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Suggestion: Delete unused accounts for better system and search in VM conversations

Bloodex said:
The deleting the accounts part is a bad idea, because people might wanna come back, and they might be busy to check there email, and by the time they do, they might be to late. However, as for permabanned accounts... not sure if they get deleted, but if they don't then why don't you?
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I know that can happen because I had, like, 3 posts when I returned here after one year of absence.

Permabanned accounts should be deleted because they only take space and they will never return.
 
Perm banned accounts will always stay on the forum. Because we need a record for the reason they were banned, we need the email on the account, their IPs, info and so on. Yea, they'll never return, but doesn't change the fact that if we delete their account all their posts will be listed as "guest", there would be no way to search their posts or even to say "Well, this "guest" is ... banned member". If by chance we do delete accounts all banned members will stay banned and won't be deleted.
 
Arcanine said:
Perm banned accounts will always stay on the forum. Because we need a record for the reason they were banned, we need the email on the account, their IPs, info and so on. Yea, they'll never return, but doesn't change the fact that if we delete their account all their posts will be listed as "guest", there would be no way to search their posts or even to say "Well, this "guest" is ... banned member". If by chance we do delete accounts all banned members will stay banned and won't be deleted.
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Oh. ;; Oh well. Out of curiosity, do banned accounts being deleted have the same affect as deleting not banned, hardly used accounts, like Ausaudriel said; they take up almost no space?
 
Sorry if I'm repeating anyone at all, but from what I see in my area, I'd say only accounts that haven't been used for three or more years should be deleted. Three at minimum, because two years isn't a long time here considering the forum itself has been around since 2002. & I see members all the time, who signed up a couple of years ago, sometimes even three years, made 5 posts and then left. However, when they come back, they're glad to see that have accounts here.

So if the pruning ever happens.. maybe it should be limited to people with 0 posts, who signed up three years ago or more, and were never really active. Yeah, that's real specific, but it also applies to a good number of accounts. I guess my point is that it might not be ALL the inactive users, but it would be better than nothing. With this server it seems like every little bit helps..
 
Drew said:
Sorry if I'm repeating anyone at all, but from what I see in my area, I'd say only accounts that haven't been used for three or more years should be deleted. Three at minimum, because two years isn't a long time here considering the forum itself has been around since 2002. & I see members all the time, who signed up a couple of years ago, sometimes even three years, made 5 posts and then left. However, when they come back, they're glad to see that have accounts here.

So if the pruning ever happens.. maybe it should be limited to people with 0 posts, who signed up three years ago or more, and were never really active. Yeah, that's real specific, but it also applies to a good number of accounts. I guess my point is that it might not be ALL the inactive users, but it would be better than nothing. With this server it seems like every little bit helps..
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thats agood point I thing we should go wit this dudes plan :D
Although No pruning cause say someone says.
"Im gonna join :D"
Then they end up joining but they break their computer and they wait a while. They forget the site 3 years later...
Oh I remember so they log on it says invalid username.
Theyd be kinda pissed yknow?
 
W4r p4nda said:
thats agood point I thing we should go wit this dudes plan :D
Although No pruning cause say someone says.
"Im gonna join :D"
Then they end up joining but they break their computer and they wait a while. They forget the site 3 years later...
Oh I remember so they log on it says invalid username.
Theyd be kinda pissed yknow?
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It takes five seconds to register. If they were that annoyed, and wanted to come back so urgently, they'd reregister. Anyway, I can't really see the point in pruning old accounts except for the taken-username problem, which could be solved by...coming up with another name? Or adding a period at the beginning? Or something.
 
Bloodex said:
Oh. ;; Oh well. Out of curiosity, do banned accounts being deleted have the same affect as deleting not banned, hardly used accounts, like Ausaudriel said; they take up almost no space?
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The only difference in a banned member with no posts and a normal member with no posts is that they're in a different usergroup. One doesn't take up anymore space then the other.



Personally, I wouldn't mind cleaning off some old accounts. But it's not because it takes up space (Audy has already said it takes up nothing), but to free up some names and to clean things up a little. I know it can be annoying to join, try to pick a name and only find out that name was taken 5 years ago by a person that hasn't logged in since.
And personally, I wouldn't mind starting the pruning going back only a year since they last logged in. If they haven't been on PC in a year, haven't made any posts, then they don't care enough about the forum to get active. And if they do come back then all they have to do is make a new account. They might have lost their old name... well... too bad.
 
If it's purely to clear up nicknames, and it actually does make "holes" like Serene said, you could always change the names of dead accounts to something like EvilMinion#xxxxx, replacing the "x"'s with numbers increasing from 1. Though I don't know if you can do that easily, you guys are the experts, at the end of the day it's all your call.

After posting I remembered the reason you guys didn't like name changes in the first place: server stress. A mass name change would probably create a rift in the space-time continuum. I guess that idea's out the window then.
 
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I like the idea of deleting overly old accounts, but we just don't have enough reason right now. Really, the only reason we have is so that you can sign up with the name you wanted. (which isn't a good enough reason.) I only think it should be done if we get to the point where they actually start to cause strain on the server... aand, doesn't this job seem the least bit tiresome? Can you delete multiple members at once, or would it all be one by one? I would hate to be the one stuck with that job.
 
I'm gonna support this idea, if only to allow some usernames to be freed up.

I'd have to agree, though, we'd have to only allow accounts from like...3 years ago to be pruned...as long as they had less than 15 posts.

As far as the accounts being deleted, the posts themselves shouldn't be deleted, only made to appear as if posted by a guest. If necessary, we could just change the poster to a dummy account for important posts...or let them be reposted.

Still, I feel that if Steve still won't delete a thing...it won't harm anything. The Database itself is fine and it doesn't need any slimming. If anything, the server needs beefing up...and we can't do that unless we gather a LOT of money in donations, or land a ton of cash from ads. x3
 
This would be a good thing, not necessarily to free up space but to free up names. I remember joining a few years a go under a different account (in which I only ever made about 16 or so posts) and the username I wanted to use then was taken up by someone who hadn't logged on for a year and a half and had no posts.

I'd definitely support pruning members, but only if they have 0 posts and haven't been active for 3 months. Now before anyone says "don't do that, some people leave and come back in three months", remember these people have no posts. They aren't losing anything but a username, if they decide to come back all they have to do is register.

EDIT: There are approximately 133230 users who could be deleted with this criteria - people who have zero posts and haven't logged on in three months.
 
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Drew said:
Sorry if I'm repeating anyone at all, but from what I see in my area, I'd say only accounts that haven't been used for three or more years should be deleted. Three at minimum, because two years isn't a long time here considering the forum itself has been around since 2002. & I see members all the time, who signed up a couple of years ago, sometimes even three years, made 5 posts and then left. However, when they come back, they're glad to see that have accounts here.

So if the pruning ever happens.. maybe it should be limited to people with 0 posts, who signed up three years ago or more, and were never really active. Yeah, that's real specific, but it also applies to a good number of accounts. I guess my point is that it might not be ALL the inactive users, but it would be better than nothing. With this server it seems like every little bit helps..
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That's why I suggested originally that 0 posts would be a good bet. Anyone who even posts once shows some interest in being part of the community. Members who have 0 posts and haven't logged on since 2006 or 2007 are likely not to come back at all, and if they do, I'm sure it won't kill them to make another account and use that one seeing as how they had no contributions made to the community apart from joining.
 
Drew said:
Sorry if I'm repeating anyone at all, but from what I see in my area, I'd say only accounts that haven't been used for three or more years should be deleted. Three at minimum, because two years isn't a long time here considering the forum itself has been around since 2002. & I see members all the time, who signed up a couple of years ago, sometimes even three years, made 5 posts and then left. However, when they come back, they're glad to see that have accounts here.

So if the pruning ever happens.. maybe it should be limited to people with 0 posts, who signed up three years ago or more, and were never really active. Yeah, that's real specific, but it also applies to a good number of accounts. I guess my point is that it might not be ALL the inactive users, but it would be better than nothing. With this server it seems like every little bit helps..
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Totally should. I've been searching the memberlist for someone just yesterday, and actually : I was amazed by the amount of people who never posted here, yet they registered.
This is a very good idea to delete members ! It always ligthen the server even if just a little bit. And also, as Pachy said, it's also going to offer usernames to use. This may take time to delete all those who have 0 posts, but I guess we don't need to delete them all at the same time.
And well, users that registered 7 years ago and didn't post anything aren't really members, as they are not participating or supporting the community.
And who knows : maybe some of them made an alt account they decided to keep and forgot about their old account ? And I think that the criteria could be something like : 0 posts and 2 years
Although one year or 10 months already seem enough to me.
 
hey guys.. we currently do delete 0 post and older then x years (x = 1 to 3, depending on how we feel at the time) accounts to clear up some usernames and remove dead weight.. Its not very often and again when we do do it, it is ONLY 0 post accounts (that way wer have no server explosion due to changing to 'guest').

As these processes are somewhat server intensive, we like to do them during lulls in PC's activity, which most of you know, hasn't been lately.
 
@ SinisterEternity - 10 months or a year with 0 posts, maybe. I'd say definitely no less than that amount of time though, or anyone with even 1 post within that time. D:

@ Rukario - So it's already done, to a point? o_o Wow.

Patchisou Yutohru said:
Anyone who even posts once shows some interest in being part of the community.
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Yesss, exactly what I was going for. xD
 
Drew said:
@ Rukario - So it's already done, to a point? o_o Wow.
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You can check the ID of the newest member and the current member count and see that they're different. The member count says we have under 200,000 members. Where the ID number of the newest member is 226570, meaning we've had 226,570 accounts on PC. But some accounts were pruned (I also can't remember if banned members are counted or not on the number on the main page), thus the numbers aren't the same (the ID is higher than the normal count).
 
So since Ausaudriel has already explained to us that it wouldn't help the server, I still think it's a good idea to free up usernames like many people above have said. I think it is a good idea that you have started with those who have 0 posts.

Anyways, anything to say about the VM suggestion? Most people forgot about that one XD
 
I think we should be able to request our accounts deleted. As long as they don't have a few thousand posts, obviously, as that'd screw things up.

For example, I have an alt. account, Flare Riqueza, which I used when I couldn't use this one. It doesn't have that many posts, and I'd be happy to have rid of it. I already deleted the e-mail address it signed up with.
 
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