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Question: What happened to member of the month?

Seems that unless brand new, outstanding members show up, then anything having to do with staff will get pretty much the same rewards no matter how often this event is held.

Unless of course, drastic changes in the lives of the staff happen. To me, it's still a popularity contest where the ones people know the most will get the rewards (well, they'll win, you know what I mean) unless those who get it over and over again are put out of the contest for some time.

No matter what option goes into effect, the entire thing seems a pointless listing to myself.
 
I think we should switch it to Member of the Year. Come up with good categories (whether that means putting it in the hands of staff or not) and then have it once a year, maybe in December or something. Then we don't have to make the same votes month after month and we won't get so bored of it.
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Well, that's fine too. :<

Well, if you want more people voting, then publicize it. );
I mean, if you don't vote because ~the same people are just gonna win~, then they will win XD;

It'll only fail if you say it's going to fail, naysayers. n_n; Instead of giving up, why not think of new solutions :p
 
We could make a rule that says that once you've won MOTY twice in a row, you can't win it again the next year. :p
 
Member of the Year would definitely be more interesting. It would be something to look forward to, instead of just knowing that each month people will vote for same users over, and over again. Most of the time, it's the same group of people who look forward to MoTM, therefore it's those same people that always vote, and will always vote for most of the same members in the given categories. :/

It got to the point where each month you could predict who won, and that takes the fun out of it.. For a time, it seemed like a competition of who could win in a certain category the most times, or something. I saw some comments with that kind of idea even.

If Member of the Year doesn't take, then at least let Month die off until PC has a chance to get a different group of people interested in it. <-- which likely take a good couple of years.. xD;
 
Twilight Sky said:
That's what I was referring to. It might be a huge big deal with like, half of PC voting and whoever is starting the motm would like have to sacrifice half of their day to count up all the votes. That's the tediousness I was sorta referring to in the relation with the Presidency. XD; I just fear it might turn out like that.
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Differences:

- Member of the Year isn't a monthly thing (lmao thank you for stating the obvious, Lightning) so while there would probably be more votes to count, it wouldn't be so tedious to count it every month, leading to...

- Since the prize wouldn't be as huge as get your own personal name colour for half a year, we wouldn't care so much about checking IPs and watching out for cheating. Plus since it'd be a group undertaking to plan and set up the event, we could probably divvy the job of tallying categories. Split the pages of votes between a few people and aggregate results at the end and it's less of a headache for everyone. (Or everyone picks a category and counts only that category... etc. :D)

All in all I think it'd be a lot easier to deal with as more of a community project than an Other Chat, one-person-only thing.
Erik said:
Well, that's fine too. :<

Well, if you want more people voting, then publicize it. );
I mean, if you don't vote because ~the same people are just gonna win~, then they will win XD;

It'll only fail if you say it's going to fail, naysayers. n_n; Instead of giving up, why not think of new solutions :p
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Well, I suppose there's always making a notice or putting it in the announcements but... while I wouldn't mind putting a notice up for 2-3 days every month, having an announcement (or moving it TO announcements, I think I saw as a suggestion) would just be ridiculous because it'd pretty much get in the way of everything else that would probably be relatively more important.

Plus, MOTM has been kind of failing and otherwise going downhill for years and not for complete lack of effort. Yeah we get a lot of subsequent months where the categories are all exactly the same except for 6 "random" categories that are downright stupid, but even on months where the host goes above and beyond to get opinions on their categories, make sure the categories are different and appealing, etc., MOTM usually just falls flat. They'd be lucky to get 3 pages out of the thread.

I strongly feel it's not just lack of advertisement. D: While I do agree that would bring in more people than just the OC-regulars (and thus different votes), I think something's just been fundamentally wrong with MOTM for a long time. While the monthly thing worked fine back when PC was growing and still fairly tight-knit, it doesn't translate very well to a huge userbase that, instead of visiting and lurking every forum, tends to pick 2-3 forums and only looks in those. (So you have the ROM Hackers, Game Devers, Artists, Wifi, OC/OVP, Clubs, and so on... all as different "groups" and they don't tend to mingle much.) Trying to gather aaall of those groups into one and coordinating something for that every single month (or even every three months) is a huge undertaking and it doesn't sound appealing for me as a staff member, let alone a member (or a handful) who don't have easy access to the mod lounge to get help with gathering attention, or notices, or announcements, etc. Plus, to try to make it a bigger thing that's even worth garnering the attention of the whole forum for, there'd need to be a planning period (I think), and if it were a seasonal thing, there's not much time to cool down between planning, voting, counting, and restarting the cycle.

But switching it to a yearly thing? Gives plenty of planning time to plan it out, run the voting, tally it, and post the results... and then a year to forget about it and refresh our ballot, so to speak. For sure we wouldn't run into the same people winning a category every time because a year on the internet is a long time and people come and go. Right now it's pretty lame when someone wins a category every single month but even if we ran into the same general problem of someone winning a category all the time... there's a whole year between those wins. If they win twice in a row at that rate, it's more impressive rather than the "oh, people probably just copy/pasted their ballot from last month" impression.

omg i'm tl;dring and my thoughts are all over the place here. I didn't think I felt so strongly about MOTM. Especially at 2am. :( ffff /goes to bed
 
Twilight Sky said:
I understood the part when you suggested to offer it annually, but as I think about it, isn't it the same thing as PC Presidency in a way? I mean last I recalled, it got shut down because staff members had to spend hours to count 9001 votes in that thread.
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...I counted the first presidency votes. It was horrible.


MotM is stupid and people should know if they're the best anyway. It was dumb when I ran it, it still is. <3
 
I certainly wholeheartedly support the Member of the Year now. Especially since now I know that someone who really has the ear of the community feels the same. Yeah, I will somewhat lament the loss of MotM but to be honest, it was long overdue for an overhaul anyways, and like PC has, MotM must now grow with us or risk being discarded or forgotten.

I certainly am glad PC has stayed great, througout all these years. It still is great and the members constantly remind me of the better side of humanity, which brings this jaded soul back into the light. :3

(Trust me, up until like...High School, school was hell for me.)
 
Ausaudriel said:
An automated system would be easy enough to make, actually... D:
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I actually agree with Erik's idea of making a automated system.. :) I mean if it is do-able and someone thinks they can do it.


Also I see a lot of comments on the fact that MOTM/Y/S (What ever it will be called) is pretty much tied to the Other Chat section, and thus I agree also with Erik's idea to make it public. But I'd like to add my 2 cents there. Why not make the Voting bound to the section that category fits. I mean like Graphics Artist of the months/season/year could actually be held in that section were the graphic artists would be sure to notice it and hopefully participate. Same thing for like Fan Fic, Role Player, Wifi Battler, Artist, Spriter etc.... of the Month/Season/Year.

So hopefully you see were I'm going with this.. ^^;
 
Ausaudriel said:
An automated system would be easy enough to make, actually... D:
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Would it be some kinds of GUI fancy PHP page with perl scripting or some other thing? I'd prefer functionality over appeal. Visual bugs are horrible to me ;_;

And well if Member of the Year seems more exciting than Member of the season to most then I guess that would be more of something to focus on. And I like Angela's Idea of holding categories in their respective forums.

So yeah, kill the month, plan for the year. I definitely move on that.
 
It doesn't matter what you do to MoTM or how you change it, it is and always will be a popularity contest.
 
I'll be completely honest. Last time I voted in MotM was some time in mid-2004, and only because Arcanine and Dakota (don't strain yourself if the name doesn't sound familiar) jokingly made me vote for them in some category or another. I've never been big on popularity contests on principle...mainly because of my penchant for not winning them. I think monthly is way too often to see this thing come and go with the same old people winning time and again. I do agree that making it an annual event will be much more fun. It will give the people managing it more time to come up with more creative categories, and it will give the members at large more time to 'campaign' to try and win people over with their particular talents.

...just my two cents on this issue. XD
 
Member of the Year sounds like a much better idea, since we don't need to be reminded every month who the "popular" members are on PC.
 
I'm sorry but I feel Member Of The Month beyond s to a old era and the admins/mods should reward users with member titles for being good. Any misbehaver gets the title taken off :)
 
LightOfTruth, We already have emblems for staff to reward users who achieve things...we need no other system to supersede it.

MOT(M/S/Y) is essentially a contest attached to an emblem so it's a doable achievement and does not supersede the emblem system.
 
Pachy said:
LightOfTruth, We already have emblems for staff to reward users who achieve things...we need no other system to supersede it.

MOT(M/S/Y) is essentially a contest attached to an emblem so it's a doable achievement and does not supersede the emblem system.
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Emblems are nice but sometimes I see people getting them for random reasons. Like bugging a mod :)
 
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