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JohnnyMustang said:
@honey: Simply because there's no point in hiding that information at this point on the game, you said it yourself, even if a PR role is revealed they could also be culted, thus the mafia wouldn't know who to hit.

Now that you know that, play along.
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what i'm saying is that the town can't trust role reveals with a possibility of so many people culted. plus the mafia has the scout, it's very easy for them to stalk actual PRs, kill them off, and then claim to be whatever.
 
i just don't like taking instructions from someone whom i believe is scummy, that's all.
 
the way i'm seeing it is if i don't comply i'm dead today, if i do then i won't see day seven. but whatever, i'll give in... town is good as dead anyway. i'm the doctor, hmm, this also makes me an un-cc'd role doesn't it?

i'm saying i strongly believe that the cult is still around and you're a part of it.
 
Looks like Bact is faux real :P

I also believe that the cult is still around, despite Alex's guess that Kaneki was the cultist.

Popwar Bunny said:
I'm at work for another hour and a half and then I'm going right to bed, but I thought cult couldn't recruit mafia. Don't they die if they recruit? Correct me if I'm wrong. Don't have the EM list in front of me.
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The EM page for the cultist makes no mention of what happens. We would need Lycan to clarify what happens. It's probably best to assume that they can be recruited.
 
JohnnyMustang said:
@Honey: Why do you think that I am part of the cult? If you think a little harder you'll realize that I had to keep pushing my ideas for days to convince the town, without any sort of backup. The only backup I've had so far was Bard giving me the thumbs up about Alex. It took me a few days to get Alex lynched, besides I had little but none support. Explain to me, why do you think I am a part of the cult?

EDIT: Also, honey, have you prevented any deaths?
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you've been leading the town since pretty much day one which makes you look like the least scummy of them all. if i were a cultist i'd target those who i found to be the least suspicious to join me. plus it seems like your motives have changed since day one, remember when you wanted to get all of the quiet people talking? what happened to that?

also i'm not sure if you're trying to get me to slip up but how would i know? i can only hope that i saved some lives.. although i think it's worth noting that i protected nimsy n1 and no one died, n2 i protected someone else and she was killed. dunno if that just a coincidence or what
 
honey said:
you've been leading the town since pretty much day one which makes you look like the least scummy of them all. if i were a cultist i'd target those who i found to be the least suspicious to join me. plus it seems like your motives have changed since day one, remember when you wanted to get all of the quiet people talking? what happened to that?
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I disagree, he got you to start talking. :P
 
since day one as in after day one that whole forcing people to talk was history xP
 
i wasn't inactive day one and you went after me. you said on day one that you'd go after the people who are usually quiet and try to make them talk and i haven't seen much of it.

protected elwood N2

forcing the elusive players to talk, yes. alex, golgari, and i have consistently posted and have added some substance to the conversation at one point or another. while there are players like nagi, nightcrow, or GB sliding by with a mere 8 or 9 posts.
 
It's quite possible that Jonny was recruited. He was un-cc'd and was leading the town since the beginning. He'd be a great choice for recruitment. Also, and this might just be my imagination, his attitude changed slightly in some way I can't quite put my finger on. EDIT: I should refresh my page before replying. Didn't see Johnny's post above.

JohnnyMustang said:
Still waiting for those roleclaims: Honey, Ketsu, Klippy.
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Softly reread my previous post please. (:
 
JohnnyMustang said:
I went after you on d1 when Superjolt said that you barely posted in games.

Right now is too late to go after inactives, a mislynch could costs us the game at this point. We could have Bact kill them, but during the day I'd rather go with my reads. It's day six, I've had plenty of time to make reads. You can't play the same you did on D1, on mid-late game. If that were true we would just random lynch the entire game lol.

Even if I am part of the cult, assuming your farfetched ideas are true: We've established that is highly unlikely that the cultist has more than two followers, meaning that I'd also like to kill the mafia, so why are you wasting everybody's time with this? You sadly cannot prove if I'm part of the cult, even if we had actual confirmation of a cultist it wouldn't be wise to waste our lynch on them.
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my point is that i'm the only "elusive" player you went after, after day one you gave up that whole "i'm going to get all of the quiet people to talk" jazz. which signifies a change in motive, perhaps you were culted, perhaps not, doesn't change what i believe.

johnny it takes two to tango and we've gotten absolutely nowhere with this. if there is one thing i agree with you on it would be that the mafia needs to go.

now if you'll excuse me i'll be taking my butt to bed
 
I'm a villager as well. Has anyone visited any of the blue claims to see who is the loudmouth? Plus one of us is a miller, unless the mafia managed to kill them.


Edit/ there's more to read and it's time for work. Sorry for being quiet, I'm trying to make sure I can post a couple of times a day at least, but work is killing me.
 
It's possible that the loudmouth was one of the inactive deaths - simply because I feel like everyone should have been visited by someone at least once by this point. :P
 
I'm the Bleeder. Haven't started bleeding obviously.

Edit: Nina was likely the GS. She would have given me the gun out of all three of those and I don't think Cay would have picked me first.
 
Okay, after taking 10.5 hours to read Johnny and Honey's salt war, I can post confidently now. Here is my extremely intelligent, well thought out speech.

IDK wuz' happinz dawgz. I'm like totes Mcgoats the Blacksmith yo.
 
jdthebud said:
The EM page for the cultist makes no mention of what happens. We would need Lycan to clarify what happens. It's probably best to assume that they can be recruited.
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Elektra Heart said:
Mafia can be be recruited by the cult in Epicmafia.
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Can confirm the cult has indeed been able to recruit mafia this whole game.
 
CatmanDaTrainer said:
Well this just complicates things even more...
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I wouldn't say it complicates, but I do believe it gives my earlier theory more merit. Obviously we have no way to know for sure, but going by the trend of 3rd party deaths at a high rate, I do think at least one mafia members has been recruited then killed. If this is true, then it complicates things in the sense of 'Who do we consider a larger threat now: mafia or cult'?
 
honestly, if i didn't know for sure that Johnny isn't a cultist, i'd be suss af of him... are we sure he can't be mafia still? haha
i guess i'll also share that Ketsu, Ullion, Kiyo and Bardo cannot be the cult leaders either - but i don't know about their current alignment.

i also don't know what you're talking about - plenty of people with roles have likely died, so it shouldn't be hard for the mafia to make a roleclaim that goes uncc'ed, if they just wait out until all the innos have claimed the remaining ones. hence i'll wait with claiming mine... but really you should be able to know what i am from what i said above already, lol.

as for our game so far, which has obviously been crappy... i guess it's clear that at least some mafia are in this group of vocal people. who it is i'm sadly still unsure of - i'll do some read-over again to see if i can find out anything :/ i'm sorry, i'm terrible at reading people

currently i'm most suspicious of Ketsu and Bardo - wasn't there a drunk softclaim earlier in the game already? i'll go scour through some posts and see if i can find anything.
EDIT: also Desinishon! i just realised i thought he was suss before already too...

hope this helps. lol
 
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