WiFi Team, Take 2.

[DonRoyale]

Well, after losses to the same type of threats, I'm again in need of some help on revamping my WiFi team.

The Overview...
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In-Depth...

Dr. Tran (Heatran) @ Choice Scarf
Mild
EV's: 40 HP, 252 Special Attack, 216 Speed
-Fire Blast
-Dragon Pulse
-Stealth Rock
-Earth Power

Switched it around to lead Scarftran. This way Aero doesn't lul at me. :#

Octagonapus (Machamp) @ Leftovers
No Guard
Adamant
EV's: 252 HP, 36 Attack, 216 Defense, 4 Speed
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
-Dynamicpunch
-Stone Edge

Machamp deals with two things that pose a major problem to this team: Status and Tyranitar. It absorbs any status and talks its mouth off, smacking up stuff with Dynamicpunch and Stone Edge.

Xion (Salamence) @ Life Orb
Rash
EV's: 80 Attack, 252 Special Attack, 176 Speed
-Brick Break
-Draco Meteor
-Flamethrower
-Roost

Since I'm having trouble breaking walls, I chose Salamence to fill Gliscor's spot. It can switch in on common weaknesses on my team (Fighting and Ground) with impunity, and strike back with any of its three moves. The three moves offer unresisted coverage and hits many common threats hard. D_A has helped me rework the EV's to get ahead of Lucario and net a KO with either Brick Break or Life Orb. Roost to lol @ the Blissey who think Life Orb recoil is going to kill me before Softboiled runs out of PP.

Scrambler (Blissey) @ Leftovers
Natural Cure
Calm Nature
EV's: 252 Defense, 176 Special Defense, 80 Special Attack
-Softboiled
-Seismic Toss
-Thunder Wave
-Aromatherapy / Ice Beam

There's only one word for this: it's Bliss. What else does it do but soak special hits like a champ. Now that I have Machamp, I'm unsure of whether or not to keep Aromatherapy. Plus, it means I don't have to go through painstaking lengths to get Aroma Bliss and re-EV train.

Boo (Gengar) @ Choice Scarf
Timid
EV's: 252 Speed, 252 Special Attack, 4 HP
-Shadow Ball
-Focus Blast
-Thunderbolt
-HP Ice (65 BP)

Revenge killer. I might switch this for Specstran because this thing barely ever revenges anything without horribly dying to something.

Radar (Swampert) @ Choice Band
Adamant
EV's: 252 HP, 252 Attack, 4 Defense
-Ice Punch
-Waterfall
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge

CBPert, an underrated force, for sure. Switched it out of the lead spot due to a suggestion.

EDITED:
Swampert >> Yanmega;
Salamence >> Gliscor;
Heatran >> Azumarill.

EDITED 2:
Machamp >> Tyranitar

EDITED 3:
Switched the positions of team, making Heatran my lead. Went Scarf >> Specs / SR >> Explosion. Also went Ice Punch >> SR on Pert.

Let me know what you think.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Yanmega is the most replacable thing here imo (its WAY too easilly walled, even by sweepers), which you could put a fighter >>it for your problem(see Agililuke because that OWNS most walls and is a good late game sweeper), heck you might aswell CB that tar and use Pursuit to lol at special walls and lead with it, because it is a great lead.


If you're that worried about cursers unchoice Azumarril and put Encore in a slot too >>> super power imo or some sort of sub/f-punch/encore/waterfall set works wonders, which destroys them, also helps with the cune weak o_o. Having used Encore Azumarril i can honestly say its one of the best pokemn for the job due to its bulk and is very reliable.

Id use support gliscor too if just for SR.

Lack of status absorber is kinda ehh..Aromatheraphy bliss could solve this problem to an extent.

 

[SkyPioneer]

Yanmega is somewhat flawed. I'm no expert, but if my Pokemon was asleep, I wouldn't just keep it in there until it faints. I'd probably switch to my ever common cleric Blissey and Aromatherapy the status away.
In short, I'd recommend you think of something else for Yanmega.

 

[GoldenBagon]

Change Yanmega To Specstran??
as Sepctran can take hits and kicks butt with HP ice which ur not using
lol or u can use dragon pulse/heat wave or flametrower/superpower

 

[Dark Azelf]

Change Yanmega To Specstran??

→ When you make suggestions, back them up with REASON
Why should their Scizor run Superpower over Brick Break? Why should their Lucario be replaced with Machamp? You cannot assume the members you give rates to automatically know what you're suggesting. So when you propose a change, tell the member why, explain. If you yourself don't know, what are you doing rating teams? Show some understanding.

read this please ^


thanks

 

[DonRoyale]

Considering the following:

Swampert @ Choice Band
Adamant
252 HP, 252 Attack, 4 Defense
-Stealth Rock
-Waterfall
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge / Ice Punch

>> Yanmega;

Heatran @ Choice Specs
Hasty / Mild
40 HP, 252 Special Attack, 216 Speed
-Fire Blast / Overheat
-Earth Power
-Dragon Pulse
-Explosion

>> Azumarill, and;

Salamence @ Life Orb
Rash
120 Attack, 252 Special Attack, 136 Speed
-Brick Break
-Draco Meteor
-Flamethrower
-Roost / Crunch

OR

Salamence @ Leftovers
Bold
216 HP, 252 Defense, 40 Speed
-Roost
-Wish
-Draco Meteor
-Flamethrower

>> Gliscor.

Thoughts on the choices?

 

[Anti]

I don't know why SR is on CB Swampert at all. This isn't one of those weak, cute little Choice Scarfers that can't do any damage so they might as well set up Stealth Rock anyways. No...Swampert CAN hurt things and it needs all four moveslots to do that most effectively. Besides, it's rendered useless by Taunt (which is very common), and now you're stuck into a CBed SR while you're Taunted.

What you are right on, however, is your weakness to special walls. Nothing can switch into standard Blissey bar Swampert (which runs the risk of getting smacked with Toxic). I would invest inb Resttalk Machamp to take status, reliably beat special walls, and also cover up your Tyranitar weakness. I'd use it over TTar itself since its SS kind of hurts you more than it helps.

 

[DonRoyale]

That makes sense. I hardly use TTar anyways.

Machamp @ Leftovers
No Guard
Adamant
252 HP, 252 Attack, 4 Speed
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
-Dynamicpunch
-Stone Edge

...?

 

[Anti]

252 HP / 36 Atk / 216 Def / 4 Spd

without Defense it's going to get killed really fast.

 

[pokemew]

i dont get why u have special attack evs on blissey when it has no special attacks
i suggest u put them on one of the defenses or hp

 

[supersmashbro93]

if you use yamega u have to add a rapid spinner because of roaring pokemon and usually runs protect first perfect change to roar it everyone expects it

 

[Lalapizzame]

if you use yamega u have to add a rapid spinner because of roaring pokemon and usually runs protect first perfect change to roar it everyone expects it

But he removed Yanmega... >:

If you want both Stone Edge and Ice Punch on Swampert get rid of Stealth Rock and put that on Heatran =p.

 

[DonRoyale]

Thanks, Anti.

I might go back to Ice Beam now that I have two pokes that can absorb status, pokemew. But I should have noticed that, lulz. XD

The idea with this team is to lead with my SR setup Pokemon. When I lead with Heatran, I put myself at risk for getting severely screwed over by Aerodactyl's Earthquake. Meanwhile, few things can really put a dent in CBPert, so I should be fine with the set I have, Lala.

 

[Ex Trainer Ruiisu]

Considering the following:
Salamence @ Leftovers
Bold
216 HP, 252 Defense, 40 Speed
-Roost
-Wish
-Draco Meteor
-Flamethrower

Mence doesn't learn wish <<; if this is a go at fatmence i would suggest going with toxic over wish.

 

[wolf]

Considering the following:

Swampert @ Choice Band
Adamant
252 HP, 252 Attack, 4 Defense
-Stealth Rock
-Waterfall
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge / Ice Punch

>> Yanmega;

Heatran @ Choice Specs
Hasty / Mild/ Timid
40 HP, 252 Special Attack, 216 Speed
-Fire Blast / Overheat
-Earth Power
-Dragon Pulse
-Explosion/ HP (Grass)

>> Azumarill, and;

Salamence @ Life Orb
Rash/ Naughty
120 Attack, 252 Special Attack, 136 Speed
-Brick Break
-Draco Meteor
-Flamethrower
-Roost Use this one./ Crunch

OR

Salamence @ Leftovers
Bold
216 HP, 252 Defense, 40 Speed
-Roost
-Wish
-Draco Meteor
-Flamethrower

>> Gliscor.

Thoughts on the choices?

Changes in bold... I might come back later...

 

[Dark Azelf]

Mence doesn't learn wish <<; if this is a go at fatmence i would suggest going with toxic over wish.

It does, its an event move =p

 

[otaku-dono]

Isn't Explosion on Heatran a bit pointless if it has Specs?

 

[Dark Azelf]

Isn't Explosion on Heatran a bit pointless if it has Specs?

Well an un-resited Explosion take just about anything out and can open up holes in foe teams aka you blow up on their vaporeon and then your gyarados can sweep and heck you might aswell blow up when you are close to dieing anyway(even though i dont like it on tran personally). Its also for fat special walls aka bliss and lax who wall you otherwise and taking one of the aformentioned out can again open up holes x]

 

[otaku-dono]

and heck you might aswell blow up when you are close to dieing anyway(even though i dont like it on tran personally).

That's the part where you're unwise to run it. You can't use it if you're close to dying, unless you switch a lot.

 

[Archer]

It generally works far better on the Scarf Sets, though as you can explode without being KO'd first. It really depends on the rest of your team, and whether it is usually walled by the sort of stuff you will take out. To be honest, it can just take out threats where you know you can't OHKO, so you may as well take them out before they live and KO you.

One thing to be careful of, is the predictability of it. If you switch Heatran in on Blissey, the opponent will see it coming and switch to a Ghost/Bulky Steel. So scout for potential Normal Resists/Immunities if you get the chance.

Don, there's nothing wrong with CBPert, but don't run SR on it.