S. Magumarashi said:My favorite is Dawn.
Misty was a great character in Kanto and OI, but she became super stale in Johto IMHO. Her gag about pulling Brock's ear became really old rather quickly and that was about the only thing she did in Johto, besides that horrible Whirl Cup and a few battles that didn't come quickly. Anyway, I like Misty now that she has become a Gym Leader and has a conclusion that I like.
May was a great character in her own right as well. I didn't like her the moment I saw her but with character development, she went from a whiney girl who hated pokémon and didn't want to be a trainer, to a girl that came into the Top 4, IIRC, of the Kanto Grand Festival and to someone who can travel by themselves (If she is anyway....). The thing that doesn't make May my favorite is the fact that she didn't appeal to me as much as I knew she could.
(For the people who don't like May because of Max, I agree that Max wasn't great but this allowed us to see May from different perspectives liike Togepi did with Misty.)
I like Dawn the most because she is like the combination of the two and Ash. She is eager about completing her goal. She wasn't as air-headed as May was in the beginning of her journey and she can get mad like Kanto/OI Misty. She also actually tries different things like Gym Battles, even though it was just to have Maylene get her confidence up. But of course, she also has bad sides such as how she usually uses Piplup and ignores her other pokémon.
(To people who think she is a whiner, it's called character development.)
Misty was a great character in Kanto and OI, but she became super stale in Johto IMHO. Her gag about pulling Brock's ear became really old rather quickly and that was about the only thing she did in Johto, besides that horrible Whirl Cup and a few battles that didn't come quickly.
Anyway, I like Misty now that she has become a Gym Leader and has a conclusion that I like.
I like Dawn the most because she is like the combination of the two and Ash. She is eager about completing her goal. She wasn't as air-headed as May was in the beginning of her journey and she can get mad like Kanto/OI Misty.
She also actually tries different things like Gym Battles, even though it was just to have Maylene get her confidence up.
(To people who think she is a whiner, it's called character development.)
Agreed.Considering how and what I label as "doing things", as well as what I stated several times before as to what things she had as important to the cast as well as the Show, Let's just say we disagree.
Well, I guess her conclusion from the main cast after Johto and not her goal.Well, personally, I don't see how losing to a bunch of rookie trainers is even close to a conclusion to her goal (Especially considering how JJM are being labelled as "Pathetic Losers" because of this reason as it is, which doesn't seem any different from how Gym Leaders lose, and besides which, Ash is continuing on his Journey even though, if Misty stopping travel to become a GL makes her a pokemon Master, he should have just accepted the offer.), but meh, It's your opinion.
I never really edited it from the time I posted it the last time. I guess she has changed a bit now.Though things change... especially since now she IS acting more air-headed now (I think CC was complaining on how Dawn is acting extremely girly now.).
I was just explaining her open mindedness.Well, Misty had a bit more of a reason than just boosting her confidence when she challenged Dorian in a Gym match.
Well, she started off as a girl who really didn't like pokémon and just wanted to travel. She would whine that she was tired of walking, etc. By the end though, she had been in the Top 4 of the Grand Festival, traveling without her brother, and liking pokémon. I would call that a step up from what she was in the beginning of Advanced Generation.I... really don't see how "Whining" is even close to something like Character Development or especially a redeemable thing, especially since one of the reasons why one of my relatives absolutely hates "Love Hina" is because the girls in that series, you know, are whiney (That and being voluptuous bimboes, but whiney also describes them as well.).
actually she did. she appeared in the Mastermind of the Miraje Pokemon which was in Battle Fronteir
Well that was made for the US first then Japan...
So I don't know if that counts....
@Porygonsquared: about your GL arguement, I viewed GLs as not being very strong, anyways (In fact, they are probably as strong as, if not marginally stronger than, JJM are, in reality). I mean, first off, the fact that they seem to lose to rookies isn't really convincing for me to believe that they are actually very strong trainers.
Heck, the worse case of GLs losing was in Hoenn. I mean, Yes, Ash was very experienced, but that doesn't mean that most of the pokemon on his team that isn't pikachu are experienced from the getgo, or especially that they should be able to take them down THAT easily. Heck, 3/4ths of the GLs in that region were pretty much joke wins (meaning, the way they were beaten were similar to JJM's losses, be it Deus Ex Machina, or a One Hit KO.). I mean, if it was his Kanto team, or heck, his Johto team who did this, I'd at least be more understanding, since they are more experienced (And by "Winning that way", I mean with actual skill than going "OMG Hyper mode" on us like Pikachu did with it's three wins in that region.)
As for your strength issue, It's far more than just aggressiveness, it's also trying to save someone no matter the cost (and if they can't save them, it's only because the task IS too impossible). I mean, at least Dawn tried to save Pikachu from TR with that Mechlekid (though I DO wish she also tried to climb up the machine. I mean, if Ash could do it, she can as well.), When Manaphy was kidnapped by Phantom in her movie, did May even TRY to save it (if not by swimming to it, then at least using her Squirtle)? No, she never even tried.
The only time that I remembered where Misty EVER hesitated in regards to saving someone was Oddish, which even then, that's only because She didn't have a flying type at the time (and an ACTUAL water/flying type, at that.), and even IF she did, it would have been far too risky to actually try to use one to save oddish, because it would have had a high probability of being sucked in as well. (Before anyone mentions Pidgeotto, I should point out that the only reason why Ash was able to use Pidgeotto without worry was because Bulbasaur was able to whip the hose into submission, thus preventing it from sucking up anything. Also, Bulbasaur was gripping the soil to avoid being sucked in (as evidenced by it's relative difficulty in regards to getting back to the hut.).).
Everwhat? This has to do with Misty being more companion-like how? And please explain your rationale, because your arguments seem fallacious. Come-from-behind wins are a typical television cliche, not a sign of weakness on the part of the opponent.
https://www.serebii.net/anime/epiguide/houen/390.shtml
Aah, the joys of letting one speak for itself.
(and PLEASE don't say I can't think for myself or that I am unintelligent just because I take what people say, because, if that's the case, then School is actually downgrading our independence/intelligence since If we don't "parrot out" whatever the teacher says, we get "F"s, among other things.).
Ok, that's ONE near death saving. which, while not AS much as Ash, Brock, Misty's and possibly even dawn's acts, it's still enough for me to say that she isn't a TOTAL coward (Though she still is big enough of one, anyways.)
I'm not even going to respond to the other one.
Tell me, do you actually think that's a good way of learning? That model has been criticized in recent years for the reason you stated, and some teachers/professors have attempted to break from the staleness by emphasizing critical thinking and imagination. Personally, I learn best through the latter as well.
And how many times have you saved a person from near death? I won't lie, my record is zero. That puts me on the scale of cowardice at Captain Jack Sparrow. How lovely.
A wise decision.
I dislike May because she never really got any better at what she did. She was pretty annoying too.
That's the dumbest thing I ever heard of. May consistently got better throughout each region.
Dawn is probably my favorite overall.
Misty is overrated.
