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5th Gen Base Stats Discussion

Mewtwo Vs Genosect

  • Mewtwo

    Votes: 5 50.0%

  • Genosect

    Votes: 5 50.0%
  • Total voters
    10
The majority of Pokemon from the last 4 generations are all about to find homes in the UU tier, you could fill out the uber/OU tier with gen 5 Pokemon alone . :/
 
the candle ghost thing has 145 sp.atk? i can actually imagine an alakazam being all snobby having the highest sp.atk of all non legends and then the candle ghost thing comes in and totally anhialates it.. poor alakazam its last claim to fame is gone :(
 
StratusJm said:
the candle ghost thing has 145 sp.atk? i can actually imagine an alakazam being all snobby having the highest sp.atk of all non legends and then the candle ghost thing comes in and totally anhialates it.. poor alakazam its last claim to fame is gone :(
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Candlier (as i affectionatly dub it) is a monster. Even at base 80 Speed, run Timid and slap a choice scarf on it and use it as your revenge killer. O_0 Yowza.
 
StratusJm said:
the candle ghost thing has 145 sp.atk? i can actually imagine an alakazam being all snobby having the highest sp.atk of all non legends and then the candle ghost thing comes in and totally anhialates it.. poor alakazam its last claim to fame is gone :(
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Holy shnizzlets!! For reals? I don't even care or know barely anything about stats, but I have noticed how powerful Alakazam is with its Sp. Atk. It's SERIOUSLY being toppled over by a ghost chandelier? T_T
 
Haha I think its SPAt is a little unrealistic, but oh well. It looks awesome and is like super dooper powerful, which is why I put it on my team.
 
ManhattanTheStarr said:
Holy shnizzlets!! For reals? I don't even care or know barely anything about stats, but I have noticed how powerful Alakazam is with its Sp. Atk. It's SERIOUSLY being toppled over by a ghost chandelier? T_T
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um-hm and by a long way too. alakazam-135 ghost candle thing-145

i pity alakazam.. maybe it will get nasty plot this gen and it will be all better :)
 
Live_Wire466 said:
Candlier (as i affectionatly dub it) is a monster. Even at base 80 Speed, run Timid and slap a choice scarf on it and use it as your revenge killer. O_0 Yowza.
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i know right i am defo getting it. plus i love its design.

but i just realised something. what will become of gengar? OU for 4 straight generations and now surely the candle thing will take its place :O
 
Live_Wire466 said:


Candlier (as i affectionatly dub it) is a monster. Even at base 80 Speed, run Timid and slap a choice scarf on it and use it as your revenge killer. O_0 Yowza.
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Yeah it's a scary pokemon...also imagine if they had a First attack Special ghost or fire move that we have yet to know about 0_0...
 
StratusJm said:
the candle ghost thing has 145 sp.atk? i can actually imagine an alakazam being all snobby having the highest sp.atk of all non legends and then the candle ghost thing comes in and totally anhialates it.. poor alakazam its last claim to fame is gone :(
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Alakazam was overtaken by Porygon-Z (who wasn't made out of paper, Pursuit Weak, had an ability that actually complimented it's strength, and had the power to boost it's Sp. Atk.)long before the candle came along. Interestingly however, the candle is 10 points slower and slightly frailer then Z, meaning that Porygon-Z isn't completely out-classed, and can still find it's own usage...Maybe.

Assuming the candle does reach standard, I see something in it's Choice Scarf set that's going to be great for a certain other Pokémon, though.

PORYGON2 was sent out.
PORYGON2 traced Flash Fire!
"Candle" used Flame Thrower!
PORYGON2 absorbed the attack!

And:

PORYGON2 was sent out.
PORYGON traced Flash Fire!
"Candle" used Shadow Ball!
It didn't effect PORYGON2!
Things are looking brighter already. :]

...

Upon closer inspection, it appears this Candle monster has access to Shadow Tag! So it looks like countering it is out of the question! In other news however, in order to compensate for Download no longer being a unique move to the Porygon line, they get a new ability! Can Z match up to it's slow, harder hitting rival? Or will it be overshadowed and doomed in permanent BL for the rest of the Black/White Metagame? Time can only tell...
 
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Niprop said:

Alakazam was overtaken by Porygon-Z (who wasn't made out of paper, Pursuit Weak, had an ability that actually complimented it's strength, and had the power to boost it's Sp. Atk.)long before the candle came along. Interestingly however, the candle is 10 points slower and slightly frailer then Z, meaning that Porygon-Z isn't completely out-classed, and can still find it's own usage...Maybe.

Assuming the candle does reach standard, I see something in it's Choice Scarf set that's going to be great for a certain other Pokémon, though.

PORYGON2 was sent out.
PORYGON2 traced Flash Fire!
"Candle" used Flame Thrower!
PORYGON2 absorbed the attack!

And:

PORYGON2 was sent out.
PORYGON traced Flash Fire!
"Candle" used Shadow Ball!
It didn't effect PORYGON2!

Things are looking brighter already. :]
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but alakazam is psychic which is better than normal, has a far higher speed stat, has calm mind (i dont know if porygon has access to that) and a slightly more expansive movepool.

but yay for porygon being able to defeat candle thingy :P
 
Zuruzukin has some odd stats for a Dark/Fighting type. It acually reminds me of a reversed version of blissey. (low hp, high defenses.) A good staller for some reason.l
 
Para-Dox said:
Zuruzukin has some odd stats for a Dark/Fighting type. It acually reminds me of a reversed version of blissey. (low hp, high defenses.) A good staller for some reason.l
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In that aspect it's more like a Shuckle who has high Defenses but low HP :)
 
hahaha meloia step form

100/128/90/77/77/128 - normal / fighting

can't wait to spam close combat with this thing =D

A lot of other ones are hilarious, as well. Genie "trio" looks extremely solid, along with the Fighting quartet (I'm including Mister Pony!). Shanderaa with Shadow Tag will be fun, Daruma Mode Hihidaruma sounds like a gimmick I'd be willing to try, Kirikizan looks pretty strong, and Desukan looks like it may be my new spin blocker over Rotom, which has now lost its Ghost typing (seriously? D:). If I ever decide to play stall again, that is, which looks unlikely. lol, Game Freak handed out 125+ base stats like candy... I'm not complaining, though. :) This new metagame looks kinda fun.
 
Live_Wire466 said:


The Dragon/Ice (the presumed third legend) has 130 Att and 130 SpA. Talk about a powerful mixed attacker. Yowza.

Man Gamefreak did go pretty crazy on the stats this time. xD
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They did go crazy but some of them are way low like Hihidurama's SA, and it's Durama mode's A...
 
Sazando has a base stat total of 600.

definitely pseudo legendary.
but evolution at level 64 ? oh srsly.
 
Urugamosu is serious business. 550? Yeah, on my team. Also, he can learn Solarbeam and Wild Bolt, which makes him OP.

Sazando. The only thing I hate about it is it's a Special Dragon, and the Dark Type means Fighting/Bug Pokemon will have their way against him, but I guess his decent defense makes up for it. Also, Special Dragons will have a hard time sweeping.

And I find it unusual that the lamprey-baby thing doesn't evolve until 39 and has horrible stats until then. It's like Meraruba evolving until 59.
 
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