A new type idea! (Version 2.0)

[SmashBrony]

I have a thead about my new type idea, but instead of reviving it, I'm making this new one
& hopefully it'll be more interesting.

Up-dated as of Aug 2, 2014

The new type:
Beast
Why?:
This was orignally going to be the Monster-type, impired by the Monster
egg group. However, the word "Monster" proved to be too generic...
A pile of toxic goo with eyes?
MONSTER!!!
A horribly misshapen person?
MONSTER!!!
A perfectly formed person that is cruel?
MONSTER!!!
Anything massive?
MONSTER!!!
By now, you should get my point...

But Beast is FAR more specfic & upon reflection, is more of what I've been imagening
for this type...
Here is the dictonary defention I found of "Beast":
Any 4-footed animal, which may be used for labor, food or sport:
distinguished from birds, insects, fishes & man, & appiled especially
to large animals.

Pokemon of the Beast-type won't be monstly limited to the Monster egg group as I
orignally wanted, but it should be MUCH clearer of which pokemon could be this type.

Specfically, larger mammal-like pokemon with 4 legs, like Tauros & Entei would be Beast-type
& pokemon like Donphan & Beartic, of which are obiviously based off of large, 4-legged
mammals would be Beast-typed.
Pokemon like Persian, Zoroark, Chesnaught, Etc., would all be exculded for being based off of small animals.

(I thought it'd be cool to focus this type on the mammal-like pokemon, as Dragon focuses on
reptilan pokemon, many Water-types are fishes, insects have a type all their own in Bug & many
Flying-types being birds.)


The type match-ups:
Attacks Super-Effective Vs.:
Fire, Water, Dragon, Steel

Attacks not very effective Vs.:
Grass, Psychic, Beast

Attacks has no effect Vs.:
Ice

Pokemon resists:
Ground, Dragon, Beast

Pokemon weak to:
Grass, Bug, Psychic

Why does the type work this way?:
The only way I know of to try to further balance the type chart is to look at each indiviual types.
Fire & Water each has twice the resistances than they do weakness, so I made the Beast-type
super effective. However, Beast will not be resistant to them, as Fire & Water already has
equal number of types that their attacks are & are not effective against.

Dragons has 4 resistances & 3 weakness, but one of which can back-fire. (if using another Dragon
rather than being smart & using a different typed pokemon with a Dragon attack.)
Beast will provide an another reliable counter, as their attacks will be super-effective
& will resist Dragon attacks due to their VERY wide netual coverage.
(if looking at netual coverage, Dragon is the best attacking type, with only 3 of the
19 type in this case resisting or being immune.)

Steel is given the Beast-type weakness, as it has more resistances than it does
types that hits it for netual or super-effective damage. (& it has a immunity to boot!)
But Beast won't have a Steel resistance, as there is one more type that resists Steel
than there are types that are weak to it.

Beast attacks will be useless against the Ice-type, as it is without a doubt, the
WORST defensive type (so STOP making defeinsive Ice-Types, TrollFreak!)
& Ice has an equal number of types that are weak/resistant to it, so Beast
won't be weak to it.

Ground & Fighting are tied for being the best attacking types in the terms of having the greatest
super effective coverage, but Ground has a better netual coverage, so that's why Beast will
resist Ground & not Fighting.

Grass & Bug are super effective against Beast for the same reason:
They have 7 types that resists them while only 3 are weak to them.
The reason that Grass has Beast resistance while Bug doesn't is because Grass has more
weaknesses than resistances while the Bug-type has an equal number of weaknesses & resistances.

With the Psychic type being super effective & resistant against Beasts,
they'll then have a equal number of types that are super-effective, not very effective,
resistant & weak to them.

Beast resists their own attacks, so in this way, the Beast type is super-effective against
4 types, not effective against 4, resists 3 & are weak to 3.

If any of you see anything wrong with how this type works, be sure to tell me
what's wrong with it & why.

What older attacks would become Beast-type?
The more animalistic Normal-type ones, like Horn Attack, Crush Claw, Roar,
Noble Roar, Howl, Etc.

Which of the older pokemon will be Beast-type? (new)
In alphabetcial order, all of the currently existing pokemon I'd retype:
Arcanine (Fire/Beast), Arceus (with Feral Plate), Beartic (Ice/Beast), Bouffalant (Nomal/Beast),
Cubchoo (Ice/Beast), Donphan (Ground/Beast), Entei (Fire/Beast), Growlithe (Fire/Beast),
Hippopotas (Ground/Beast), Hippowdon (Ground/Beast), Luxio (Electric/Beast), Luxray (Electrc/Beast),
Milktank (Normal/Beast), Phanpy (Ground/Beast), Raikou (Electric/Beast), Shinx (Electric/Beast),
Suicune (Water/Beast), Tauros (Beast), Teddiursa (Beast), Ursaring (Beast).

 

[Trick 'r Treat]

I Love this type idea. I think it'd be really cool!!!!


Pokemon I think should be Monster Type:
Grimer - Poison, Monster
Muk- Poison, Monster
Tangela- Grass, Monster
Tangrowth- Grass, Monster
Mega Slaking- Monster
Whismur- Monster
Loudred- Monster
Exploud- Monster
Zangoose- Normal, Monster
Audino- Normal, Monster
Garbodor- Poison, Monster

 

[Hiatus]

Overall, your idea is great! Of course, not everything is flawless, and neither is this, unfortunately; due to that, one thing I would consider changing is perhaps its name. "Monster" does roll off your tongue quite nicely, but in a way, it does seem kind of silly, considering that Pokémon are already monsters--all of them. As you already know, "Pokémon" is the short form of "Pocket Monsters." I'm not sure what else we'd rather choose, though. Maybe "fiend," if that doesn't sound too weird? Another suggestion would be savage. Beast could've worked, if only it weren't for those reasons that you had stated, haha.

As for which Pokémon would be categorized in this type-group, the list above seems fantastic, in my opinion. Alongside, few others I would include is Zoroark, Vigoroth, Mightyena, Raikou, Suicune, and Entei.

 

[SmashBrony]

Thanks for your replies!

Yeah, I'm still working on this...

& again I'm considering going with the Beast-type...
This is because it'd be MUCH easier to decide which pokemon would be
Beast-type or not...

Here's the dictonary denfintion I found of Beast:
"Any 4-footed animal, which may be
used for labor, food, or sport; distinguished
from birds, insects, fishes & man, and
applied especially to large animals; as, beasts of
burden; beasts of the chase; Beasts of the forest."

So to sum up what would be a Beast-type Pokemon:
Pokemon that are 4-legged, mammalian & large (Such as Tauros)
or Pokemon that are based off of large, 4-legged animals. (such as Beartic)

Yeah, this type wouldn't be mostly limited to the Monster egg group like I originally
wanted, but it'd be simpler to decide which pokemon would & would not be my new type.

Here's a list of possible Beast types: (in no specfic order)
Tauros (Beast), Raikou (Electric/Beast), Entei (Fire/Beast), Suicune (Water/Beast),
Miltank (Normal/Beast), Shinx, Luxio, Luxray (Electric/Beast),
Teddiursa & Ursaring (Beast), Cubchoo & Beartic (Ice/Beast),
Hippopotas & Hippowdon (Ground/Beast), Bouffalant (Beast), Blitzle & Zebstika (Electric/Beast)
There may be a few others that can be retyped as Beast, but I belive that this would be
the majority of them.
I would exculde Litleo & Pyroar, as Pyroar the only Fire/Normal type Pokemon & I personally
would exculde Ponyta & Rapidash because I have a Fire/Flying evolution in mind for
Rapidash.

& the attacks I had in mind to retype are the more animalistic ones, like Horn Attack, Crush Claw,
Roar, Noble Roar, Etc.

So what do you guys of think of this?

@ Trick 'r Treat:
If Audino were to be retyped, I belive it'd be Fairy or Normal/Fairy...
Otherwise, your list is pretty good!

EDITED IN:
Oh, & I have noticed that all of the ideas I have for new Beast-types
somehow involves large, 4-legged animals.

 

[Pendraflare]

Interesting idea. Something that Bug and Grass could be super-effective against would certainly be nice, and make Ice a little more resilient. It's hard to say what i'd change to that type though...

 

[Nah]

Still having a hard time with the name, eh? I don't remember if the way you have it in the type chart is the same as last time, but I like how you have it.

A few Pokemon I'd retype into the Monster/Beast type would be:
Haxorus (Dragon/Monster)
Gyarados (Water/Monster) <---Water Flying never made sense for that one.
Granbull (Normal/Monster) <----That thing is NOT the "Fairy Pokemon" Game Freak.

As for a move, maybe Howl could become Monster/Beast type?

And funnily enough, the Mareep line is part of the Monster Egg group. lol

Ponyta & Rapidash because I have a Fire/Flying evolution in mind for
Rapidash.

Please tell me you're going to turn Rapidash into a blazing pegicorn

 

[SmashBrony]

Still having a hard time with the name, eh? I don't remember if the way you have it in the type chart is the same as last time, but I like how you have it.

A few Pokemon I'd retype into the Monster/Beast type would be:
Haxorus (Dragon/Monster)
Gyarados (Water/Monster) <---Water Flying never made sense for that one.
Granbull (Normal/Monster) <----That thing is NOT the "Fairy Pokemon" Game Freak.

As for a move, maybe Howl could become Monster/Beast type?

And funnily enough, the Mareep line is part of the Monster Egg group. lol


Please tell me you're going to turn Rapidash into a blazing pegicorn

I'm leaning towards calling it the Beast-type, as that is a MUCH more specfic name...

Anyways, the only change I made to the type chart is to remove Rock & Beast's resistance to each other...
This is because Rock is already balanced in a way, being super-effective to 1 more type than not very effective
& having 1 more weakness than resistance.
Although, not having rock resistance does hurts my griffon pokemon idea a bit...

Oh yeah, Howl... that'd fit as a Beast-type move!

EDITED IN: (Up-date)
Done with editing the first post!

 

[Altairis]

Ooohh, I think this is a really interesting idea that I like a lot. You have this really well thought out, which is nice. I like it mostly because if it weren't handed out to a bunch of Pokemon it could classify them nicely and better than just "Normal-type" could. Some moves, like the ones you listed, would also fit into Beast-type. :]

I don't think all larger animal-type Pokemon should be typed as Beast, because then I think this type would become too generic and simple because it could apply to sooo many different Pokemon.

 

[SmashBrony]

Ooohh, I think this is a really interesting idea that I like a lot. You have this really well thought out, which is nice. I like it mostly because if it weren't handed out to a bunch of Pokemon it could classify them nicely and better than just "Normal-type" could. Some moves, like the ones you listed, would also fit into Beast-type. :]

I don't think all larger animal-type Pokemon should be typed as Beast, because then I think this type would become too generic and simple because it could apply to sooo many different Pokemon.

Not just any animals, large-sized land mammals, such as bulls, elephants, tigers, bears, etc.

I've been looking though all the different pokemon there are now & there is a big handful of pokemon I'd
retype as Beast, but from what I can tell, it won't be too many.

 

[Nah]

Eh, it doesn't matter too much if there's a lot of Beast types; Normal and Water have far more Pokemon than any other type in the game (and those 2 types, especially Normal, are kinda broad and generic).