spin on it instead.

    Nidoking wants a Life Orb.

    Most of the other "rates" are completely terrible by the way.

    np: dead prez - hip hop

    First of all, why would I give Tyranitar an Adamant nature, then no Attack EV's?

    Second, why wouldn't Vaporeon have any Special Defense EV's? It's Special Defense is usually very high when EV's/IV's are applied to it.

    Third, the suggested nature for Blissey seems useless, because it already has a low Defense to begin with.

    And finally, I chose the moves I did for Hitmontop because he has the Technician ability. Again, he will not be used competitively.
     
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    Gamer can we please not tell others that their rates suck ? We are trying to cut that sort of attitude out of S+M.

    I'm probably going to swap out Hitmontop anyways, but thanks for the suggestion.

    First of all, why would I give Tyranitar an Adamant nature, then no Attack EV's?

    Second, why wouldn't Vaporeon have any Special Defense EV's? It's Special Defense is usually very high when EV's/IV's are applied to it.

    Third, the suggested nature for Blissey seems useless, because it already has a low Defense to begin with.

    And finally, I chose the moves I did for Hitmontop because he has the Technician ability. Again, he will not be used competitively.

    Tyranitar has good sp.def and that set lets it act as a tank. The adamant nature lets its KO other leads.

    Vaporeon benefits more with having its low def maxed.

    Blissey NEEDS max def always. Otherwise it loses to Pursuit and other weak moves which it can take. With max def it takes hits as good as max hp Scizor and Spiritomb. HP EV's dont help Bliss and neither does Bold however. Calm is MUCH better this metagame and an ev spread of 252 Def / 80 Sp.Att / 176 sp.def. Flamethrower >>>>>>Ice Beam. This lets you hit move of its switch ins see; Lucario, Breloom, Nattorie, Forry, Dory, Scizor and the list continues.

    Breloom outclassed Top and what do you mean it wont be used competitively ? Is this an in-game team or what ?
     
    Gamer can we please not tell others that their rates suck ? We are trying to cut that sort of attitude out of S+M.



    Tyranitar has good sp.def and that set lets it act as a tank. The adamant nature lets its KO other leads.

    Vaporeon benefits more with having its low def maxed.

    Blissey NEEDS max def always. Otherwise it loses to Pursuit and other weak moves which it can take. With max def it takes hits as good as max hp Scizor and Spiritomb. HP EV's dont help Bliss and neither does Bold however. Calm is MUCH better this metagame and an ev spread of 252 Def / 80 Sp.Att / 176 sp.def. Flamethrower >>>>>>Ice Beam. This lets you hit move of its switch ins see; Lucario, Breloom, Nattorie, Forry, Dory, Scizor and the list continues.

    Breloom outclassed Top and what do you mean it wont be used competitively ? Is this an in-game team or what ?

    No, I mean that I'm going to switch it out for a Breloom. And, thank you for the explanation, it was much better than the borderline harassment.
     
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