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Suggestion: User rating system

sanshroo

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    I recently signed up for another forum that is very different from the pokecommunity, but uses a system that would work very well around here.

    It's a rating system for individual users. There is a general rating, for non specific posts or conversations around the forums. All users above a certain post count would be able to rate other users on a scale of 1-5 based on their attitude, the content of their posts, and various contributions to the community.

    There is also a trade rating. The forum I came from has a bartering system in place for users to trade items in exchange for other items or for cash. This could be implemented in the pokecommunity trade forums. When a user receives a poke' as advertised then a positive rating would be appropriate. People helping to transfer pokemon from one generation or system to another should also receive a positive rating. If someone cons another person out of their pokes then a negative trade rating would be given. If someone trades a pokemon that was not as advertised (Such as differing IVs) then a negative rating would be appropriate also.

    Moderation in conjunction with a report system might be necessary for false or unfair ratings. A minimum character count would be useful for a short description/explanation of the rate.

    All ratings for a user would be averaged together and displayed next to their avatar or some other place where it would be appropriate to give others an idea of the person's reputation.

    Other categories of ratings could also be implemented such as an artistic ability rating, or technical know-how rating.

    Tell me what you think.
     
    PC had a rep system, it led to flame wars and a channel for personal vendettas and nobody could handle it. I don't think this would go over very well.
     
    There's a similar facility available to this type of forum (vBulletin) called reputation. It essentially allows users to rate posts and give positive rep and negative rep to the user who made the post in question. The amount of reputation a member had was visible next to their name, with green bars being positive and red bars being negative. Indeed, PC had this system for a number of years in the past.

    However, the reason it was discontinued was because of systemic and systematic abuse by the forum populace. People got incredibly upset at receiving bad reputation, cliques would form to distribute out positive rep to increase the size of their green bars, it created a bad atmosphere at times, and I personally was very happy when it was removed (for the first time... the second time didn't go as well either). I understand how a similar system might be slightly beneficial in the Trade Corner (I'm thinking of something similar to eBay's system for rating sellers), but the moderation of that particular forum is very top notch as it is, and to have a forum-wide reputation system that would mainly benefit one area wouldn't be the most ideal outcome.

    The current position we have now at PC are Post Comments. Instead of giving a positive/negative rep, you can write a personal message to the poster in question and doesn't bring any outward gain. And I believe there are plans to scrap this due to lack of use, but I can't guarantee that, unfortunately.

    So, in short, reputation has been here in the past: it causes more problems than one would assume, and the benefits aren't wide enough to counteract the shortfalls.
     
    In my honest opinion, I don't think our member base can handle it. In fact, I know an overwhelmingly majority of the member base wouldn't be able to handle something like that. Plus, I don't really like the idea of rating members and telling them just how good they are or how much of a burden they are to the community.
     
    Trading physical goods is not permitted here because it's a legal mess that would require paying a lawyer to type up the documentation absolving the site of liability and that's well out of the site's budget.

    That reputation system was such a disaster when implemented here that it has been removed TWICE.

    PC tends to shy away from ratings of users because they're generally subjective because each person's opinion of another person differs slightly from person to person.

    As for a trading rep system for trading Pokemon in-game, talk to twistedpuppy and TwilightBlade as to whether they have one or not.
     
    If the system didn't work out well previously then I don't think it will fare any better at this point. All I see coming out of rep systems are ego trips, pointless back and forth negative ratings from opposing groups cause they just don't like each other, and senseless ratings like they give with post comments. Some rep I received in the past had no rhyme or reason like I have had rep and the person sending was like "Rep blah".

    As for as rating Traders I don't see that too be necessary from what I have observed we have a generally go userbase. If we had scammers they would get weeded out upon being reported. Most scammers I dealt with were at Neoseeker or Gamefaqs trading boards.
     
    I agree with the above speakers, as I too have seen the system fail. It just does more harm than it does good.

    Post comments, though, I think we should keep. I give post comments now and then, when I feel a reply in the thread would be off-topic, a VM would be a too open comment, PM too serious and personal, but still want to somehow say something about a post (or sometimes about the person). Sure, I can understand that most people, especially new members, probably don't know what it is/have forgotten it xD But if it's not too much of a bother, I'd like to keep the function~
     
    This is like rating threads and that makes no sense. Rating threads is so useless and so would be user rating. Trolls can rate 1 star for nothing.
     
    No No No No.

    We already have enough members with big egos, and this will only cause a lot of trouble. Plus, I think many members would abuse this feature.
     
    Think we had rep before and even though I wasn't active during that I know from what I've heard that it didn't work and brought unnecessary drama etc.

    sanshroo said:
    Moderation in conjunction with a report system might be necessary for false or unfair ratings. A minimum character count would be useful for a short description/explanation of the rate.
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    I also don't really know how this'd work out since ratings will always be subjective, so you can't easily say something is an unfair rating. Just wouldn't work all in all imo.
     
    Like it's been said above the member rating system has been used before as it's a default feature I think of the forums software. Plus the only real benefit of it is that people can inflate their ego's which can only lead to trouble.

    As for the trading thread thing, I might be wrong here but from what I've seen good threads are usually quite easy to find. They're the ones with either quite a lot of replies or ones that are updated frequently. I don't think a whole new system needs to be brought in for something that you could just work out yourself.
     
    The section of the member base that's mature enough to use this kind of thing properly also happens to be the section of the member base that's mature enough not to need that kind of cheap validation for posting on an internet forum.
     
    no way

    This sounds similar to rep, which was greatly abused the entire time that feature was enabled here.
    It's bad enough we have thread ratings, which are rarely even used, and are also subject to abuse.

    That said, I am a member of another forum that uses a system called "Karma", which you can click either "Exalt" to add to or "Smite" to subtract from any user's "Karma". It is similar to reputation in many ways (not that I'm suggesting such a thing be brought here).
     
    I think here in the ROM hacking forums we really need this.

    However, I do believe the only people that can hand these out are Mods and Super Mods and stuff, who aren't biased (that's why they were chosen) and will choose the only the new users that have a good attitude, good potential, and a friendly/humble atmosphere to every post, no matter if they're in the "Just Joined" or "Elite" group. It shouldn't have any problems as Staff are generally nice and welcoming, hence why there were chosen.
     
    Baeuh, I meant just that if mods happen to see any post in any forum that has a good attitude they can just tick a box and then the ratings go up. But it's for MODS ONLY

    Yeah I see...
     
    Misheard Whisper said:
    The section of the member base that's mature enough to use this kind of thing properly also happens to be the section of the member base that's mature enough not to need that kind of cheap validation for posting on an internet forum.
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    QFT +rep

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    But, seriously, why is this still being discussed?
    @droomph: That adds unnecessary work for mods and gives them more liberty than they should have over normal posters.
     
    I think that there should be a Karma/Reputation system but you should only be able to recieve positive feedback not negative. people who disagree on a forum often vote each others karma down.
     
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