UU Team

WestCoastShiny

    • 170
    Posts
    10
    Years
    Hey everyone! I just wanted some ideas and tips on how to make my current UU team better.

    Donphan:
    Spoiler:


    Dragalge:
    Spoiler:


    Machamp:
    Spoiler:


    Darmanitan:
    Spoiler:


    Sceptile:
    Spoiler:


    Alakazam:
    Spoiler:


    And that's my team! Again, give me ideas, tips, and suggestions on how to make my team better :)
     
    M-Sceptile's not as bad as everyone seems to think - It has near-perfect paralysis immunity in Lightningrod (I think only Body Slam, Glare and Dragonbreath can paralyze it), which is essential as M-Sceptile's speed is its greatest asset. Switch in on an electric-type move and enjoy that Sp.Atk boost too (only works AFTER Mega Evolving obviously). As for moves......
    ~ Detect is essential for safely Mega Evolving and comes in handy quite often, although Protect has more PP. Great for scouting those deadly Ice Shards.
    ~ If you can hack it, Sceptile has a few good egg moves. Grasswhistle has questionable accuracy but putting an enemy to sleep will make up for M-Sceptile's abysmal defenses. If that's not your thing, try another egg move, Dragonbreath. Sure, it's weaker than Dragon Pulse, but it still hits decently hard with M-Sceptile's massive Sp.Atk stat. The added paralyze bonus can give you a little peace of mind and also pave the way for a few of your slower teammates.

    I have next to no experience with the others, but that's one solid mix of offense and defense you got there!
     
    Khaotic Kebab said:
    M-Sceptile's not as bad as everyone seems to think - It has near-perfect paralysis immunity in Lightningrod (I think only Body Slam, Glare and Dragonbreath can paralyze it), which is essential as M-Sceptile's speed is its greatest asset. Switch in on an electric-type move and enjoy that Sp.Atk boost too (only works AFTER Mega Evolving obviously). As for moves......
    ~ Detect is essential for safely Mega Evolving and comes in handy quite often, although Protect has more PP. Great for scouting those deadly Ice Shards.
    ~ If you can hack it, Sceptile has a few good egg moves. Grasswhistle has questionable accuracy but putting an enemy to sleep will make up for M-Sceptile's abysmal defenses. If that's not your thing, try another egg move, Dragonbreath. Sure, it's weaker than Dragon Pulse, but it still hits decently hard with M-Sceptile's massive Sp.Atk stat. The added paralyze bonus can give you a little peace of mind and also pave the way for a few of your slower teammates.

    I have next to no experience with the others, but that's one solid mix of offense and defense you got there!
    Click to expand...
    Mega Sceptile's frailty and Grass Whistle's inaccuracy don't go hand-in-hand. It should be played as an all-out attacker or a Substitute attacker. With the former play style, Sceptile should focus on hitting switch-ins hard with the appropriate coverage move. With the latter, Sceptile can protect itself against a predicted status move or scout a switch-in. Of course, using Substiute also means having to use Giga Drain as a Grass STAB to replenish HP. I'll also say no to Dragon Breath; Mega Sceptile is fast enough already (it shouldn't rely on the paralysis chance) and you lose out on a considerable amount of power on your Dragon STAB:

    252 SpA Mega Sceptile Dragon Pulse vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Hydreigon: 326-386 (100.3 - 118.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    252 SpA Mega Sceptile Dragon Breath vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Hydreigon: 234-276 (72 - 84.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    252 SpA Mega Sceptile Dragon Pulse vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Noivern: 360-426 (115.7 - 136.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    252 SpA Mega Sceptile Dragon Breath vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Noivern: 254-302 (81.6 - 97.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    Sceptile is also fast enough in its base form that it won't rely on Protect or Detect for Mega Evolving.
     
    if you need another Pokemon that can both set and clear hazards, Empoleon is the only other Pokemon in UU that I can think of that does that.

    Empoleon @ Leftovers
    Ability: Torrent
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
    Calm Nature
    - Stealth Rock
    - Defog
    - Scald
    - Roar

    Its typing would also be useful to your team. While both Mega Sceptile and Dragalge resist water, both of them are weak to Ice (and despite Dragalge's bulk, it can't take repeated Ice hits), which water types often carry, and there's plenty of those in UU. It also gives you a couple of other useful resistances like Fairy and Poison.

    Also I think that Adamant would be better on Scarf Darmanitan than Jolly. Darm's sheer power is astounding and it's best to make full use of that. With Adamant and Scarf you still outspeed Jolly Mega Beedrill and most Mega Aerodactlys, since most (Jolly) Mega Aero run 216 Speed EVs instead of 252. Flare Blitz rips huge chunks of health out even though it resists Fire.
     
    PlatinumDude said:
    Mega Sceptile's frailty and Grass Whistle's inaccuracy don't go hand-in-hand. It should be played as an all-out attacker or a Substitute attacker. With the former play style, Sceptile should focus on hitting switch-ins hard with the appropriate coverage move. With the latter, Sceptile can protect itself against a predicted status move or scout a switch-in. Of course, using Substiute also means having to use Giga Drain as a Grass STAB to replenish HP. I'll also say no to Dragon Breath; Mega Sceptile is fast enough already (it shouldn't rely on the paralysis chance) and you lose out on a considerable amount of power on your Dragon STAB:

    252 SpA Mega Sceptile Dragon Pulse vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Hydreigon: 326-386 (100.3 - 118.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    252 SpA Mega Sceptile Dragon Breath vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Hydreigon: 234-276 (72 - 84.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    252 SpA Mega Sceptile Dragon Pulse vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Noivern: 360-426 (115.7 - 136.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    252 SpA Mega Sceptile Dragon Breath vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Noivern: 254-302 (81.6 - 97.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    Sceptile is also fast enough in its base form that it won't rely on Protect or Detect for Mega Evolving.
    Click to expand...

    Something tells me you skimmed my post and only read keywords.
    - I did say that Grasswhistle is inaccurate, but the pros outweigh the cons.
    - I also said that Dragonbreath's paralysis is to allow your slower members to outspeed more threats. It's not for Sceptile's benefit; it's more of a nasty surprise to leave behind when Sceptile faints.

    Lastly, I say there's no concrete way you HAVE TO use any given Pokèmon. It's one of the things I hate about Smogon - they tell you that there's only one or two ways to use any given Pokèmon, and you're a "noob" if you use them any other way. It sucks.

    I do admit that you have a valid strategy, and a pretty effective one at that, but I urge you (and everyone) to keep an open mind.
     
    Grass Whistle is much too inaccurate. As great of a status condition as sleep is, Grass Whistle is never gonna be reliable. Just think of Focus Miss and its 70% accuracy. By the time Grass Whistle finally works Sceptile will be dead.

    Also all stats are applied as soon as a Pokemon Mega Evolves, it's just that turn order is decided before then so Speed changes don't apply until next turn. It's still not a bad idea for some mega Pokemon in singles like Beedrill and Diancie, but regular Sceptile is fast enough that Protect/Detect's not needed. If this was doubles tho hell yeah you want that on it.
     
    Khaotic Kebab said:
    Something tells me you skimmed my post and only read keywords.
    - I did say that Grasswhistle is inaccurate, but the pros outweigh the cons.
    - I also said that Dragonbreath's paralysis is to allow your slower members to outspeed more threats. It's not for Sceptile's benefit; it's more of a nasty surprise to leave behind when Sceptile faints.

    Lastly, I say there's no concrete way you HAVE TO use any given Pokèmon. It's one of the things I hate about Smogon - they tell you that there's only one or two ways to use any given Pokèmon, and you're a "noob" if you use them any other way. It sucks.

    I do admit that you have a valid strategy, and a pretty effective one at that, but I urge you (and everyone) to keep an open mind.
    Click to expand...

    Khaotic Kebab said:
    Also remember that stats are not applied immediately after going Mega, so Protect allows it to buff up safely
    Click to expand...
    There's a fine line between unexpectedness and gimmick. Dragon Breath falls under "gimmick" because of its low base power. There are more reliable ways to paralyze opponents, like Thunder Wave. Status spreading/fishing is better done by bulkier Pokemon, as they have the bulk to afford spamming moves like Scald or Discharge.

    As Zekrom mentioned, Grass Whistle is very inaccurate and you should compare this to Focus Blast. It's inaccurate, but not as inaccurate as Grass Whistle is. 55% accuracy is way too unreliable for competitive standards.

    I'd recommend reading this section to better understand Mega Evolution mechanics. In other words, when a Pokemon Mega Evolves, all its new stats and abilities take effect, except for the turn order (which is determined by the Pokemon's previous Speed).

    And to further elaborate, Beedrill and Diancie have to rely on Protect to Mega Evolve safely because their base forms are rather slow.
     
    Last edited:
    My mistake with the Megas thing, and Grasswhistle is inaccurate, but I'm surprised no-one has objected a lot to focus blast.

    Using the same logic you used for Dragonbreath, you could call Discharge, Body Slam and Nuzzle gimmicks too.
     
    Khaotic Kebab said:
    My mistake with the Megas thing, and Grasswhistle is inaccurate, but I'm surprised no-one has objected a lot to focus blast.

    Using the same logic you used for Dragonbreath, you could call Discharge, Body Slam and Nuzzle gimmicks too.
    Click to expand...
    Bulky Pokemon can afford to spam moves that cause additional status effects; frail Pokemon can't. Discharge and Body Slam are decently powerful. Nuzzle isn't.

    No one objected to Focus Blast because while it's inaccurate, it's an essential coverage move for some special attackers, Sceptile being one of them.
     
    You must log in or register to reply here.
    Back
    Top