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machomuu said:
Nope. I personally have no bias against 'em, but if it's a show that's just ecchi for ecchi's sake (an older example that I absolutely hated in my younger days is Ikki Tousen), I generally won't get into it because I don't really get anything out of the experience.

But if it's good, far be it for me not to watch it. Tenjou Tenge was a good example of this, went into it expecting it to be a generic ecchi when it turned out to be a plot-heavy brawler with a fun theme song. Plus there are ecchi that work to be completely novelty, like Eiken or various others, which are generally good for a laugh, and Master of Martial Arts, which follows the School Days formula of "Congratulations on reaching the end, here's your out-of-nowhere ****ed up ending". So I doubt I'd be able to dismiss the whole genre, I'd be missing out on a lot if I did.

For the interested, that Tenjou Tenge OP comes in two other flavors:

Pokemon
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and Gurren Lagann
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Both of which are pretty well done and have some really nice design choices. Such as a Dancing Anti-Spiral (I mean come on, how do you get better than that?)
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No way, I thought I was the only one on earth who thought Tenjou Tenge's opening was fucking GRAND. But yeah, Oh! Great is a good example of ecchi exceptions. Air Gear is awesome, I mean, look at my avatar. Kazuma is one of my favorite characters ever >w>
 
I really want to stab myself now.

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Oh , We are talking about fake Opening !
Then cheek this--
 
Oh I'd be hella surprised if the animators had any say in the matter.

But I guess it's a case of not fixing something if it isn't broken. And Pokémon becoming some serious adventure/action show would mean a massive change in demographic and would definitely lose them their time slot. Not to mention requiring loads of resources and being a huge risk. And young/not very initiated fans becoming confused. And you know, et cetera.

But still.
 
Pokestick said:
Oh I'd be hella surprised if the animators had any say in the matter.

But I guess it's a case of not fixing something if it isn't broken. And Pokémon becoming some serious adventure/action show would mean a massive change in demographic and would definitely lose them their time slot. Not to mention requiring loads of resources and being a huge risk. And young/not very initiated fans becoming confused. And you know, et cetera.

But still.
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But isn't it still confusing for Kids to watch an anime with a protagonist that least for 20 year???
Because A character like that has a lot to history & continuity to catch up to.
Pokemon is not Doreamon that doesn't follow any string of continuity so it easy to start watching it from any episode.
But , Pokemon follows a continuity ! There are a lot pokemon of Ash that newer fan might not even be aware off.
Not to mention Ash's friend , rival & Development.
I mean , You don't expect a new Kid to watch all 700 episode to catch with current series.
 
Famon said:
But isn't it still confusing for Kids to watch an anime with a protagonist that least for 20 year???
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Nope, that's not how it works.

Sure, people ask the question every now and again, but there are a bunch of shows out there where they follow a set order of events and still barely age between years. Plus, due to the way Pokemon works, you can jump in to pretty much any episode because it follows the formula that a lot of other shows follow. Specifically, unless it's a 2-parter or an arc, there won't be any real spoilers except for the Pokemon someone has. This makes Pokemon kind of special, but from a narrative perspective Pokemon isn't all that different from something like Gintama (or, yeah, like The Simpsons) in how it runs.

Plus it resets every time a new generation comes out. This is intentional, as it serves as a good entry point for those who didn't watch Pokemon before because it doesn't rely on the previous generations. After all, like you said, a new kid won't have watched 700+ episodes, and the show is designed around the idea that you don't have to.
 
If anything, what makes things weird are the inconsistencies introduced by the scriptwriters for the American (and by proxy all western) dubs. Like Ash and Pikachu celebrating their anniversary, wording like "the years gone by", et cetera. Luckily only the Japanese scripts are considered strictly "canon", for whatever that's worth.
 
machomuu said:
Nope, that's not how it works.

Sure, people ask the question every now and again, but there are a bunch of shows out there where they follow a set order of events and still barely age between years. Plus, due to the way Pokemon works, you can jump in to pretty much any episode because it follows the formula that a lot of other shows follow. Specifically, unless it's a 2-parter or an arc, there won't be any real spoilers except for the Pokemon someone has. This makes Pokemon kind of special, but from a narrative perspective Pokemon isn't all that different from something like Gintama (or, yeah, like The Simpsons) in how it runs.

Plus it resets every time a new generation comes out. This is intentional, as it serves as a good entry point for those who didn't watch Pokemon before because it doesn't rely on the previous generations. After all, like you said, a new kid won't have watched 700+ episodes, and the show is designed around the idea that you don't have to.
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Again , You confuse Pokemon with Doreamon or The Simpson !
I said it before , Pokemon are in different category then Doreamon and follow a strict continuity.
There are more then just 2 pater in Pokemon.
The are Order in collecting badge , catching Pokemon and arcs.
All the episode of Pokemon follows a order.
Therefore , Nobody can't jump in One episode.
Furthermore , Characters in animes like Doreamon never develop , never change and Never get replaced ! Ash's personality change greatly and most old character are replaced. Also All episode of Doreamon can be rewritten But not a single episode of Pokemon can't be rewritten.

Most people are in this illusions are Pokemon is unstoppable and will least Forever Because its a popular game ! However Nothing least Forever.
The Voice actor of Naruto thought Naruto to be endless But Naruto did ended and Someday "One Piece" & ''Detective Conan" will end as well.
Plus , Even The "1973 Doreamon" was canceled! Later it was rewritten in a new series.

Plus it resets every time a new generation comes out. This is intentional, as it serves as a good entry point for those who didn't watch Pokemon before because it doesn't rely on the previous generations. After all, like you said, a new kid won't have watched 700+ episodes, and the show is designed around the idea that you don't have to
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Resetting doesn't cut the connection with other series !
A newer fan wouldn't have much idea about why Team Rocket are after Ash's Pikachu!
And when Ash caught more Pokemon in Oak lad.
They are also other important stuff that can't be ignore in the series that has direct connection with Animes continuity.
Honestly , Pokemon work in a completely different formula then Doreamon or "The Simpson".
There is a reason for Pokemon TV-rating , DVD Sales and Movie profit decreasing !
 
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Ash's personality change greatly
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No.

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Famon said:
Again , You confuse Pokemon with Doreamon or The Simpson !
The are Order in collecting badge , catching Pokemon and arcs.
All the episode of Pokemon follows a order.
Therefore , Nobody can't jump in One episode.
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I already answered this. I'm not confused, I've seen Pokemon.

Plus it resets every time a new generation comes out. This is intentional, as it serves as a good entry point for those who didn't watch Pokemon before because it doesn't rely on the previous generations. After all, like you said, a new kid won't have watched 700+ episodes, and the show is designed around the idea that you don't have to.
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Pokemon isn't the type of show where you need to watch every season, or even every episode to know what's going on, and development's hardly at the core of the series.
 
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