Why are you a Citizen of your Country?

Trance and Moss

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    A separate thread made me ponder this...

    Today, many people, especially Americans, are born, grow up, and live in their country, but often disagree with many of the policies, and government that operates within their country.

    Some stay in said country, and hope to change things for the better, others live in their country while completely disliking their government, and even disliking their country.

    It is obvious that even if you have problems with the nation you live in, you may stay because your friends, family, work and everything you know is there. So many people simply "put up" with their country and go about their lives.

    Should you love your country or leave it? Is it better to try to stay and work to improve your country? What would it take for you to decide that you can no longer live in your country?
     
    I'm not a huge fan of a lot of the things the US does. I don't believe it's the great country the history books talk about anymore. It's like a shell of its former self. I stay because of family and friends for now, but if something fairly big goes down in the future (which it probably will, given our track record) I'll be out of here. No reason to stay on this sinking ship, in my opinion. I don't really care about the country.

    I don't think things will get better, I do dislike a good amount of what the government does, and I don't dislike the country per se, but I can't say I like it, either.

    If anything, I care about Texas. I'm definitely a Texan before an American. I feel like it's worth staying in and improving.
     
    To be honest I just think people complain to much and they don't even have it that bad :l
    Well I'm Australian and even here a lot of people complain about the country and the people here.
    Australia in my opinion (possibly biased :P) is one of the best places on earth to live and work in.
    It's also one of the safer countries to live in :l So I always struggle to see what they complain about.

    Anyway I believe if you truly dislike your country then just leave :l
    You'll probably realise it wasn't that bad after you left.
     
    I disagree with some policies, that's why I have joined a political party and I'll do my best to change them to my liking. At least it's more probable to change something this way than just by complaining at home.

    Although I would like to travel and live abroad some time during my life, I care about Spain and, in the ened, I'd always want to spend some time here in the future as well.
     
    I have problems with living in New Zealand but I do like it here and I'm sure I'll find something to complain about no matter which country I live in so I might as well stay somewhere I know I like.
     
    I'm not a fan of the politics of any country on this entire planet, and I don't like any government.

    If the UK was terrible then I'd leave, but it's not. I don't love it, but I don't hate it either. I'm drawn to a country because of the culture and the people, rather than it's government. Unless it's some sort of backwards dictatorship I'm not going to take politics into much account.
     
    NidoJosh said:
    To be honest I just think people complain to much and they don't even have it that bad :l
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    This, ugh, so much this. I love you for saying this. Everybody complains about the government. Honestly I don't think the people constantly whining about politics would ever be happy with the government in any country to which they decided to relocate, so they might as well just stay where they are. I just feel like saying 'ugh shut up, you're too young to be this jaded' when someone talks about how messed up their country is. I mean, we're in our teens and twenties mostly here, we should be having fun not worrying ourselves with how a government runs itself.
     
    As a Filipino, I am born to a corrupt and greedy government, a poverty-ridden society, and power-hungry, animalistic politicians

    But, IMO, I don't really care. I feel no change whenever we change our president or something. I just want to live in this country, simply because I don't know how to live anywhere else. I would be culture-shocked first of all.
     
    While I consider 95% of what our politicians do nonsense, I'd still say we're better off than the vast majority of other countries. And none of the better countries speak a language I do and all of them are way too cold, so I might as well stay where I am, right?
    It's not like everything is bad in terms of politics either. Well, sure, there's a lot that more or less just sucks, but hey, we're slowly but surely getting rid of nuclear power, the party that I hate the most (out of the 5 or 6 major parties) is down to less than 3% of votes, things really could be worse. If they were, I might consider moving, but as of now, I don't.
     
    Charlie Kelly said:
    If anything, I care about Texas. I'm definitely a Texan before an American. I feel like it's worth staying in and improving.
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    I always tell people how obsessed Texas is with their state...:P

    To be honest, I'm a citizen of this country because I was born here. If I was born in Canada I wouldn't have moved here because I love the US, if I was born in Europe I probably would have stayed there as well. Unless things reach a point where I can't live my normal life here, I'll probably stay in this country just because it's complicated and expensive to move anywhere else.
     
    I get frustrated with some stuff that happens here in the UK, but at the end of the day I don't think I could live anywhere else (Canada, US, Aus - other English-speaking countries since I don't speak any other languages) because I think the flaws of those countries outweigh the flaws of the UK. Particularly the US there. The more I hear about attitudes and laws over there, the more I am ridiculously thankful I was born here and I don't think I'll ever leave.

    Well, I mean I will leave, I have left before, just not permanently y'know.
     
    I'm a citizen because I was born here. We have birthright citizenship.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthright_citizenship_in_the_United_States

    I choose to remain for two reasons: 1) Even if I wished to move, I am financially unable to do so at this time. and 2) While it is imperfect, the United States still confers the most personal liberties of any other industrialized nation in the world.

    I am also considered a citizen of the State of California. While I may be a minority both ethnically (though that is quickly changing and I am an ethnic majority in many parts of the state), and politically, it's mostly pride in the place I grew up and the fact that all my family and friends are here that cause me to stay.

    Even though I consider my country (and more so, my state) imperfect, I'd rather work to improve it than forsake it.
     
    Of the places I could probably live comfortably... Canada, the United States, Australia, England... Canada would be my top choice.

    And that is where I live. Born and raised here and I don't intend on leaving any time soon. The US, would be my last choice on that list simply because of their health care system.

    I don't necessarily stay here because of Canada's health care system though XD I just like it here. I'm a proud Canadian and I like where I live. I like what Canada stands for in comparison with other countries. I don't have a reason to leave.
     
    I was born in Australia so I'm an Australia citizen by default, but my parents are originally from Cambodia. To be honest, if my parents never moved here, I probably would have never been born.

    My parents immigated to Australia because of the     Khmer Rouge. They had only met, because they had run off and met each other at a Thailand safe camp, where they were sponsored by an Australia charity and were allowed to be sent to Australia. My parents were part of the Khmer Rouge though, my dad was a soldier and my mum was a nurse. But because of how bad things were, they both decided to leave and find a new and better place to stay. Back then, Cambodia was deep in poverty, both my parents had come from farming houses.

    Visiting Cambodia in 2006 with my parents, and seeing how they use to live and the whole big difference from how I live in Australia, I'm glad they had moved. Even though if I was to be born in Cambodia, obviously I would get use to how I live there. But knowing the history of how my parents live when they were little, I do appreciate everything I have in Australia. I do feel sorry for my family that live over there, but my dad helps them out and sends money to them every so often.

    That being said, I love living in Australia, and I've never had a problem living here and even political wise. Yeah sure I like to travel and I would love to visit other countries. Last year I visted America and it was nice there, but I was still looking forward to coming back home. Even though I am Cambodian, Australia will always be my home. I'm not saying Australia is the best because I've live here all my life, every country as flaws life wise and political wise. But I'm content here so Australia suits me the most, even though I have no idea what kind of future we will have, but for now all I care about is the present.
     
    To be honest, I don't really like the US, or anywhere else for that matter. The only reason I'm a US citizen is cause I was born here. Sure the US has some problems, but hey, home is where the heart is. And my heart is the US, more specifically NYC.
     
    I was born here in America while my Mom was an illegal immigrant who married my Dad, who got his green card and everything, so he was a citizen of the United States. Right now, this country is getting worse no thanks to the morons we got running this country.

    If I had the chance, I would move. But there's one problem. Money. If you have no money and you want to get out of the hell hole you're in, you're screwed and might as well take a bite out of that crap sandwich. And to whoever said if you hate your country, then just leave... are you going to pay for it, Mr. Money Bags?
     
    I think it depends with how you're rasied and what you grow up doing. If you live in a bad area, and have a low paying job, or no job at all, it's going to be different than if your whole family is sitting on its high horse, with an enormous ammount of income.

    And every country has its own serious issues. I know America isn't entirely bad, though it's definetly not what it used to be. But i'm proud to live here, because when you look at some ther places... you gotta think "damn, im lucky"
     
    I stay an American citizen because it's generally incredibly difficult to become a citizen of a country you aren't born to. Putting aside language concerns, there are only so many countries that even allow you to become a citizen. I like the area I live in for the most part. It's more or less where I grew up and I have a lot of connection to it. If I don't happen to like a lot of what politicians are doing I'm not going to give up the place I like to be in. I'm going to tell them to get the hell out.

    And I think it's ridiculous to say that someone shouldn't complain if they "have it good." Few people have it perfect. There's always room to improve and if there's a way to make things better but backwards people are standing in the way then it doesn't matter if I don't have to worry about staying fed and having shelter. I can still point out that they're standing in the way of things being better.
     
    Why would I want to uproot myself from this state where I know how to get places, and I have friends, family, and school? I mean, even if I had the money to do it, I wouldn't. I just can't do that. But maybe that's just me. I have my dislikes for the US and for Alabama, but not enough to leave it. Even the things you love the most, you find something you dislike. I'm a citizen because I do like where I live. Sure, it's no where near perfect, but it's what I know best and there's not so much that's wrong with it to where it messes with my life.
     
    The political system in America has been screwed seemingly beyond repair. Why do I still want to stay? In too much of the rest of the world, political unrest is too often a minimal concern.
     
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