Battle Tower (Information, Discussion, etc - like your neighborhood Ursaring)

[BeachBoy]

Battle Tower

Members here at PokéCommunity, can look all 'round, but never find a thread dealing with one of the major post-elite-four challenges, the Battle Tower. We've had a few of you even post threads (only to end up rejected D:) and crammed over into the Request a Team. Members have indeed been nagging me to get a "BT Post Your Team" thread going, so after being barked at to the core, I'm finally here to present the all 'n' one Battle Tower thread. What's the going to accomplish? Well, it'll provide more organization from the Request a Team thread, and give members a place to share those hax stories and share teams, ideas & concepts, ask for help, etc. The overall design of this thread comes from the Battle Tower Records thread on Smogon. (So major credit goes to Peterko, Jumpman16, and Team Rocket Elite) When we thought this thread up, we really wanted to deliver it all to you guys, and couldn't find a better way, this is why it's more or less carbon copy of Smogon's. It's incredible, and we can't thank them enough.

Important Links & Notes

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DP Battle Tower Movesets
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https://mewn.psupedia.info/Pokemon/BTMovesets.htm
https://wcoceania.bravehost.com/Battl...r%20Table.html
https://133780x.argentosonline.com/BattleTowerStats.html
https://www.upokecenter.com/games/dp/...btpokemon.html
https://www.psypokes.com/dp/battletower_teams.php?id=223

Other useful links
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DP Battle Tower Speed Tiers

DP Battle Tower Trainers above battle 49 (thanks to Team Rocket Elite)

DP Battle Tower Trainers above battle 49 and their Pokémon (A rewritten list of Peteko's so it lists actual Pokémon and their sets)

Notes
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Note from Jumpman that "the natures/speeds listed in these links reflect the misconception that natures are predetermined, like the moves, items, EV spreads. They, indeed, are not. Natures, like Abilities, are assigned randomly. For example, the three Weavile that the first (mewn) link states are Jolly could actually be Bold or Sassy or Gentle when you face them. Likewise, your 31 IV max speed Timid Gengar may not outspeed the Rain Dance Starmie that that link lists as Modest, as it could be Timid itself or even Hasty or Naive. There is, therefore, a 16% chance that an AI poke's stat is a beneficial Nature, and the same 16% chance it's hindering. Account for this randomness accordingly."
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And from Peteko: after battle 49 you will face 100 trainers, out of which 80 use flawless IV (perfect) Pokémon and 20 (the following list) use 21 IV Pokémon (which means around 5 point lower stats at lv.50):
- Camper Justyn & Camper Leland
- Cowgirl Margot & Cowgirl Sophie
- Guitarist Markell & Guitarist Marquez
- Idol Claudia & Idol Maranda
- Picnicker Kyra & Picnicker Serena
- Pokéfan Carley, Pokéfan Selina, Pokéfan Cecil & Pokéfan Ted
- PKMN Breeder Emilee, PKMN Breeder Tiffani, PKMN Breeder Blair & PKMN Breeder Harvey
- Rancher Alton & Rancher Kellen
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Records

Please state clearly how many wins in a row you achieved and what team (including movesets, EVs and items) you used.

Please post a pic of your ingame screen record as proof if your record is above 200 in the single tower and enough to be TOP 3 otherwise.
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[ Small notes: "~" means a non-finished streak. Bold and italics means it included Platinum Tradebacks. ]
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DP Battle Tower Single Records

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1. BeachBoy ( 164 ) Uxie, Garchomp, Scizor
2. Dark_Azelf ( 148 ) Rotom, Lucario, Latios ; ( 109 ) Typhlosion, Garchomp, Suicune
3. Angelix Diablo (112) Hippowdon, Garchomp, Lucario
4. Zetta-Chan ( 109 ) Mespirit, Garchomp, Lucario
5. dark_seeker ( 108 ) Gengar, Garchomp, Cresselia
6. Canadian Dirt ( 104 ) Scizor, Azelf, Umbreon
7. ABYAY ( 100 ) Salamence, Swampert, Lucario
8. DunderMifflinite ( 68 ) Garchomp, Tyranitar, Milotic​

Remember, this is the place you can ask for help with Battle Tower teams 'n' such as well. I'll post my team 'n' all that jazz later once we develop this thread. Gogogo!

 

[Dark Azelf]

Well ill post my team

Typhlosion@Choice Scarf
252 SP.ATT /252 SPEED/ 6 HP
Modest Nature
- Hidden power Ice
- Eruption
- Lava Plume
- Focus Blast

Well i originally had Focus Punch >> Blast with a Mild Nature, but meh i found it rather useless and focus blast does more net damage anyways. Regardless scarf Eruption is really cheap and it usually takes out the first 2 pokes anyway. Lava Plume is for burning stuff and for once Eruption powers down if i get hit etc and hp ice is for dragons, coverage and what not.


Garchomp@Life Orb
252 ATT / 252 SPEED /6 HP
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Fire Fang
- Earthquake

Bread and butter Garchomp, do i need to say what this does ? =/ It clears up late game once phlosion has ripped through stuff.


Suicune@Leftovers
252 HP / 104 SP.ATT / 152 SPEED
Modest Nature
- Substitute
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- Surf

As you can tell, this team has trouble with bulky waters....well not now, since this sets up on them =] and sweeps so easilly its unreal.

This team got me to 109 won in singles and i failed against (ill post proof later if i can)

602 	Lapras 	Calm 	Leppa Berry 	Sheer Cold 	Sleep Talk 	Rest 	Double Team 	HP/Def/Sp. Def

=/

Speaking of which, in theory this team has trouble with lapras (dd versions etc), but i actually outplayed most of them since typhlosion rips them a new one. Just hax-ness Lapras broke me T_T

Rate would be nice =p ? lol


AND

Spoiler:

Jumpluff @Leftovers
188 Def / 68 Sp.Def / 252 Speed
Jolly Nature
- Encore
- Substitute
- Sleep Powder
- Leech Seed

Cheap lead is cheap, sleep move + sub seeding and encore kills most thing, its kinda sad how easy it is =p . Encore gifts free switch ins for Luke and Tops too and destroys <insert stat up poke here>

Lucario@Life Orb
252 SP.ATT / 252 SPEED /6 DEF
Modest
Trait : Inner Focus
- Aura Sphere
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power Ice
- Agility / Vacuum Wave

This is currently Agililuke, but in theory

 848 	Weavile 	Jolly 	Focus Sash 	Night Slash 	Ice Punch 	Aerial Ace 	Brick Break 	Atk/Speed

May cause issues, so i might switch to Vacuum wave. But anyways this Agilities and then proceeds to wreck stuff.

Kabutops@Mystic Water
20 HP / 252 ATT / 236 SPEED
Adamant Nature
Trait : Swift Swim
- Swords Dance
- Stone Edge
- Aqua Jet
- Waterfall

I love this. Once again benefitting from the free turns jumpluff grants and it sets up on bulky waters to. Aqua Jets is for priority and after a SD with Mystic Water's 20% boost...it hurts. Also against most Rain Dance BT teams, this goes lolololol =3.

New team which has gotten me to ~70, so you may aswell rate that whilst you're all at it too lol.

 

[BeachBoy]

First team;

Overkill on Typhosion's speed, you only need 142 speed with a Choice Scarf to outspeed everything. SO pump those EVs into HP. Secondly, it seems Quick Claw users are annoying for it. QC Gliscor and Rhydon won't be fun, bar Cune can handle um. Quick Claw Stat ups in general might be problematic, but I think if you hit hard and fast before they set up you can get it.

Garchomp wants Lum Berry, Substitute, (> Fire Fang), and Outrage. As I told you, being locked really doesn't matter. Garchomp can sweep entire teams at +2, and lum helps Outrage live longer. If it doesn't OHKO it'll 2HKO. Substitute also offers help in terms of Focus Sash, Quick Claw, and Brightpowder. Hell, Outrage 2HKO's Battle Tower Bronzong. And you don't have to worry about Skarm thanks to Ty. You don't need the Life Orb power really, and sub will offer plenty of oppurtunity against stat low(ers?).

Second ;

Much more solid. But relying on that sleep, with chance of a miss, you'll have a lot of battles were you may struggle due to that. But it's solid for the most part, but Encore is more of a staple, so I wouldn't change it. And eh, I'd keep agility. Although yeah, Weavile 4 would be problematic. :/ Maybe you could make Luke a CMSub Variant? With a Salac boost it'll outspeed everything, but eh, that won't completely remedy the Weavile problem.

 

[SkyPioneer]

Well, I might as well post my team, just for the sake of it.
LandMaster (Drapion) @ Black Sludge
Bold, Battle Armour
252 Defence 252 Sp Defence and 4 to HP.
Night Slash
Whirlwind
Toxic Spikes
Rest (I am considering replacing this with Earthquake).

This, is my lead. It's fairly fast and T. Spikes really cripple some of the stronger teams.
Night Slash over Crunch because I'd rather lack a base 10 power than have a good crit chance.
This is also my insurance for that annoying Dusclops toxi-staller(you know the one- with double team, toxic, protect and confuse ray, holding leftovers)

Hellraiser (Ursaring) @ Toxic Orb
Jolly, Quick Feet
252 Speed and 252 attack. I lost track where the other four evs went. Oh well.
Facade
Rest
Sleep Talk
Close Combat (am considering replacing this)

Now Garchomp is something but Ursaring is quite another. I love Ursaring. I was considering getting a Guts adamant one, and conjuring a Trick Room team for sweeping support but that would make it too hard to switch in (it would need a really bulky subpass which would take up my final slot).

Last Slot: Blank!
I usually use one of my random trusty pokemanz for this slot (you know, the ones you use to beat the single player part of the game) and is open for suggestions.

This team works quite well alot of the time. Not much for competitive battling, but still, I love my Drap and 'Ring.

 

[ABYAY]

Ancient team here, but hey, it let me hit a solid 100 on the single battle tower.

Salamence@Choice Specs
Modest
252sp.atk/252spd/6HP

Draco Meteor
Dragon Pulse
Flamethrower
Hydro Pump

Standard SpecsMence. Starts off the match against slower foes, Draco Meteors for a OHKO 95% of the time...if it hits. Usually after this assault, they'll bring in something with a Rock attack (I've seen it more often than an Ice attack actually)

Swampert@Leftovers
Relaxed
240HP/216def/52sp.atk

Earthquake
Hydro Pump
Ice Beam
Roar

Roar in the battle tower isn't a great idea. I'll tell you that now, BUT...at least it helped me against a Double Team Blissey and other Double Teamers several times.

Lucario@Focus Sash
Adamant
252atk/252speed/6HP

Swords Dance
Close Combat
E.Speed
Crunch

Again, extremely standard. Focus Sash because I could guarantee an SD since Stealth Rock is so dang rare. (Most SR/Spikes leads are decimated by Sala anyway.) At some points, I could get 2 SDs easily using advantage over the cpu's common situations (CM when unable to nearly OHKO, etc.), anyway, very fun to use and destroy teams with, and setting up was pretty easy.)

So yeah, that's all I have to say. Major hax screwed me over in one part, thus messing up my streak. I haven't tried since then, so yeah.

Note: This is a D/P team. I do not have Platinum.

Other Note: Sky, Facade doesn't activate in sleep; only on Burn/Poison/Paralysis.

 

[.]

My friend asked me to post his team, since he doesn't want to register and post. I don't know anything about the Battle Tower, so whatever criticism you have, be blunt and fierce. I'll deliver it to my friend =D

Gyarados @ Wacan Berry
Adamant
72 HP/252 Att/184 Spe
Dragon Dance
Waterfall
Earthquake
Ice Fang

I'm assuming this is a lead because of Intimidate? It's a non-LOer since he claims that living Tbolts is more important, so whatever. He says it's the team's MVP. Heh, go figure.

Medicham @ Leftovers
Adamant
252 Att/252 Spe/6 HP
Substitute
Focus Punch
Ice Punch
ThunderPunch

I tried to get him to use Breloom, but he insists his Medicham is better than any Shroomish he bred. I asked him if he considered CB Medicham, and he said no since Medicham's defenses suck (so does a lack of offensive item).

Vaporeon @ Choice Specs
Modest
252 HP/252 SpA/6 Def
Surf
Ice Beam
HP Electric
Wish

Defense against things or some crap. I don't know.

 

[Andinator]

does this have to be DPPt team cause i dont have that but i could display my PBR team

 

[BeachBoy]

does this have to be DPPt team cause i dont have that but i could display my PBR team

This isn't for PBR, sorry. This is simply a place to post, show off, or ask for help with D/P or Pt Battle Tower teams.

 

[moments.]

Ooh I have a question about the Battle Tower.
After reading these records and peoples teams and especially BeachBoy's battle log on the Battle Tower, I realised there is quite a bit of brains behind the Tower and the battles.
I am not an expert at this, but with a team of In-game Pokemon (Not EV trained, no chosen natures, no choice items) I was able to rack up like nearly 60 wins. I know that isn't a lot, but without any strategy and or real power in a team I was able to survive quite well.
Is it really that important to take the Battle Tower to such depths by creating a team of specially trained Pokemon simply for this?

 

[BeachBoy]

Ooh I have a question about the Battle Tower.
After reading these records and peoples teams and especially BeachBoy's battle log on the Battle Tower, I realised there is quite a bit of brains behind the Tower and the battles.
I am not an expert at this, but with a team of In-game Pokemon (Not EV trained, no chosen natures, no choice items) I was able to rack up like nearly 60 wins. I know that isn't a lot, but without any strategy and or real power in a team I was able to survive quite well.
Is it really that important to take the Battle Tower to such depths by creating a team of specially trained Pokemon simply for this?

You've GOT to in order to make much longer streaks. BT doesn't equal competitive play. But correct natures, IVs, and such are necessary. Yes, it does take a lot "simply for this." I mean, I made it to 164, with basically perfection. Cookie cutter Pocket Monsters / strategy can only get you but so far. But to exceed, you need to hit some of the key strategies in the BT. Some very effective ones are...

• Toxic Stalling
• Trick/cripple lead - sweep
• Yawn/cripple lead - sweep

Sure, you may have gotten to 60, I got to 61 without the proper stuff, but it gets harder. So overall, yes, it's important, and molding Pocket Monsters around the Battle Tower is also important. Because, unlike competitive play, you can exploit weaknesses like rarely if ever switching, or being relatively predictable. So you can't mirror Pocket Monsters in competitive play 'n' expect to be very successful in the BT. Not to mention... the Battle Tower has the cheapest ways to make sure you fall. BT can use OHKO, Quick Claw, all kinds of stuff competitive play wouldn't think of (or banned).

 

[Archer]

I'll post my Team, I guess. I had to start over, as the game froze up on me :( I was at school, drumming on the edge of the DS and it froze. Not happy. :|

Spoiler:

Anyway, I actually had a cheap idea that could work with the Battle Tower. Lead with Abomasnow to get Hail out. Give it support options or just All-out offence, it really doesn't matter. Bring in the following:

Walrein @ Leftovers
Bold | Ice Body
[ 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 SDef ]
~ Rest
~ Sleep Talk
~ Fissure
~ Sheer Cold

Restoring 1/8 HP per turn without Rest, you can sit in for a few turns throwing OHKO moves at pokemon. Given the Battle Tower's likelihood of Hax, you should nab a few kills. This could be run alongside an Articuno with Mind Reader and Sheer Cold. Nice.

Anyway, here's my real BT Team, which has yet to make it to a decent number without FREEZING!

Sleep and Sweep

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Summary​

After talking with Beachy about his Battle Tower experiences, I've decided to have another go at the Battle Tower. Well, I want a reliable team, so it can take a hit or two and not be haxed to death by a single critical hit. At the same time, it can't be stall-ish enough to let the opponent set up 6 Double Teams. Here goes...

Overview

In-Detail

Captain Slow
Slowbro @ Lum Berry
Ability: Own Tempo
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 4 SAtk
Slack Off
Yawn
Surf
Ice Beam

Slowbro is the newest addition to the team. It can Yawn opponents to shut them down. This not only stops them setting up, but lets me get in the other members for a sweep. The bulk and typing allows for me to deal with threats such as the Floatzel.

GameShark
Garchomp @ Persim Berry
Ability: Sand Veil
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
EVs: 4 HP, 252 Atk, 252 Spd
Swords Dance
Substitute
Outrage
Earthquake

Bread and butter sweeper of the Battle Tower. Insanely over-powerful, so it's only fair to abuse it's availability. :D This set is great for the battle tower, it avoids status and can scout attacks. Lum Berry removes the Confusion from Outrage.

Guns
Magmortar @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Flame Body
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
EVs: 4HP, 252 SAtk, 252 Spd
Overheat
Thunderbolt
Focus Blast
HP Ice

Magmortar is used instead of Heatran for two main reasons. Firstly, it's faster. This means I can outrun Neutral Nature Gyarados, Heatran and Dragonite, etc. And still have a +SAtk Nature, giving a chunk more SAtk than Timid Heatran. Also, the in-game AI is likely to switch in a Water-type on me, meaning I can kill most of them with prediction and Thunderbolt. :D I am tossing up whether to run Scarf or Life Orb and Modest or Timid. Fire Blast and Lava Plume provide Burn support, but Flamethrower and HP Ice provide better coverage (and accuracy.)

So that's it. I'm open to suggestions, but not keen to make huge changes regarding Garchomp and Magmortar. Rate!

Note: I quoted this from my forum, so it may not be in perfect context.
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[BeachBoy]

First off, Lum Berry on Slowbro is great, and to avoid status on the lead is, yeah, great... but I think you might be safe(r) with Focus Sash. Ensuring Yawn gets off against crits from, say Weavile, or Yawning against an OHKOer. It saved my Uxie in some key situations where I needed the Yawn, so you might find it useful. Regardless if Slowbro is bulky, hax shuns anything. Freeing that Lum also allows Chomp to have fun with that healthy berry. :J But if you don't want to do that, or rather find it unnecessary, Persim Berry for Chomp, you should have sub for Ice-type attacks.

You can switch to Guns if they threaten Slowbro's weakened health with it. (Remember, the AI will hit you with a resist if you're pretty low on health) And with Slowbro, note to Yawn ASAP with stat uppers like DTers. Sadly not doing that fact handed me a loss, so keep that in mind. And to repeat what I've already told you, don't be risky with Bro. You may need a later sacrifice of him to refresh Mag's Choice Item. Focus Blast is risky, so you've got your share of chance in the team.

I think it's a solid team, I think the best advice would be to not throw caution to wind. "GOGOGOGO FOR +4 CHOMP 8D" or stuff like that. Because you're better off keeping the sub and not letting hax snag that tiny window to defeat you.

PS. DS drumroll weak. *shot*

 

[Angelic Diablo]

Eh, my Battle Tower team wasn't really great, but it was quite fun to use. Did get me to 112 wins before I got haxed out.

Hippowdon@Leftovers
Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Atk
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Roar
- Slack Off

Used for two reasons, one for a Stealth Rocker, and two to set up the Sand.

Garchomp@Brightpowder
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
- Substitute
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw

I didn't see the need to go with Outrage with Dragon Claw from +4 is quite capable of destroying things.

Lucario@Choice Specs
Modest Nature
EVs: 252 Spd, 252 Sp Atk, 6 HP
- Vacuum Wave
- Hidden Power Ice
- Dark Pulse
- Focus Blast

This guy just took care of the things that threatened Garchomp, mainly Weavile etc.

 

[dark_seeker]

finally thank you beach boy for taking the inititive to do this at the pokecommunity
um..105 wins:single battle
gengar@focus sash
timid
252speed/252sp.att/6hp
destiny bond
energy ball
shadow ball
t-bolt

standard stuff..kill or take down along with you

garchomp@choice band
jolly
252speed/252attack/6hp
outrage(super important)
EQ
fire fang
crunch

revenge kill..this is what a true beast is!

cressilia@leftovers
naiive(should be bold/calm)cant help
252hp/158sp.def/100def
toxic
mooonlight
ice beam
psychic

toxic/stall very basic and simple to execute
i lost because i changed my team.yes i get sick easily of using the same pokes

give me a week and ill display a pretty high double battle record..streak just started
lets just say mixape=total rape : )

 

[Milke]

Ok... here's my team. It got me to battle 68, and only died because of OHKO moves and flinching.

Garchomp@Choice Band
252 atk, 252 spd
Jolly nature
~Outrage
~EQ
~Fire Fang
~Aerial Ace

This guy is BEAST. He can sometimes OHKO the whole team with a lucky outrage.

T-Tar@Focus Sash
252 atk, 252 spd
Adamant Nature
~EQ
~Crunch
~DD
~Stone Edge

I might want to remove DD. I never get a chance to set it up. Focus Sash is a VERY good idea, IMHO. It allows you to revenge kill Lucario's focus blast, close combats from lots of annoying dudes, and even mach punches.

Milotic@Lefties
252 spd, 150 sp atk, 100 def
Bold Nature
~Surf
~Ice Beam
~Mirror Coat
~Recover

I only bring this out if I have to. It's usually my last resort, and sandstorm hurts it, so I try not to bring it our unless I'm faced with and Infernape or something.

I got this team off a Battle Tower guide, so it probably needs some work. It allegedly got 112+ wins for another dude.

EDIT: Silly me, forgot the evs. =P Can anyone give this a rate?

 

[dark_seeker]

Garchomp@Choice Band
252 atk, 252 spd
Jolly nature
~Outrage
~EQ
~Fire Fang
~Aerial Ace

This guy is BEAST. He can sometimes OHKO the whole team with a lucky outrage.

T-Tar@Focus Sash
252 atk, 252 spd
Adamant Nature
~EQ
~Crunch
~DD
~Stone Edge

I might want to remove DD. I never get a chance to set it up. Focus Sash is a VERY good idea, IMHO. It allows you to revenge kill Lucario's focus blast, close combats from lots of annoying dudes, and even mach punches.

Milotic@Lefties
252 spd, 150 sp atk, 100 def
Bold Nature
~Surf
~Ice Beam
~Mirror Coat
~Recover

I only bring this out if I have to. It's usually my last resort, and sandstorm hurts it, so I try not to bring it our unless I'm faced with and Infernape or something.

I got this team off a Battle Tower guide, so it probably needs some work. It allegedly got 112+ wins for another dude.

yeah i read the guide..the eves were alot different heres the real team...i suggest you change yours to this
credit goes to tristan_cow

Garchomp @ Choice Band
Jolly; 252 Atk, 252 Spd; 6 HP
Sand Veil
~ Outrage
~ Earthquake
~ Fire Fang/Aerial Ace/Crunch
~ Fire Fang/Aerial Ace/Crunch

Outrage for major STAB. Not much will survive this that doesn't resist a STABed
Outrage from Garchomp. Earthquake, again for major STAB. The other two are
basically fillers for more of a variety of types. Start off with outrage,
switch when confused and then switch back to garchomp when your other pokemon
faints. Rinse, slather, repeat.

Tyranitar @ Focus Sash
Adamant; 252 Atk, 160 Spd, 92 Def, 6 HP
Sandstorm
~ Dragon Dance
~ Crunch
~ Stone Edge/Rock Slide
~ Earthquake

I personally like stone edge but, it's your choice. Sand Stream works well with
Garchomp (increases evasion) and focus sash is for those fighting types. After
you are saved by focus sash against a Lucario, dragon dance then you should be
able to outspeed it to get another attack in.

Milotic @ Leftovers
Bold; 252 SpD, 160 SpA, 96 Def
Marvel Scale
~ Surf
~ Ice Beam
~ Recover
~ Mirror Coat

This baby has saved me a bunch of times. It has outlasted many opponents.
Leftovers neutralizes Tyranitar's sand stream.

Reached 112 battles.

 

[genesis42]

D= Recommend me some sets please guys?

If you guys think this team will be somewhat decent to use, I'll decide to breed it so I can hopefully get a 100+ streak, (cookie cutter styles lol).

! ! THE TEAM ! !

I seriously have no idea what set to go for in the BT with T.Tar, here are my options:
~ Choice Band Tyranitar (Nice for hitting and running)
~ Dragon Dancing Tyranitar (Can possibly pull off a early game sweep)
~ TyraniBoah (Can hide behind Subs to prevent OHKOs/Status)
~ Curse Tyranitar (Eh.. seems like a gimmick, to much set up IMO)

What this guy plans to do: Mainly just sets up SS for Chomp and kill whatever

Garchomp @ Yache Berry/Life Orb
Sand Veil
Jolly - 4 Hp, 252 Atk, 252 Spd
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~ Swords Dance
~ Outrage
~ Earthquake
~ Fire Fang

What this guy plans to do: Sweep in general. Is Yache Berry even all that useful in the BT? Is it safe for me to opt for more power (Life Orb)?

Bronzong @ Leftovers/Lum Berry
Levitate
Bold - 244 Hp, 252 Def, 12 Sp. Atk
~ Calm Mind
~ Flash Cannon
~ Psychic
~ Rest/Grass Knot

What this guy plans to do: Will this thing even work? I'm using it mainly to keep Weavile in check, might also be able to potentially sweep from the Special spectrum =p

 

[SkyPioneer]

Personal opinions: I'd avoid Tyranaboah. That's just me. I'm more of an all out attacking guy. I'd probably have a scizor agilipass to him or something while he holds a Choice Scarf or a Life Orb.

No problems with the 'Chomp. Good set, high sweep potential.

I don't think you need to use a whole slot just for weavile. You are up against stupid AI following smart patterns, not dynamic and predicting and planning human opponents.
The likely-hood of Weavile showing up in another team is very low. Not to menion, 'Zong is used for walling and not attacking because it does a better job with the former and doesn't necessarily have the stats to perform the latter efficiently. So reconsider 'Zong altogether.

Pardon for the lack of sets.

 

[Archer]

Updated some small changes on My Team.
I've changed Fire Blast to Overheat on Magmortar for the better accuracy and power. I usually have to switch out afterwards, anyway.

I am giving Garchomp Persim (Confusion) Berry until I sort out what I am doing with Slowbro, as it seems more useful now to have status immunity, when most OHKO move users don't have Quick Claw. I may yet replace it with a Yawn/Wish/Faint Attack/Toxic Umbreon. Suggestions?

Regarding QC OHKOers, I basically Yawn on Captain Slow, hoping I live. If it faints, I switch to Guns and try my luck with it. Then I send in GameShark and Sub until I get lucky. Then Outrage it. It's risky, but has worked.

Is anyone sure on the numbers for the increased efficiency of Hax Moves/Items? I'm really curious.

Seeing as you want some records up there, I can post my pathetic records for Doubles, Doubles Link and Wifi, Yeah? They're all 21 for now. I may get around to increasing them and I'll post my Singles Record when I'm happy with it. :D

So should I replace Fire Blast with Overheat on Magmortar?

 

[genesis42]

Personal opinions: I'd avoid Tyranaboah. That's just me. I'm more of an all out attacking guy.

Yeah I was actually thinking of going with the DD set, or perhaps the CB set.. I don't have access to Plat, so having no Aqua Tail on the CB set would be a real bummer =/

I'd probably have a scizor agilipass to him or something while he holds a Choice Scarf or a Life Orb.

Hmm.. Scizor wouldn't be bad at all but once again, the lack of Plat really hurts as I can't get Bullet Punch =(

No problems with the 'Chomp. Good set, high sweep potential.

Sweet as.

I don't think you need to use a whole slot just for weavile. You are up against stupid AI following smart patterns, not dynamic and predicting and planning human opponents.
The likely-hood of Weavile showing up in another team is very low. Not to menion, 'Zong is used for walling and not attacking because it does a better job with the former and doesn't necessarily have the stats to perform the latter efficiently. So reconsider 'Zong altogether.

I guess I can always take out Weavile with priority and a great canditate that jumps straight into my head is Luke (Special variant w/ Vacuum Wave), would this be a good idea?