News Bikes and HMs gone in Sun and Moon

Started by bobandbill October 18th, 2016 11:35 PM
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Two more staples of the series seem to be gone! The Move Deleter has made Pokemon forget HMs permanently, and Tauros probably ran over your bike too.

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I knew Poke Ride was going to replace HMs, but never expected it replacing the Bicycle as well. Guess that instead of riding the bicycle, we'll now all be riding Tauros around instead.
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At least some of well-received HMs like Surf is still there even though in form of TMs, and I didn't expected that Poké Ride is there as the replacement of Bike (and HMs as well)... but then, I think it's fun riding on Pokémon for real after testing one in the Demo :) And another plus side is that I don't have to put some HM on my Pokémon in order to advance in the game, so that it gives more room for my Pokémon team rosters.

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I realized that with HMs gone, Alola might not even have a Move Deleter anymore since Poke Ride killed off his main purpose. Move Relearners will still be here to stay though.
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Will miss them. Surf was fun when it was up.
Surf, Fly and Waterfall are going to be renumbered as TMs, so you're not losing it completely.
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HMs need to be ridded of since a long time ago, I am glad!

Not going to be entirely comfortable about not being able to get on a bike now, but at least there is a Tauros for riding!
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It's been a long time coming for HMs and they have been getting more and more of a nusiance. I'm glad they're keeping a few of the staple ones as they are pretty good in-game wise. I can see the reason for no bikes though. The region is smaller and since the default animation is now running they probably didn't see a need to include it.

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It's been a long time coming for HMs and they have been getting more and more of a nusiance. I'm glad they're keeping a few of the staple ones as they are pretty good in-game wise. I can see the reason for no bikes though. The region is smaller and since the default animation is now running they probably didn't see a need to include it.
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Not suprised about HMs, But am about the bikes.
Also, what if registering items is gone too? Y seems to be repurposed
D-pad serves that purpose now, going by the Demo. It can be also used for quick selection of Riding Pokemon. Explains why we can't move with the D-pad.

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The Y button no longer registers Key Items? Damn, this generation has been changing things way too drastically but I hope that button gets a new purpose.
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HM's are finally gone! FINALLY GONE!!!
After all these years of destroying move pools and taking up my sixth party slot, they have finally been put to rest!
Ding dong the HM's are dead! The HM's are dead! *Does a small dance to "Wizard of Oz music"
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really I thought that they might not actually remove HMs just because people have been complaining about them for eons, y'know, just to screw with us

So this'll be great provided the Pokemon riding feature is a good replacement.

Don't miss the bike either, I only ever really bother to use it when breeding, and if we get a replacement for it I'm good.
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I would have missed the bike, but since we can ride Tauros everywhere, there is no need for it really. So I am not disappointed.

Originally I didn't think they would get rid of bikes. However, that was before I knew we could ride a Tauros everywhere.

I am disappointed that Strength is gone. It was one of the best Normal Type Attacks.

I just wish we didn't have to wear that crappy outfit during wild encounters.

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Will you still be able to fly or surf with your Pokemon(with the TMs) like in previous games or is there some replacement for that as well?
I still like the idea of using my own Pokemon for transportation.
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As was actually pretty annoyed when I saw this in the headline, if only because I've been dodging info about the games and so far the headlines had been pretty vague about things.

But that's completely beaten by them getting rid of HMs, the biggest anti-fun mechanic in the series. I swear, S&M are getting better by the day. Really contending for the best entries in the series at this point.
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Both of these removals don't phase me, more so the HMS as they were a pain to deal with in the first place. When playing the demo, I found that the Poké Ride system is a fine replacement for the Bicycle. We still have Surf, Fly, and Waterfall as TMs which is another good change imo.