6th Gen Corocoro (release for July) and E3 Speculation and Discussion thread

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Hugh and N were alright, but I think Barry truly embodies the perfect rival. Cocky enough that you want to beat him at everything he does, but nice enough that he can be your friend and supporter in times of danger. Of course, that's not to say other rivals haven't achieved those traits to some degree, but Barry's personality is perfect. Of course, this all relates to the story line of the games, and if Wally becomes more of a prominent rival in these games, he could have less of an arrogant, overly confident feel, but more of a mysterious, unknowingly sinister persona. I'd like to see that d:
 
Jakku said:
Woah, what happened to Archie? He's barely recognisable. Steven on the other hand looks like he's rocking that Wolverine factor. Hasn't seem to age a day in 10+ years.
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Archie looks like a mega evolved Somali Pirate, which is absolutely badass. Steven looks like welll...Steven, but he's rocking those rings.
 
Jakku said:
Agreed, I much prefer the new look. It's just that he barely resembles his old self, ya know?
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In a sense, he does. I mean, the point to redesigning these characters is to give off a new feel, so if they focused to much on keeping him similar to his original concept, it wouldn't work as well in the remakes. I like that they changed a lot about both evil teams, and they're going to look fantastic in 3D. Not that I didn't enjoy Shelly's hairstyle before, but the new do looks very nice. :]
 
"HoneyClaws" said:
Were coming to that age where rivals arent even challenging anymore, everyone just wants to be your friends and skip down the yellow brick road. What happened to the badasses I was used to? The rivals that actually wanted to surpass you and humiliate you through it? That ended at Gen 2.
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They should really do something like the easy and hard mode for BW2, except without requiring to have an IR connection with another DS that finished the game..

"HoneyClaws" said:
If you mean in game, yes their blank stares looked really strange especially with only one facial expression.
the problem for me seems to be the lack of pokecentric art we're getting. The clothing just looks like generic clothing to fit anime memes instead of keeping consistency with the in-universe.
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Well, the long and thin limbs also looks strange!

"HoneyClaws" said:
I really wish they would evolve some regular pokemon first and not just Mega-glue everything. Like Sableye. First stage pokemon should never get a mega. I'd rather a longer chain; and Mightyena needs a Third Stage before a Mega. Its really weak.
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Definitely, regular evos should also be handed around. And yeah, given what happened with some pokemons, mega-evo is not always the answer.

That's why I said fix Mightyena, not mega-evolve. I seriously doubt a mega-evo would be all that useful right now on it. Its stats and etc are awfully close to being viable in general. But a lot of oversight from the devs made it fall short.

Intimidate worked wonders in single player in gen3. And it added up to its typing nicely given all ghost moves being physical at the time, and dark being super effective against them. But now that's not gonna work in ORAS..

And you'd be surprised, in general / multiplayer, in gen 6, its not as weak as people may think when it has moxie.
But it comes short as a physical sweeper.. Meaning that, you won't one shot most things until you're at +2 / +3 moxie boosts, even when super effective sometimes.(all its moves have under 90 base power, and the most powerful don't have STAB)
But +3 and up one shot most commonly seen offensive pokemons. The main issue is getting there, and lack of versatility, given right now there is basically one set viable for mightyena, and sucker punch is unreliable, and cant protect against burns crippling and etc..

In essence, the tools to make it work exist already, but the devs haven't lightened up, and just come up with the weirdest ideas ever. Like, it can't learn pursuit, but poochyena's entry go on and on about it chasing its pray to exhaustion.. Go figure..
And it doesn't lie in slapping the most OP ability you can think of, its just a question of moves and adding a little into its stats. Azumarill got +10 into its sp attack in X/Y, I really don't see why that was justified, and given they took such liberty, its kinda odd they didn't add up a little into other pokemon's stats..

But if they'd give us a mega and nothing else, its still better than nothing in the end..

DJTiKi said:
I would probably have to disagree that somewhat challenging rivals ended at Gen 2, call me a "Genfiver" or whatever, but Hugh and N were not that bad. Considering N caught a legendary and the only rival to battle you with all 17 types at the time, and Hugh, while little developed, wasn't all that bad. But i will agree that rivals were best in its early stages, and that XYs rivals, or should I say tag-alongs, were boring, annoying, and easy as hell.
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I liked Hugh, I actually gave him a very unflattering name, but, as the game progressed I kinda felt bad about it, because he wasn't such a dick after all..

Call me crazy, but I actually liked Cheren and Bianca as well !

I disliked all the "friends" in gen 6 though. And I kinda don't like Wally at all. Well, actually that's not true. The Adventure comics gave him such a fantastic role and made him interesting !
But in the game, I find him kinda arrogant at times.. And overall fighting him is a little more than a HM puzzle's worth in terms of fun or interest..

Jakku said:
Yes...And there a vague emulation of his old moustache there as well or am I imaging it?
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He always had a full beard ! Beards are where its at ! :P
 
Antemortem said:
you can't honestly think May could be confused as an entirely new character ahah
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If they change any more of her, then maybe - they might as well just change her hair too and call her something else. Ask me who that character is in a week and I'd be stumped. My brain doesnt register May from that design.
 
"HoneyClaws" said:
If they change any more of her, then maybe - they might as well just change her hair too and call her something else. Ask me who that character is in a week and I'd be stumped. My brain doesnt register May from that design.
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Seeing as they already released the official artwork for character redesigns, I doubt there will be any more changes to the concepts - what you see is the final look for May, and there's no way one could mistake her ORAS revamp for an entirely new character. Basically the only thing that changed was her bandanna.
 
Pepperton said:
Seeing as they already released the official artwork for character redesigns, I doubt there will be any more changes to the concepts - what you see is the final look for May, and there's no way one could mistake her ORAS revamp for an entirely new character. Basically the only thing that changed was her bandanna.
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Yeah, and she's slightly paler but she's still obviously May. I think Brendan is harder to tell compared to her (he's not that hard either).
 
Pepperton said:
Seeing as they already released the official artwork for character redesigns, I doubt there will be any more changes to the concepts - what you see is the final look for May, and there's no way one could mistake her ORAS revamp for an entirely new character. Basically the only thing that changed was her bandanna.
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I was being facetious on that, I know thats the final artwork obviously. The reduction of her bandana though is a big defining change though, especially for the fact that it isnt even subtle. Though consideing the marketing on the character, shes more recognizable in her default scheme regardless of colour. They didnt change Brendan's had. Why change May's head piece?
 
"HoneyClaws" said:
I was being facetious on that, I know thats the final artwork obviously. The reduction of her bandana though is a big defining change though, especially for the fact that it isnt even subtle. Though consideing the marketing on the character, shes more recognizable in her default scheme regardless of colour. They didnt change Brendan's hat. Why change May's head piece?
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Maybe while Gf were working on the game they liked her look with her new head piece when trying out customization? I hope that we can give her back her old head pieces from RS and E in the game. I also hope we can give Brendan his RS and E style hat (only the color at the bottom has changed).
 
WishCookie said:
I don't even know why people think Groudon and Kyogre will have new forms. Did they confirm it or anything?
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Actually it was confirmed in the Corocoro leaks that Groudon and Kyogre will receive "new formes" that are kinda similar to Mega Evolutions called Ancient Devolution. They are currently dubbed as Primal/Premival/Prehistoric Groudon and Kyogre.
 
Avant Garde said:
Actually it was confirmed in the Corocoro leaks that Groudon and Kyogre will receive "new formes" that are kinda similar to Mega Evolutions called Ancient Devolution. They are currently dubbed as Primal/Premival/Prehistoric Groudon and Kyogre.
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I know, I saw that yesterday but that is a pretty old quote. xD
 
Does anyone think these new Primal Formes will have its own signature move? And besides, im not even sure ubers can handle them if they get a 100+ boost to their base stat total.
 
DJTiKi said:
Does anyone think these new Primal Formes will have its own signature move? And besides, im not even sure ubers can handle them if they get a 100+ boost to their base stat total.
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That's true. Assuming they also get a +100 stat boost then that would take both Kyogre & Groudon upto 770 total, and they're already a heavy threat in meta game.
 
Cat said:
That's true. Assuming they also get a +100 stat boost then that would take both Kygore & Groudon upto 770 total, and they're already a heavy threat in meta game.
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That only makes me think further that they will have to make the other legendaries catch up to them. So i am almost positive that the other legendaries will get a Primal Forme.
 
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