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Not sure if this warrants a thread of its own, but I haven't seen a topic like this in this section (and I've been pretty active here) so here goes nothing.
This thread is to discuss how you feel about the types in BW? Not the particular Pokemon, but about each type as a whole, and/or discuss the combos we got. I don't know about everyone else, but I judge each gen by how good or bad the types I favour do in said gen. Perhaps it's just best if I explain...
I think BW got some great Pokemon and typings, but overall, the Grass type kinda got shafted if you ask me. It's my favourite typing ever, period, so while it might be cool that we got Dark/Fighting and stuff running around, it doesn't matter to me as much. There's just way too many pure Grass types and overall I think last gen was much better for Grass. BW Grass types feel like missed opportunities, you know? We have a great Grass/Fighting legend, and Mebukijika's typing is unique, and Nuttre's typing is just utter wickedness, but the rest is nothing to write home about.
Erufuun should have been a Grass/Ghost (who said ghosts can't be cute?) given its mischievous nature, and yes, everyone's sick of hearing about it, but Jaroda could have been Grass/Dragon (then again, him being pure Grass wouldn't seem so "meh" if everyone else wasn't pure Grass too). And Water typing would have suited Marakachi well, if only so it's at least different somehow from every other gimmicky unevolved Grass type (Carnivine says hi). Yanakki should have been Grass/Fighting; it might seem like a Breloom remake, but actually they work quite differently, as Yanakki hasn't got powders to use or Poison Heal, and unlike Breloom, he's got great speed and good spA, so he'd have had a different competitive niche. Not to mention the pokeball mushroom guy would have been better off with Grass/Dark typing; he's got good defenses unlike Shiftry and Cacturne, plus access to Spore and other such moves.
It's not just typing itself, of course. The grassers this gen have stats a little too much like those of previous Grass types; Doredia is a sad case of amazing design meets boring typing meets some nifty moves (Sleep Powder, Butterfly Dance, confusion-free Petal Dance) meets horrible movepool. On the other hand, Erufuun has a nifty movepool, but it's lacking in the offenses department (aka suffers from the Jumpluff syndrome). Jeez, nobody is asking for the Grass version of Chandelar, but there's no good reason why half these guys should see little use in competitive battling due to these unnecessary limitations. So as far as Grass types go, I think this gen has been good to the type, but should have been much better.
My other fave type is Water, and I actually think this gen has been very good to the Water type (the last gen gave us good ones, but very few); I think that Daikenki is very good despite the haters (mixed sweeping ftw), and the water ghost is just amazing as is Abagora despite the otherwise awful typing. It is not, however, without drawbacks: there's no reason, period, why Basurao should exist. Swanna is a Pelipper pretending to be a swan; it looks great but her stats and the like are just idiotic. If you're going to make a Pokemon as good-looking as her, why not make her BETTER than Pelipper, rather than just as useless? The same thing happens with Gamagerog; he's not useless (and neither is Politoed) but the stat distribution is dumb. If you're gonna remake Politoed with a better typing, can't you distribute its stats differently? Seriously. And then we have Mamanbou; I love the thing, but its spD stat kills me. At least it's not useless, bad special defense and all. As for Hiyakki, he's not too bad, but Daikenki outclasses it in every way, even if it doesn't have the speed Hiyakki has.
But enough rambling; how do YOU feel about BW in relation to YOUR favourite types? Not enough Electrics? Great Fire types? Too many Dragons? What are your thoughts on each type?
This thread is to discuss how you feel about the types in BW? Not the particular Pokemon, but about each type as a whole, and/or discuss the combos we got. I don't know about everyone else, but I judge each gen by how good or bad the types I favour do in said gen. Perhaps it's just best if I explain...
I think BW got some great Pokemon and typings, but overall, the Grass type kinda got shafted if you ask me. It's my favourite typing ever, period, so while it might be cool that we got Dark/Fighting and stuff running around, it doesn't matter to me as much. There's just way too many pure Grass types and overall I think last gen was much better for Grass. BW Grass types feel like missed opportunities, you know? We have a great Grass/Fighting legend, and Mebukijika's typing is unique, and Nuttre's typing is just utter wickedness, but the rest is nothing to write home about.
Erufuun should have been a Grass/Ghost (who said ghosts can't be cute?) given its mischievous nature, and yes, everyone's sick of hearing about it, but Jaroda could have been Grass/Dragon (then again, him being pure Grass wouldn't seem so "meh" if everyone else wasn't pure Grass too). And Water typing would have suited Marakachi well, if only so it's at least different somehow from every other gimmicky unevolved Grass type (Carnivine says hi). Yanakki should have been Grass/Fighting; it might seem like a Breloom remake, but actually they work quite differently, as Yanakki hasn't got powders to use or Poison Heal, and unlike Breloom, he's got great speed and good spA, so he'd have had a different competitive niche. Not to mention the pokeball mushroom guy would have been better off with Grass/Dark typing; he's got good defenses unlike Shiftry and Cacturne, plus access to Spore and other such moves.
It's not just typing itself, of course. The grassers this gen have stats a little too much like those of previous Grass types; Doredia is a sad case of amazing design meets boring typing meets some nifty moves (Sleep Powder, Butterfly Dance, confusion-free Petal Dance) meets horrible movepool. On the other hand, Erufuun has a nifty movepool, but it's lacking in the offenses department (aka suffers from the Jumpluff syndrome). Jeez, nobody is asking for the Grass version of Chandelar, but there's no good reason why half these guys should see little use in competitive battling due to these unnecessary limitations. So as far as Grass types go, I think this gen has been good to the type, but should have been much better.
My other fave type is Water, and I actually think this gen has been very good to the Water type (the last gen gave us good ones, but very few); I think that Daikenki is very good despite the haters (mixed sweeping ftw), and the water ghost is just amazing as is Abagora despite the otherwise awful typing. It is not, however, without drawbacks: there's no reason, period, why Basurao should exist. Swanna is a Pelipper pretending to be a swan; it looks great but her stats and the like are just idiotic. If you're going to make a Pokemon as good-looking as her, why not make her BETTER than Pelipper, rather than just as useless? The same thing happens with Gamagerog; he's not useless (and neither is Politoed) but the stat distribution is dumb. If you're gonna remake Politoed with a better typing, can't you distribute its stats differently? Seriously. And then we have Mamanbou; I love the thing, but its spD stat kills me. At least it's not useless, bad special defense and all. As for Hiyakki, he's not too bad, but Daikenki outclasses it in every way, even if it doesn't have the speed Hiyakki has.
But enough rambling; how do YOU feel about BW in relation to YOUR favourite types? Not enough Electrics? Great Fire types? Too many Dragons? What are your thoughts on each type?
