6th Gen Primal Reversion Discussion & Speculation Thread

[DJTiki]

Deoxys seems like a Pokemon that could get the Mewtwo treatment, getting an Omega Mega and an Alpha Mega. One could focus on making it fast and hit hard but have low defenses, while the other will be slow but hit very hard, and have high defenses. That's if they don't have it's formes change along with it's Mega that is. It's triangle can then change into the Omega sign or the Alpha sign even though it's only a Mega.

Sooooo a Deoxys-Attack forme mega, and a Deoxys-Defense mega.....? Lol. That would be cool, but Deoxys-Attack is already HUGE. Getting a buff in that, and having its max base power be over 500, no thank you. Focus Sash, Swords Dance, then extremespeed everything :o

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

Sooooo a Deoxys-Attack forme mega, and a Deoxys-Defense mega.....? Lol. That would be cool, but Deoxys-Attack is already HUGE. Getting a buff in that, and having its max base power be over 500, no thank you. Focus Sash, Swords Dance, then extremespeed everything :o

Well, it wouldn't be able to use Focus Sash. But other than that you're right... Maybe beef up it's weak stats? Like Speed forme Deoxys will get somewhat better attack and defenses while in Mega. Defense forme Mega Deoxys can get better attack and speed. Attack forme Mega Deoxys can have far better defenses and be slightly faster. Normal forme Deoxys will get 20 added to each of the non-HP stats.

Maybe they shouldn't allow it to change formes while in Mega like I wanted after all...

I hope that they Primal Regigigas will have a better ability if it's made. It'll fit as it will regain the power it used to have which it used to break up the continents.

 

[DJTiki]

Well, it wouldn't be able to use Focus Sash. But other than that you're right... Maybe beef up it's weak stats? Like Speed forme Deoxys will get somewhat better attack and defenses while in Mega. Defense forme Mega Deoxys can get better attack and speed. Attack forme Mega Deoxys can have far better defenses and be slightly faster. Normal forme Deoxys will get 20 added to each of the non-HP stats.

Yeah, I would prefer it to buff its weaker stats, so that it'd could sorta achieve a stronger Deoxts-Standard forme. So Attack would get speed, defense, and sp.def boost, Defense, would get, speed, Attack and Sp.Attack boost, and Speed forme(if it happens) gets a slight boost to everything but its speed.

 

[Pepperton]

To me, Deoxys looks like a futuristic Pokemon, kind of similar to Genesect, but in that it wasn't created by humans, something like an alien species from the future, with the obvious ability to manipulate time, as their brains are more powerful than the average human and have invented technology we haven't come close to creating. That's what Deoxys is in my eyes, and that's not a Pokemon that would receive a Primal form, I think haha d:

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

To me, Deoxys looks like a futuristic Pokemon, kind of similar to Genesect, but in that it wasn't created by humans, something like an alien species from the future, with the obvious ability to manipulate time, as their brains are more powerful than the average human and have invented technology we haven't come close to creating. That's what Deoxys is in my eyes, and that's not a Pokemon that would receive a Primal form, I think haha d:

It's actually a Virus that has come to life thanks to radiation (the anime and manga imply that it was from human machines), but it's still an alien. Not like Clefairy or Elygem, but still an alien...virus.


I would love to see a Primal Jiranchi.
Also for a Primal Regigigas perhaps they'll give it an ability where it can use Giga Impact and Hyper Beam without needing to recharge...like 'Quick recharge'

 

[Pepperton]

It's actually a Virus that has come to life thanks to radiation (the anime and manga imply that it was from human machines), but it's still an alien. Not like Clefairy or Elygem, but still an alien...virus.

Yeah, as I said, an alien. Obviously, everything is in the realm of possibility as it's just a game, but in this case I find it hard to believe that they give Deoxys a Primal form, for this reason. Other Hoenn legendary Pokemon like the Regis, Rayquaza, and even Lati@s can have a case made for them, but not Deoxys, imho. Jirachi is unique, to say the least, haha. I'm just really curious to see where Primal Reversion goes d:

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

Well Lati@s getting Primal is shot down by them having Megas...unless they use stones similar to Mega Stones...

 

[Salzorrah]

I'm not too convinced that the Latis get Primals because, as ORAS said, they had megas. They will be just as OP as Charizard or Mewtwo, having two "transformations" :/

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

@ Avant-garde Yeah, that's one of the reasons I'm hoping Rayquaza only gets one Primal reversion opposed to two like some people mentioned earlier in the thread. Plus Primal implies original, and it'll be strange for it to have two since neither would be it's 'original' self.

 

[Salzorrah]

@ Avant-garde Yeah, that's one of the reasons I'm hoping Rayquaza only gets one Primal reversion opposed to two like some people mentioned earlier in the thread. Plus Primal implies original, and it'll be strange for it to have two since neither would be it's 'original' self.

True. It wouldn't make sense to have two ancient beings that evolve to one single being. What if they did one Primal and one Mega for him instead of two Primal that you had been suggesting.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

If they do a Primal and a Mega for Rayquaza they can put it's Mega in OmegaRuby and it's Primal in AlphaSapphire to fit the titles. But still, it'll be kind of unfair towards the other two. I didn't like how they gave Charizard two Megas while the other two got one either.

 

[Nah]

I don't really see the point in giving Rayquaza both a Mega Evolution and a Primal form, especially when Mega Evolution and Primal Reversion seem to share some similarities/may be possibly linked to each other.

Yes, Mewtwo got 2 mega evos, but I'd like to think that's more of an exception and not a rule.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

I don't really see the point in giving Rayquaza both a Mega Evolution and a Primal form, especially when Mega Evolution and Primal Reversion seem to share some similarities/may be possibly linked to each other.

Yes, Mewtwo got 2 mega evos, but I'd like to think that's more of an exception and not a rule.

I agree, it would seem odd. However, that closeness could also be used to argue for them. I rather it have one, and have Mewtwo be the last one to get two Megas, or more than one...

 

[Leaf Magics]

The main thing that having to equip a hold item does to a Pokemon is it restricts them from utilizing useful items like Choice series, Leftovers, etc in competitive battling.

I see that the other way around. Instead of preventing Mega Pokémon from being able to have a useful item, they are allowing the regular versions of those Pokémon to have a useful item that lets them Mega Evolve. It would be the same with Primal Reversion if it required a held item.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

I'll like to see Relancanth get a Primal (and perhaps the only non-legendary to get one) but I don't know how it'll look...guess it's time to check out it's real life inspiration's evolution line.

 

[Pepperton]

I see that the other way around. Instead of preventing Mega Pokémon from being able to have a useful item, they are allowing the regular versions of those Pokémon to have a useful item that lets them Mega Evolve. It would be the same with Primal Reversion if it required a held item.

Sure, but imagine if Mega evolutions were able to use items like the Choice series. That's probably why they made Mega stones, to keep them from being too overpowered. May be the same thing with Primal forms, depending on how much of a buff it gives the Pokemon. Also, it could be that Groudon and Kyogre get significant stat boosts, but other Primal form Pokemon don't get too much from it other than a slight change in their design, or something of the sort.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

Sure, but imagine if Mega evolutions were able to use items like the Choice series. That's probably why they made Mega stones, to keep them from being too overpowered. May be the same thing with Primal forms, depending on how much of a buff it gives the Pokemon. Also, it could be that Groudon and Kyogre get significant stat boosts, but other Primal form Pokemon don't get too much from it other than a slight change in their design, or something of the sort.

If they do give Primals to other Pokemon I hope they all get the same total stat boost. I expect the stat increase to be the same as Megas or at least close to the 100 stat increase. Maybe even more...

 

[Master Krillin]

I don't think any normal Pokemon will get a "Primal Devolution". Primal Devolution is a Pokemon returning to is primal form normal poke don't have a primal form, like take Vileplume for example, "Primal" Vileplume would be Gloom and "Primal" Gloom would Oddish and "Primal" Oddish is well Lv 1 Oddish think about it.........

Anywhoo as far as gameplay goes I think Primal Devolution will be like Mega Evolution but with a draw back as in loss of defenses or speed because the Pokemon is going back to its Primal form more brute power but less refined more reckless.

 

[Leaf Magics]

If they do give Primals to other Pokemon I hope they all get the same total stat boost. I expect the stat increase to be the same as Megas or at least close to the 100 stat increase. Maybe even more...

If they get a large stat increase by Primal Reversion, and it is a free Forme change, then there would be little reason to use the regular Pokémon. Why use a regular Kyogre, when you can use a Primal one with higher stats and an upgraded Ability that can just as well carry some Choice item or Leftovers?

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

If they get a large stat increase by Primal Reversion, and it is a free Forme change, then there would be little reason to use the regular Pokémon. Why use a regular Kyogre, when you can use a Primal one with higher stats and an upgraded Ability that can just as well carry some Choice item or Leftovers?

The trailer shows them transforming in battle, resembling how Mega Evolution is activated but with the Omega/Alpha sign taking the place of the helix and the sphere is the color of a Ruby/Sapphire instead of Black/White seen in Mega activations. So likely it'll require an item similar a Mega stone to be given to them. Rubite and Sapphite? Or maybe Ancient Ruby and Ancient Sapphire...they can be the orb's true form.