6th Gen X/Y Quick Q&A (Read First Post)

[IcarusFrost]

And the egg is no different in colour, regardless if whether it's shiny or not.

if the egg is shiny before it hatches, then why make ppl hatch them all? They should make a shiny pokemon's egg shiny. but i guess they want to preserve the grandeur of shiny pokemon.

 

[ChickenTrainer]

Pokerus?

The woman at the pokemon centre said one of my Pokemon got pokerus! Is this good or bad? My friend said that it puts a virus in your game! Please help!

 

[Tyrael]

Just to make things clear, shiny charm increases Masuda chance to 1/1024.

The shiny rate in Gen VI, without Masuda/Shiny Charm is 1/4096. With Masuda Method breeding, which pretty much gives you a 500% increase on the shinies you'll find. (1/4096 --> 5/4096). Assuming the Shiny Charm has the same mechanics in Gen VI and it did in Gen V, it gives you another 300% increase on shiny rate. (5/4096 --> 15/4096). This translates to about 1/273 chance of a shiny, assuming my math isn't off.. xD

But to fully answer to topic, the Pokemon being shiny in Gen VI is determined AS SOON as the egg is generated. It's given a specific Shiny Value, and if it matches yours you get a shiny :P

EDIT: It would actually put it at about 8/4096, not 15/4096. Didn't fully examine how the combo of Masuda+Shiny Charm worked in Gen V and multiplied them instead of just adding. Derp

 

[εcho.]

It's a good thing, it doubles the number of EVs (effort values) your pokemon gets when they battle.

It will spread to your other pokemon in your party when you battle and if you put an infected one in your PC you can keep it indefinitely. c: Otherwise it wears off after a while. Once it wears off previously infected pokemon still gain double EVs but can no longer spread it to other pokemon.

 

[ChickenTrainer]

Thanks :) Is pokerus rare?

 

[BigSteve]

<p>what's RNG?</p><p> </p><p>also, I'm wondering what does the charm you get for the Kalos dex do?</p>

shinies are mutually exclusive events - unaffected by other encounters. That means its a 1/whatever each time you have an encounter

 

[Ashleyx]

<p>what's RNG?</p><p> </p><p>also, I'm wondering what does the charm you get for the Kalos dex do?</p>

Not sure what's RNG. Shiny charm will increase the rate of finding shiny pokemon. You have to complete (obtain them not see) national pokedex to get it.

 

[εcho.]

<p>what's RNG?</p><p> </p><p>also, I'm wondering what does the charm you get for the Kalos dex do?</p>

The charm from the Kalos dex completion increases your chance of finding an egg at the daycare when breeding your pokemon. Nice if you're planning on doing lots of breeding.

 

[Tyrael]

Thanks :) Is pokerus rare?

It's more rare than a shiny, with the rate of Pokerus being 3/65,536

 

[Xander Olivieri]

But people are reporting an average of one shiny every couple of hours, which is only about 500 encounters. That is much higher than 1/4096.

There are also just as many people who keep defuncting those statements. I have over 5000 Safari encounters with only 1 ever being Shiny. I have had more luck Shiny hunting out of the safari than I have had in the safari. I have friends who have camped the Safari for months and not seen a single shiny yet. I spent 6 hours straight looking for shiny Espurr in one of the three Friend Safaris I have and encountered 0 in those 6 hours.

One of my friends has half a box full of shinies, he found every single one out in the wild and has camped the Safari looking for one specific Shiny from my safari for a few weeks, he wanted it for his entry into the regionals for his area.

Its all still completely luck based. Those that are getting a ton of them are really lucky.

Was going to do a count of how many Espurrs I fought until I had Math class, but I forgot my copy of X was in my 3DS and not my Y. TTwTT

 

[Sopheria]

Keeping in mind that there has been a fairly extensive overhaul of shiny ratios in Gen VI, I don't think anything can be said with any certainty until someone actually scours the source code. If it's true that there's a lot of anecdotal evidence suggesting that there's a high shiny rate in friend safari's, then it's certainly a possibility. GameFreak seems to have packed a lot of goodies into the friend safari as it is (high IV's, hidden abilities, and pretty rare Pokemon), so a higher shiny ratio wouldn't surprise me.

 

[BigSteve]

<p>

It's more rare than a shiny, with the rate of Pokerus being 3/65,536

</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>except its not as rare as a shiny because it replicates onto every other Pokemon in the party :P</p>

 

[Banned]

<p>what's RNG?</p>

RNG is "random number generation". This refers to anything in-game that relies on chance, such as the generation of a Pokemon's IVs in a wild encounter or when breeding Pokemon, or whether a Pokemon encountered is shiny, and so on. When people talk of "RNG manipulation", they mean finding a way of predicting what will be generated.

Keeping in mind that there has been a fairly extensive overhaul of shiny ratios in Gen VI, I don't think anything can be said with any certainty until someone actually scours the source code.

Yep, if only I knew how to do that :P Until then, I think I'll spend some time experimenting with the Friend Safari myself.

EDIT: Yay. Even quicker than I expected.

 

[Banned]

<p></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>except its not as rare as a shiny because it replicates onto every other Pokemon in the party :P</p>

This, and half the Pokemon I get in trades seem to have Pokerus. A true pandemic :P

 

[Tyrael]

<p></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>except its not as rare as a shiny because it replicates onto every other Pokemon in the party :P</p>

Getting Pokerus from a wild Pokemon is more rare, guess I have to clarify that for everyone who can't just realize that's what's being implied :P

 

[Hiatus]

Does anyone know where gems are found, excluding the normal ones?

 

[BigSteve]

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Getting Pokerus from a wild Pokemon is more rare, guess I have to clarify that for everyone who can't just realize that's what's being implied <img title="Tongue" class="inlineimg" alt="" src="images/templates/smilies/cerulean/12. tongue.gif" border="0" smilieid="506">

</p><p> I know you meant that - I just meant that the replication means in an online game its a pandemic and spreading, which shiny can't :P</p>

 

[Flushed]

Does anyone know where gems are found, excluding the normal ones?

I'm fairly certain the Normal Gem is the only one that exists in this generation, which is sad.

 

[Hiatus]

I'm fairly certain the Normal Gem is the only one that exists in this generation, which is sad.

Ah, okay. I was aware of that, but just wanted to make sure if others were actually found or not. Thanks. :]

 

[Ashleyx]

RNG is "random number generation". This refers to anything in-game that relies on chance, such as the generation of a Pokemon's IVs in a wild encounter or when breeding Pokemon, or whether a Pokemon encountered is shiny, and so on. When people talk of "RNG manipulation", they mean finding a way of predicting what will be generated.



Yep, if only I knew how to do that :P Until then, I think I'll spend some time experimenting with the Friend Safari myself.

EDIT: Yay. Even quicker than I expected.

I caught a shiny machoke and espurr within minutes so I guess the rate is higher. Hundreds of others also reported this so it can't be each and everyone of them being lucky.