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PlatinumDude

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  • Druddigon
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    -Stealth Rock
    -Dragon Tail
    -Earthquake
    -Glare
    Nature: Careful
    EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
    Item: Leftovers/Rocky Helmet
    Ability: Rough Skin

    Druddigon uses its Dragon typing and heavy investment in special bulk to tank every move Manectric has and threatens it with paralysis from Glare, a supereffective Earthquake or the forced switch from Dragon Tail.
     

    KorpiklaaniVodka

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    Landorus-T @ Leftovers
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 200 HP / 84 Atk / 224 Def
    Adamant Nature

    - Earthquake
    - Stone Edge
    - U-turn
    - Stealth Rock

    Dragon Tail deals very low damage thanks to the Defense EVs and Intimidate ability, and because of its additional Flying type it won't be affected by Spikes, which means each time it gets phazed it only loses 12.5% health provided Stealth Rock is on its field. Meanwhile, Earthquake is a guaranteed 2HKO with 84 Attack EVs.
     
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    Bronzong @ Leftovers
    Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD / 0 Speed IVs
    Relaxed Nature
    Gyro Ball
    Stealth Rock
    Toxic
    HP Ice / Explosion

    A standard set, as far as things go (except for maybe HP Ice / Explosion). Earthquake doesn't affect me, Stone Edge does virtually nothing thanks to my huge defense stats, I'm not gonna take massive damage from Stealth Rock, and U-Turn won't do a whole ton either. In return, I can do any number of things - Toxic, set up my own Stealth Rocks, Gyro Ball or HP Ice (probably the logical choice on this set).
     

    Tyrael

    This is a Sailor's Prayer
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  • Chandelure @ Choice Scarf
    252 SpA / 4SpD / 252Spe
    Flash Fire
    Timid Nature
    - Fire Blast
    - Shadow Ball
    - Energy Ball
    - HP Fighting

    Takes nothing at all from any move Bronzong can possibly throw at it, and can OHKO back with Fire Blast.
     
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  • Snorlax (F) @ Choice Band
    Trait: Thick Fat
    EVs: 252 Atk / 52 Def / 200 SDef / 4 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Return
    - Pursuit
    - Earthquake
    - Crunch

    252 SpA Chandelure Hidden Power Fighting vs. 0 HP / 200 SpD Snorlax: 128-152 (27.76 - 32.97%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
    Fire Blast: 17.78 - 21.04%

    252+ Atk Choice Band Snorlax Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Chandelure: 350-412 (133.58 - 157.25%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     
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    Machamp @ Leftovers / Sitrus Berry
    No Guard
    Adamant
    EVs: 212 HP / 252 Atk / 44 Spe
    Bulk Up
    DynamicPunch
    Stone Edge
    ThunderPunch

    Thanks to a huge attack stat for Machamp (especially if you Bulk Up) and a not-so-huge defense stat for Snorlax, Snorlax is gonna get slaughtered.

    Without Bulk Up
    252+ Atk Machamp DynamicPunch vs. 0 HP / 52 Def Snorlax: 474-558 (102.81 - 121.04%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    Calcs done without Bulk Up and/or Leftovers / Sitrus Berry
    252+ Atk Choice Band Snorlax Return vs. 212 HP / 44 Def Machamp: 279-328 (74.59 - 87.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
    252+ Atk Choice Band Snorlax Earthquake vs. 212 HP / 44 Def Machamp: 182-215 (48.66 - 57.48%) -- 51.56% chance to 2HKO
    252+ Atk Choice Band Snorlax Earthquake vs. 212 HP / 44 Def Machamp: 182-215 (48.66 - 57.48%) -- 51.56% chance to 2HKO
    252+ Atk Choice Band Snorlax Crunch vs. 212 HP / 44 Def Machamp: 73-86 (19.51 - 22.99%) -- possible 6HKO

    So, as you can see, Snorlax gets murdered by DynamicPunch from Machamp without Bulk Ups. If you want to Bulk Up once and let Machamp's HP drop, Sitrus Berry (if chosen) activates, bringing Machamp's HP back up (if you don't have a Sitrus Berry, Leftovers still gets some HP back). DynamicPunch, Snorlax is gone and Machamp is at 50% HP and +1 Atk / Def. Simple enough.
     

    PlatinumDude

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  • Golurk:
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    -Earthquake
    -Shadow Punch
    -Ice Punch
    -Drain Punch
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 80 HP/252 Atk/176 Spe
    Item: Choice Band
    Ability: Iron Fist

    Golurk is immune to DynamicPunch and ThunderPunch and can take a Stone Edge. Band-boosted Earthquakes will hurt Machamp a lot.
     
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    Gyarados w/Lum Berry
    Ability: Moxie
    Adamant nature
    252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
    ~ Dragon Dance
    ~ Waterfall
    ~ Bounce
    ~ Earthquake

    Gyarados is a lot faster than Golurk, so it would always be the one to strike the first move. Gyarados' defensive stats aren't totally bad, so it should be able to endure an attack or two that the opponent throws at it. The first thing Gyarados would do is use Dragon Dance. This would raise its Attack and Speed stats, and enable it to land stronger attacks. When it's done, it would use Waterfall, which would take out Golurk with a single hit. Thanks to Moxie, this would raise his Attack once more, allowing it to get through any Pokémon that the opponent manages to send out on the field. If you're able to utilize Gyarados the right way, then you'll be winning the match in an instant. (:
     

    Victreebel's Bro

    The Day Is My Enemy
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  • Jolteon
    252 sp.atk/4 sp.def/252 spe
    Timid nature @Life orb
    -Thunder/Thunderbolt
    -Hidden Power Ice
    -Shadow Ball
    -Signal Beam

    Any electric attack completely destroys Gyarados, and Jolteon is one of the best ways to counter Gyarados. It out speeds Gyarados and can just set off an electric type move with its impressive base 110 special attack stat (most likely Thunder because normally Gyarados is in the rain)
     
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  • Jolteon
    252 sp.atk/4 sp.def/252 spe
    Timid nature @Life orb
    -Thunder/Thunderbolt
    -Hidden Power Ice
    -Shadow Ball
    -Signal Beam

    Any electric attack completely destroys Gyarados, and Jolteon is one of the best ways to counter Gyarados. It out speeds Gyarados and can just set off an electric type move with its impressive base 110 special attack stat (most likely Thunder because normally Gyarados is in the rain)

    Jolteon gets OHKO'd if it switches into Waterfall or Earthquake. Jolteon is only a check, not a counter. Please read the OP for more details.

    Gyarados w/Lum Berry
    Ability: Moxie
    Adamant nature
    252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
    ~ Dragon Dance
    ~ Waterfall
    ~ Bounce
    ~ Earthquake

    Suicune @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Hydro Pump
    - Calm Mind
    - Ice Beam
    - Hidden Power [Electric]

    252+ Atk Gyarados Bounce vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Suicune: 132-156 (38.7 - 45.74%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

    252 SpA Suicune Hidden Power Electric vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Gyarados: 240-284 (72.5 - 85.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
     

    Dark Azelf

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    Abomasnow@Leftovers
    248HP / 92Def / 40SpAtk / 96SpDef / 32Spd
    Quiet nature
    - Wood Hammer
    - Leech Seed
    - Blizzard
    - Substitute

    Hard walls Suicune basically, sets up a sub and can use wood hammer and leech seed to stall it and defeat it, evs outspeeds Blissey.
     
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  • Entei @ Choice Band
    252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Flare Blitz
    - ExtremeSpeed
    - Stone Edge
    - Hidden Power Grass
     
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  • Suicune @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk
    - Surf

    252+ Atk Choice Band Entei Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Suicune: 107-127 (26.48 - 31.43%) -- possible 4HKO
    HP Grass: 18.31 - 21.78%

    0 SpA Suicune Surf vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Entei: 236-282 (63.61 - 76.01%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
     

    Dark Azelf

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    Ludicolo@Leftovers
    252 hp / 40 Def / 216 Sp.Def
    Calm Nature
    - Leech Seed
    - Protect
    - Giga Drain
    - Scald

    Hard walls cune. Giga Drain, Leech Seed and 4x resistance to its STAB move.
     

    Zeffy

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    Bouffalant @leftovers
    Sap Sipper
    156 HP / 252 Atk / 100 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Substitute
    - Head Charge
    - Earthquake
    - Swords Dance

    As far as KOing is concerned, the best Ludicolo can do is a 5hko with Scald. If afro thing catches a lucky Grass-type move, a +1 Atk Head Charge is a ohko. Otherwise, it's a 2hko.
     

    Pokedra

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    Abomasnow @ Choice Band
    252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Ice Shard
    - Wood Hammer
    - Earthquake
    - Avalanche / Focus Punch

    Can tank anything Ludicolo has (except unlucky Scald burn) and will cleanly OHKO with Wood Hammer after SR.

    Edit: Greninjaed
     
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  • Bouffalant @leftovers
    Sap Sipper
    156 HP / 252 Atk / 100 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Substitute
    - Head Charge
    - Earthquake
    - Swords Dance

    Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Shadow Ball
    - Focus Blast
    - Hidden Power [Fire]

    Gengar can safely switch in to any of Bouffalant's offensive moves and proceed to 3HKO it with Sludge Bomb.
     

    Dark Azelf

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    Bouffalant @leftovers
    Sap Sipper
    156 HP / 252 Atk / 100 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Substitute
    - Head Charge
    - Earthquake
    - Swords Dance

    As far as KOing is concerned, the best Ludicolo can do is a 5hko with Scald. If afro thing catches a lucky Grass-type move, a +1 Atk Head Charge is a ohko. Otherwise, it's a 2hko.

    If Scald burns then you lose. ;(

    Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Shadow Ball
    - Focus Blast
    - Hidden Power [Fire]

    Gengar can safely switch in to any of Bouffalant's offensive moves and proceed to 3HKO it with Sludge Bomb.

    Blissey@Leftovers
    252 Def / 112 Sp.Atk / 52 Sp.Def / 92 Speed
    Calm Nature
    Trait: Natural Cure
    - Wish
    - Protect
    - Toxic
    - Flamethrower

    Focus Blast: 27.3% - 32.3%

    Evs outspeed Scizor.
     

    Zeffy

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    Slowbro @Choice Specs
    Trait: Regenerator OR Own Tempo
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
    Modest nature
    - Psychic
    - Surf / Hydro Pump
    - Fire Blast
    - Ice Beam

    Own Tempo is good to avoid Dynamic Punch confusion.

    If Scald burns then you lose. ;(
    I've completely forgotten about that haha. I suppose the set has 30% fatality rate then
     
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