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Nimsy said:
Slight Fos on ullion for wanting to rl when the safer option is to nl.
If we end up voting an important role that would either give the mafia an advantage, or give the mafia a great target.

[vote] no one
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Personally I think an rl on day 1 is a safer option in the long term, whereas NLing would be safer in the short term. Since it's day 1, I think getting info earlier is better, and frankly I think we're off to a reasonable start with a mix of discussion and minor accusations and baiting. ^^

With that being said - I more-or-less trust Johnny, not 100% (I mean, he COULD be pulling a fast one on the lot of us). But I have no reason to scrutinize him yet with no info, and he seems to be pushing pretty hard for more info early as well - which I like, so I'll follow the lynch attempt for today.

[lynch] honey

Hopefully more than anything, we get some discussion from honey. :3
 
wow, my first game being back and there's already a bandwagon starting on me, cute, 10/10.
i didn't say much yesterday because i was at work, i logged on realizing that the game had started, went back to sleep and now here we are.

JohnnyMustang said:
If we must, I'll go with Superjolt's judgement and [Lynch]honey

This will probably change, take it as an incentive. If honey's mafia she should be hard to read according to Superjolt.
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if we are going by this correlation of mafia = hard to read then i'd like to present a few of the games i've played in the past which i have been considered "hard read": april mafoolia, tokyo ghoul, once upon a time, the nightmare before christmafia, grandmafia, ect. in one i was third party, in one i was mafia, and i believe the rest, even the unlisted ones, i was town. i've never been a very vocal player partially because of time constraints and because i've wanted to remain consistent in my playing style.
 
Superjolt said:
This is mostly my opinion, but I think GB is practically unreadable in most games
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JohnnyMustang said:
GB is here? lol.
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Ah, the great question of every d1, rl or nl?
 
GB is usually hardest to read, now that I'm thinking about it. Even in EM, I can never tell. Haha.
 
JohnnyMustang said:
If we must, I'll go with Superjolt's judgement and [Lynch]honey

This will probably change, take it as an incentive. If honey's mafia she should be hard to read according to Superjolt.
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That's not quite what I said lol, I meant she's hard to read as any alignment. That's what I meant about all the people that I find hard to read, it's just hard to get a good read on them regardless of whether they're town or mafia (or third party)
Collector Elwood said:
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This is a good post from Kiyo, kind of thought the same thing about Gunner's post.

Kiyo what do you think of Ketsu?
Nimsy said:
Slight Fos on ullion for wanting to rl when the safer option is to nl.
If we end up voting an important role that would either give the mafia an advantage, or give the mafia a great target.

[vote] no one
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RL = random lynch? We're not going to random lynch, we're going to lynch someone that people find suspicious/scummy. Like, this is all you have to say in your first post of the game?
Davepetasprite^2 said:
tbf i don't really have anything to say on the matter, like i agree with most of you, idek

btw i'm not the only one who claimed to have no gun kiyo. im pretty wary on you that others also claimed to not have a gun, and you singled me out (while i admit that was a pointless post on my behalf).
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Except Kiyo didn't say you were suspicious for claiming to not have a gun? What's your point here?
honey said:
wow, my first game being back and there's already a bandwagon starting on me, cute, 10/10.
i didn't say much yesterday because i was at work, i logged on realizing that the game had started, went back to sleep and now here we are.

if we are going by this correlation of mafia = hard to read then i'd like to present a few of the games i've played in the past which i have been considered "hard read": april mafoolia, tokyo ghoul, once upon a time, the nightmare before christmafia, grandmafia, ect. in one i was third party, in one i was mafia, and i believe the rest, even the unlisted ones, i was town. i've never been a very vocal player partially because of time constraints and because i've wanted to remain consistent in my playing style.
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I think that was a misunderstanding on Johnny's part, I said you're hard to read as any alignment (town, mafia, OR third party). It is possible to be more vocal while still maintaining a consistent playstyle though :P

(stopping this post here for now)
 
Superjolt said:
I think that was a misunderstanding on Johnny's part, I said you're hard to read as any alignment (town, mafia, OR third party). It is possible to be more vocal while still maintaining a consistent playstyle though :P
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that's actually what i'm trying to do this game; i couldn't keep up in other games in the past because of school and time constraints but now it's summer and you can expect to hear more from me.

anywho, if we are going with the third set up from the bottom i'd like to point out that kaneki hasn't said anything yet. it's a possibility that he's been silenced. or just inactive, who knows
 
Kaneki doesn't speak much in general xD
We'll have to wait and see who hasn't voted at the end of the phase, probably will tell us who was silenced.

Speaking about votes, I feel satisfied with your reply, so I'll [Vote] noone
 
@superjolt
If you have eyes, you'll see that people were voting based on past experiences of who is hard to read, or to get normally quiet players to talk.
This is an idiotic course of action imo.
No one has said enough to get a proper read on anyone.

Also "LOLOL we get moar info if lynch yes!"
no. There is no reveal upon death, so it won't help in the slightest.
 
Nimsy said:
@superjolt
If you have eyes, you'll see that people were voting based on past experiences of who is hard to read, or to get normally quiet players to talk.
This is an idiotic course of action imo.
No one has said enough to get a proper read on anyone.

Also "LOLOL we get moar info if lynch yes!"
no. There is no reveal upon death, so it won't help in the slightest.
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You have got to be kidding me. The info isn't who turns up as what role. Alignment of the lynched + peoples reactions (such as yours, for example) to different lynches being made and ideas being thrown out are what I'm referring to as info. Smh Nimsy.
 
that would be all well and good if we had anything to work off of in the first place.

Of course I'm adverse to a plan that could potentially kill an important pr.

Situation:
"RL REACTION PLOX [kill] name"
"I'm pr!"
"oh dun kill pr"
*mafia kills pr that night*

Especially since we have a gs claim and two softs, the doctor's attention would be greatly divided.
This is not a good course of action, and I'm inclined to believe that the people pushing for this bad plan have a good chance of being scum.
Although it's too soon to be certain.

also, bard, please think.
If we don't lynch a maf (which is most probable) we're just helping the mafia by picking off our own.
 
Nimsy said:
that would be all well and good if we had anything to work off of in the first place.

Of course I'm adverse to a plan that could potentially kill an important pr.

Regardless of what we do, a PR is always risked no matter what. Especially with there being more PRs than not. Getting people to talk, and not just the accused (randomly or not randomly) gets us potential scum reads, alliances, baits, etc. for future phases. Openly not lynching on a day 1 cuts down on chatter, and what the innos need in day 1 is chatter - to start working on who is who, even just based on tells.

Situation:
"RL REACTION PLOX [kill] name"
"I'm pr!"
"oh dun kill pr"
*mafia kills pr that night*

Especially since we have a gs claim and two softs, the doctor's attention would be greatly divided.
This is not a good course of action, and I'm inclined to believe that the people pushing for this bad plan have a good chance of being scum.
Although it's too soon to be certain.

You mean you actually consider "3" as more divided attention for the doctor as opposed to 26 or so? Especially if those 3 claims prove to be true and they are innocents - at least the doc is protecting innocents, and not by chance protecting a mafia.

also, bard, please think.
If we don't lynch a maf (which is most probable) we're just helping the mafia by picking off our own.

Literally a risk in every single day phase of every single game. You take risks, but you make sure that when you take risks - even when you lose you still get something out of it.
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Sorry Nimsy, but I find your posts today horribly irrational and not like you at all. Either someone is playing in your spot or you got hit over the head or you're trying some way to get me (and some others) lynched for you?

I'm tempted to throw out the term anti-town for the points you brought up, but I won't. Wait, I kind of did, eh, whatever.
 
We have a nl option. Why not use it?
Especially since we have a stupid vig to deal with.

There is absolutely no other reason to push for an rl rather than to make it easier for the maf.
Only an idiot maf member would stick up for a team mate.

I would be logical to nl until we can get better reads on people, or until we get solid info.

Also, I'm not playing any different than I usually do, you're just trying to undermine me and try to make the rest of the town go along with your bad plan.
 
Would anyone be opposed to me shooting Kaneki before EoD? I think if I hold the gun for tonight, I'll be killed before I could ever use it anyway. :/ Might as well shoot it and help us all learn who Kaneki is.
 
Nimsy said:
We have a nl option. Why not use it?
Especially since we have a stupid vig to deal with.

There is absolutely no other reason to push for an rl rather than to make it easier for the maf.
Only an idiot maf member would stick up for a team mate.

I would be logical to nl until we can get better reads on people, or until we get solid info.

Also, I'm not playing any different than I usually do, you're just trying to undermine me and try to make the rest of the town go along with your bad plan.
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See this is what bothers me. You won't get as many reads if people just no lynch. There have been games where the first couple phases were nothing but "no lynch" "no lynch" etc, with hardly any communication. Using your "logic", you would be waiting forever to get reads in the thread because there wouldn't be any to get, therefore you'd keep NLing and therefore keep getting no to little info.
 
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