Question: Clan Threads?

[Denzer]

Why are all Clan threads locked?

 

[Ayano Katagiri]

Take a look at this and it'll will tell you why.

 

[richdevildog559]

thats kinda R'tard. then y not just make a section for just clans. wouldnt it be easier? just speaking my opinion.

 

[BeachBoy]

thats kinda R'tard. then y not just make a section for just clans. wouldnt it be easier? just speaking my opinion.

Um, no, it's rather simple and smart in fact. :x Thinking from your suggestion, all these clans that were so problematic would be moved and then they would suddenly stop all their problems? The fact is, no, nothing would change. =/

Clans are magnets for spam, unnecessary chat, and flamebait.

^ That.

Remember, the moderators have to clean the aftermath of all the constant flames, spam, etc. And simply because it became too much of a problem, along with various other reasons mentioned in the announcement, it was removed completely.

 

[Alakazam17]

I understand the reasons for this, and I understand. I'd be a little more frustrated in a few weeks though, as that's when I was planning to create a Clan of my own. ;_;

Just a suggestion, but what about having one big battling clan on PC, rather than many small ones? Then we could have a clan war against Serebii

 

[richdevildog559]

well idk, just a last thought before i drop the subject and move on.... isnt the point of a clan is too have discussions about their teams, recent battles, strategies, etc.?

like test battles, oh course someone in a clan is going to want to test their team, but with someone who can actually help them get better and suggest new ideas to help them grow stronger.(not someone who brutally 6-0 'ed his opponent and gives him words of discouragement). test battles has actually help'd my team improve cause i got different points of view on how to use my team. so its not really "spam" its helping another person in need.

Flaming....well its always going to be around...nothing can change that. as for wars failing, thats just unorganized events that we have to make time for, so for them sometimes failing, is just coincidence. usually due to different time zones.

this is not a plea to unlock the threads but u guys r also at fault for not setting any rules or guidelines for creating clan threads. (from what i know of, i could be wrong). but in all, a section for clans would be a good idea, but u guys think otherwise on the subject. thanks for hearing my opinion and not getting mad about it.

EDIT: i forgot to add, i am aware that u guys didnt want clans from the start but u still allowed them. thanks for allowing them cause i have more online friends.

EDIT2: Loop Hole Found for clans.......

 

[BeachBoy]

well idk, just a last thought before i drop the subject and move on.... isnt the point of a clan is too have discussions about their teams, recent battles, strategies, etc.?

like test battles, oh course someone in a clan is going to want to test their team, but with someone who can actually help them get better and suggest new ideas to help them grow stronger.(not someone who brutally 6-0 'ed his opponent and gives him words of discouragement). test battles has actually help'd my team improve cause i got different points of view on how to use my team. so its not really "spam" its helping another person in need.

Flaming....well its always going to be around...nothing can change that. as for wars failing, thats just unorganized events that we have to make time for, so for them sometimes failing, is just coincidence. usually due to different time zones.

this is not a plea to unlock the threads but u guys r also at fault for not setting any rules or guidelines for creating clan threads. (from what i know of, i could be wrong). but in all, a section for clans would be a good idea, but u guys think otherwise on the subject. thanks for hearing my opinion and not getting mad about it.

EDIT: i forgot to add, i am aware that u guys didnt want clans from the start but u still allowed them. thanks for allowing them cause i have more online friends.

Well, we also have an entire forum for strategies, that's what the strategies and movesets forum is all about after all. @_@; Also, you can EASILY contact a skilled battler and maybe if you're determined and willing enough, he/she could take you under their wing. Just because clans are gone doesn't mean you can't talk to someone via private or visitor message. I'd suggest making more Rate My Teams in S&M, because that would by far be one of the most helpful areas for you.

Along with help due to "test battles," you create a battle thread just for you, and what I suggest is that you make a small note in your battle thread that you wish for them to point out your strengths and weaknesses. Note in your battle thread that you wish to improve and that you would greatly appreciate helpful advise on your skills afterwords sent to you by... say, private message. It's easy. =D

Flaming, well, of course, but we can greatly reduce such with the extinction of clans. And it's kinda pointless now to say it's the staff's fault that rules and guidelines weren't set because clans should have never started in the first place, simple as that.

Basically, a new section just for clans wouldn't work out. ): Simply due to it's overwhelming problems, along with the other issues, etc.

And it's great that you've made friends this way, but remember, there are plenty of alternate routes you can take while getting the same results. You just gotta think about it bud. ;D

Have a nice day.

Just a suggestion, but what about having one big battling clan on PC, rather than many small ones?

Well, I can just imagine cramming all of the messy clans we have now all into one package... So... XD

 

[luke]

I never wanted clans. I've never liked them and I never will. They were leftover from the people who were moderator of D/P before me. In fact, my predecessors disobeyed a ruling from the administration in allowing clans in the first place. So clans shouldn't have existed at all.

Why do you need a clan to test out your team when you can have your own thread focused on you. There, you can get individualized attention instead of fighting for it with other "clan matters." Also, you can always try posting in the Strategies and Movesets Forum for advice as well.

I know there will always be flaming, but clans seem to attract it more than other types of threads. So, I'm eliminating a source in hopes of bringing the levels of flame wars going on.

Also, clans cluttered the forums. So if people wanted to create their own individual thread, it often got ignored because people were focusing on the clans rather than people's desire for a few battles. They would often have to resort to the Battle Me Now thread, where they could still be ignored. Here, they have a greater chance of finding a battle instead of having to join a clan to get one.

Thanks for presenting your points in a clear manner. I appreciate your matureness.

Edit: Stupid BeachBoy. >:o goawaypl0x Just kidding. Listen to what he said as well (which is basically the same as me)

 

[Alakazam17]

Just to clarify, do leagues(as in, gym leaders, etc.) count as clans? I didn't notice any locked, mostly because not many are active at the moment.

EDIT: never mind I found one locked. Though as I mentioned with the clans, one big official league should be considered. I remember it was attempted in the past but never went anywhere....but now that Clans are banned, it may be the time to have another go at it.

 

[luke]

No I locked that one earlier. Gym Leagues are still allowed as long as you get permission.

 

[Alakazam17]

Oh, some good news then! :D

In that case I'll still work on something in a few weeks, then. And yes, I'll PM you before I post anything. Expect that near the end of the month, Apostle. :D

 

[Heart's Soul]

Thank you for baning clans, they had more spam in each thread than in ShinyGold's 8,000 posts.

 

[AJ™]

[Edit] The first post sounded stupid, so i edited it.

Why does it matter if there is a little bit of spam or flaming

The description of the battle section is...

Posts in this forum do not add to your total post count. Four-word rule and character-limit do not apply here.

I understand that there is a bunch of off-topic chat, but it is still a good way to find battles.
And posts don't even count, so it's not as if they're doing it for posts.

It was a good experience for members to become friends with others on the forum.

 

[BeachBoy]

Why does it matter if they have spam

Just because it doesn't count does not solve anything... flames & arguments, unnecessary chat, etc. The mods still have to deal with it.

Posts in this forum do not add to your total post count. Four-word rule and character-limit do not apply here.

That does not mean Stupid. Pointless. Annoying. Messages. are allowed. And there are still countless ways to make friends on this forum. That statement doesn't render any backbone because no count doesn't mean FREE SPAM. =/ Not trying to sound rough, just saying.

edit: Oiii, edited your post. ._.;

Still stands, a single thread that focuses on you is an excellent way to find battles, and there are so many alternate options to getting battles around here. A chat room purely for battles is back too, so there's another option for friends and battles.

 

[AJ™]

Yeah, sorry about all the editing. I realized the first revision sounded stupid xD.

I totally understand the decision, but I think they could've been better controlled, instead of banned altogether.

Also, I think that EVERYONE having a battle thread would cause more spam than clans would.

 

[luke]

I totally understand the decision, but I think they could've been better controlled, instead of banned altogether.

For the last several months, I have attempted to control them rather than just closing them. However, they've grown to the point where controlling them wasn't an option.

Also, I think that EVERYONE having a battle thread would cause more spam than clans would.

No, because it will just consist of people trading friend codes and commenting on the battles they're having at that moment. There will be no discussing strategy, who wants to be tested, etc. like there were in clans. Of course, if SPAM does occur, then it will be promptly taken care of by DeanoDance, ClassicRockFan, or a member of the Upper Staff.

 

[AJ™]

Ahh.
I was unaware that there has been problems for this long.
And I also understand about the smaller threads now.

Thank you for clarifying :D

 

[Mike Ukiuki]

Yes I uderstand, I am a little mad but Apostle is right, clan's had alot of spam. Even though this stinks it should help alot.

 

[Stronkadonk]

Yes I uderstand, I am a little mad but Apostle is right, clan's had alot of spam. Even though this stinks it should help alot.

I don't. We were all talking and helping each other out and all that. So then SOMEONE (no idea who) banned my friend for probably talking his mind, which always happens to him because of this crap. Now if he did something other than talk his mind, then maybe he got booted for a reason. But I think that the clans should have been kept alive, since it was only spam in the clan, not like here. I think we should ALL have a vote on whether they stay or not.

 

[BeachBoy]

Mike, good to see that you understand. =D SR...

I don't. We were all talking and helping each other out and all that. So then SOMEONE (no idea who) banned my friend for probably talking his mind, which always happens to him because of this crap. Now if he did something other than talk his mind, then maybe he got booted for a reason. But I think that the clans should have been kept alive, since it was only spam in the clan, not like here. I think we should ALL have a vote on whether they stay or not.

First off, on the case of bans, staff don't ban members for no reason. And the discussion of other member bans are only left to the staff and that particular member, so you can drop that here and now. Secondly, I don't see how you can't understand with all the numerous reasons that've been provided. A vote would be pointless, honestly. Why? Because keeping clans would only continue the complete mess they've caused for all this time. The clans and member depreciation of the sub-forum resulted in its overall end. Period. They're going back to the original purpose of the sub-forum, individual battle threads, etc.

As Apostle previously stated... clans were never in the plan with administration, were created, and lasted pretty long, but with all the problems that have been happening over the past several months, it was time to cut the cord. By simply reading any of the previous statements in this thread, and the announcement should make things clear to understand. So, clans were banned for multiple reasons, and there are countless alternate ways to battle, make friends, and most importantly... have fun. =D