5th Gen Where is Isshu? Confirmed - New York

[Whater]

I think I'm going to have to say New York city and hope it's right :D

 

[Darksun]

I don't really know. I'm a little bit confused, but there is more evidence pointing to New York so I'll go with that. Will we ever know for sure? :3

 

[Swolligator]

I don't really know. I'm a little bit confused, but there is more evidence pointing to New York so I'll go with that. Will we ever know for sure? :3

It is looking unlikely, but hey atleast its fun to speculate and we do get to see the evidence for and against each idea.

 

[Devil Flamingo]

It's obviously based on Vancouver, Canada, that's why it's so "far away". :D

...Okay, just kidding. But seriously though, I think it has NYC influences but I wouldn't go so far as to say it's directly based off NYC (or Shanghai for that matter).

 

[Ravecat]

Exactly, I believe it's a Region based on America, New York, and Manhattan, without being directly lifted from those locations. It's not actually those exact places, it's just heavily influenced by them.

 

[Chub 777]

Exactly, I believe it's a Region based on America, New York, and Manhattan, without being directly lifted from those locations. It's not actually those exact places, it's just heavily influenced by them.

I see your point. But the reigions (main series) are all based on a place in the real world. If it isn't based on NYC exactly, then it's based on Shanghai.

 

[Ninja Caterpie]

I wonder if someone working at GF will sometime stumble upon the completely shattered-ly broken fanbase of Pokemon arguing over this and base their next region on nothing just to bite us?

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

I wonder if someone working at GF will sometime stumble upon the completely shattered-ly broken fanbase of Pokemon arguing over this and base their next region on nothing just to bite us?

Perhaps but then we will still fight and argue like are doing now >_>...
Well I think that Isshu is sort of influenced on America a bit, not 100% but you got to admit that there is something :)

 

[coolnick37]

:D ive got an idea guys, that will make every1 happy, why dont we pick some1 to respresent NYC and some1 to represent shanghai, then both persons post their evidence that isshu is what they believe, and some1 later puts that list together and makes a post with NYC AND shanghai theories.
So if u all agree I would like to be the one that puts down the list for shanghai.
Hope u like the idea. >.<

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

:D ive got an idea guys, that will make every1 happy, why dont we pick some1 to respresent NYC and some1 to represent shanghai, then both persons post their evidence that isshu is what they believe, and some1 later puts that list together and makes a post with NYC AND shanghai theories.
So if u all agree I would like to be the one that puts down the list for shanghai.
Hope u like the idea. >.<

I had a friend of mine get all the NYC clues together into a PM so I could post it here...but I haven't done so yet...I wonder if I have it still...if so I'll like to represent the NYC side of this case :)

 

[coolnick37]

I had a friend of mine get all the NYC clues together into a PM so I could post it here...but I haven't done so yet...I wonder if I have it still...if so I'll like to represent the NYC side of this case :)

:D great, so if there are no objections, ill represent shanghai and u will represent NYC. Now, u tell me when u find that pm, in the meantime ill collect the clues for shanghai.
Btw. I think it would attract less fight if we dont post anything about isshus shape being similar to either choices, and they may look to some1 like NYC and to some1 like shanghai, so I find it would be best to leave out that part.
Also it would be good to write a number next to each clue to NYC, so will I and then u will make another post, where you say some contradictory things to some of the clues i stated e.g. I post:
1......
2......
3. isshu loooks like xxx

and then in the other post u write like this
1. -
2. -
3. isshu cant look like xxx because of ...that and that (but we will not use this clue, if that is ok with you)

Oh and just in case, dont put things that obviously both have, like subway.

 

[rocky505]

I would rather see Kirbychu or someone else for shanghai. You will just make a complaint about the yin-yang stuff again.

 

[born2playpkmn100]

Pokemon Isshu Issue

i say it should be an island in minnesota because if you remember from Mewtwo strikes back ash talks about Minnesota because team rocket helps ash and Co. to get to that island thingy and team rocket is dressed as Vikings, but it should just stay to the fact that the others were in the Pacific so it should be an island near Hawaii.

 

[coolnick37]

I would rather see Kirbychu or someone else for shanghai. You will just make a complaint about the yin-yang stuff again.

Im gonna just ignore ur posts, and i think that every1 else has no problems with yin-yang theory, so I wish you could stop spamming nonsense here, your last post was already deleted, where you were just randomly insulting me for stating my opinion. You are just here to make hassle on the forums. As a matter of fact I have already saw a couple of your posts on other forum like pokebeach, bulbapedia and some other one i dont remember and they were all the same: isshu is america, it is proven, all facts are that isshu is america, or stuff like that. (u had the same profile pic and the same username on every1 of them, so i knew it was you)
Unfortunately for you, some bigger communities consist of people with a more different points of view then you, so all of them ignored ur posts.
Here I am trying to make a fair suggestion that every1 can see the clues to both sides. If u wanted me to be replaced by kirbichu, couldnt you say so, but u had to say something like that, because of, i wil just ignore it.
That was offtopic, sorry

But if any1 else has another suggestion, feel free to nominate. (oh and ill ignore volroc suggestion too, u guys just have a personal problem with me)

i say it should be an island in minnesota, but it should just stay to the fact that the others were in the Pacific so it should be an island near Hawaii.

What makes you say so? Does it looks anything like isshu, if it does care to post a pic? :D
But IMO i dont think that it could be an island.

 

[Kirbychu]

Im gonna just ignore ur posts, and i think that every1 else has no problems with yin-yang theory, so I wish you could stop spamming nonsense here, your last post was already deleted, where you were just randomly insulting me for stating my opinion. You are just here to make hassle on the forums. As a matter of fact I have already saw a couple of your posts on other forum like pokebeach, bulbapedia and some other one i dont remember and they were all the same: isshu is america, it is proven, all facts are that isshu is america, or stuff like that. (u had the same profile pic and the same username on every1 of them, so i knew it was you)
Unfortunately for you, some bigger communities consist of people with a more different points of view then you, so all of them ignored ur posts.
Here I am trying to make a fair suggestion that every1 can see the clues to both sides. If u wanted me to be replaced by kirbichu, couldnt you say so, but u had to say something like that, because of, i wil just ignore it.
That was offtopic, sorry

But if any1 else has another suggestion, feel free to nominate. (oh and ill ignore volroc suggestion too, u guys just have a personal problem with me)



What makes you say so? Does it looks anything like isshu, if it does care to post a pic? :D
But IMO i dont think that it could be an island.

You go ahead and represent Shanghai, I'm still on the fence. :/ Not to mention you seem to have a bit more evidence than me.

There's a lot of info in the first post of this thread that supports both theories, if you guys want to use it.

 

[rocky505]

Im gonna just ignore ur posts, and i think that every1 else has no problems with yin-yang theory, so I wish you could stop spamming nonsense here, your last post was already deleted, where you were just randomly insulting me for stating my opinion. You are just here to make hassle on the forums. As a matter of fact I have already saw a couple of your posts on other forum like pokebeach, bulbapedia and some other one i dont remember and they were all the same: isshu is america, it is proven, all facts are that isshu is america, or stuff like that. (u had the same profile pic and the same username on every1 of them, so i knew it was you)
Unfortunately for you, some bigger communities consist of people with a more different points of view then you, so all of them ignored ur posts.
Here I am trying to make a fair suggestion that every1 can see the clues to both sides. If u wanted me to be replaced by kirbichu, couldnt you say so, but u had to say something like that, because of, i wil just ignore it.
That was offtopic, sorry

But if any1 else has another suggestion, feel free to nominate. (oh and ill ignore volroc suggestion too, u guys just have a personal problem with me)

I wasn't bashing you. I was telling you that you wouldn't be a good choice because all you ever say is that it is based on Shanghai because of the Yin-Yang stuff. You always fuss about it too when someone proves you wrong about it

 

[coolnick37]

I wasn't bashing you. I was telling you that you wouldn't be a good choice because all you ever say is that it is based on Shanghai because of the Yin-Yang stuff. You always fuss about it too when someone proves you wrong about it

I have said many evdence othe rthen yin-yang, and why i say it is based on shanghai is not because of yin-yang but its size, which IMO completely removes NYC from the list of possible isshu theories. And i have never fussed about anythng, it is just you who comes and start talkin stuff like that. And how can you even try to ignore the yin-yang stuff it is very imporatant.
And even if this was true:

you wouldn't be a good choice because all you ever say is that it is based on Shanghai because of the Yin-Yang stuff.

i dont see how that makes me a bad choice for this, are you implying that yin-yang stuff isnt valid? It is one of the more important aspct of the games.

You always fuss about it too when someone proves you wrong about it

When was i proven wrong about that, could u care to shed some light on that?
And i have proven lots of your things wrong and ally you just did wass twist the truth.
In the end here we are having a fight again. And look, it started when you posted. What a coincidence.

 

[rocky505]

I didn't start anything you did from bashing me. Like others have told you Yin- Yang happens in more than just China, it happens in Japan as well so I guess that means we are back in Japan like the old days. And the thing about yin-yang is old vs new, Nature vs technology there are people in America who do not use electricity but I am sure there are in China as well.

 

[coolnick37]

I didn't start anything you did from bashing me. Like others have told you Yin- Yang happens in more than just China, it happens in Japan as well so I guess that means we are back in Japan like the old days. And the thing about yin-yang is old vs new, Nature vs technology there are people in America who do not use electricity but I am sure there are in China as well.

Yin-yang originated form china and is the national religion only in china so it points to it being in shanghai area. And Japan ist that much in yin-yang.
And to prove that u just bash yin-yang theory no matter that you acctually dont know anything about it, here are some of your posts on it:

the yin yang crap doesn't matter. Hoenn had Hebrew like MRAS said earlier and it isn't based in Israel.

first of calling something like that, crap is wrong. And the legendaries of hoenn arent based on hebrew myths, some fans just like that idea since hebrew beasts can summon rains and sun. And note that there are no ingame reference for the groudon/kyogre/rayquaza, as for zekrom reshiram there are.

excuses, excuses that is all you can come up with.

I dont think those are excuses.

Like I said the pokedex classification does not matter. Look at Sandshrew the pokedex says it is a mouse when it is not a mouse.

And if it is from the pokedex then it doesn't matter.

Yes it does, and it is not just the pokedex, the entire region represents yin-yang, as in new vs. old, nature vs. tech (NYC area doesnt have that much of nature so this dismisses YNC too in a way)

How am I stupid when you brought this thread off topic? you always start non sense in here.

coolnick i wish you would stop naming places that YOU think look like Isshu. It is just going to cause more havoc. Dundee looks hardly anything like Isshu.

These just show how u reacted when I proposed evidence that isshu might be osmehwere else. You said that i shouldnt post places i think that are isshu? That is just wrong, and it is the purpose of this thread.
Then you said i brought this thread off topic, by talking about isshu not being NYC.
Now from here every1 can see that you have a problem accepting new ideas, and i cant personally stand you because you lack common sense, and instead of logic you just repeat your self.
Ppl like you tend to ignore things, and manipulate facts to ur liking, like with the picture of NYC, every person in favor of NYC in here has never posted a full pic of isshu, just the prerelease, and only the pic of the central island of NYC area, and some of them actually told that the full map is not valid because its high-link :/ pff
Now i hope this doesnt turn into trashing again, so i suggest that we ignore these couple of posts after u started accusing me of being not a good choice for a not so good reason, and move on.
We just w8 to magmy ruby to gather his evidence

 

[PiPVoda]

Ahhhhh, so much arguing over who will represent Shanghai! Ever thought that Isshu could be based on other areas of the planet? NYC and Shanghai are just two of the growing megacities currently present on Earth. GF could have got ideas from anywhere.

Frankly, I don't see any Shanghai influence in it. Sure possibly NYC in Hiun, but that's about it. Isshu is shaped how it is, imo, to increase playability (like they rotated Hoenn about 90 degrees to do that).