Does God exist?

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    I have long believed in god but in recent months have begun doubting. I wonder what your opinions were? I feel like we really are alone and any attempts to create anything other than science are misguided and desperate attempts to cling to the naive notion of eternal life.
     
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    Well, personaly. I don't think god is real. But i don't go around saying "Why do peple beleive in it/him?" I think Jesus was real. But the thing's he did wernt..
     
    Mismaguis said:
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    Well, personaly. I don't think god is real. But i don't go around saying "Why do peple beleive in it/him?" I think Jesus was real. But the thing's he did wernt..
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    I was thinking that earlier in RE that Jesus probably existed but didnt have the godly powers he was supposed to have.
     
    Yup,
    I think that God could be real(without him where would we all be?) Well I think Jesus is real, because I believe in the story. And this should also be moved to voting polls

    ~C3LEBI
     
    I absolutely believe in God. How else could you tell me the earth and everything on it got here. Do not say Big Bang or Evolution. Those are scientific THEORIES with almost no evidence to back them up. If anyone has an in-depth explanation, not a theory or guess, please do speak up. Anyway, that's just my opinion. :)
     
    icaica said:
    I absolutely believe in God. How else could you tell me the earth and everything on it got here. Do not say Big Bang or Evolution. Those are scientific THEORIES with almost no evidence to back them up. If anyone has an in-depth explanation, not a theory or guess, please do speak up. Anyway, that's just my opinion. :)
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    I'm not siding with the Scientific theories but there isnt much evidence of Jesus and God?
     
    icaica said:
    Do not say Big Bang or Evolution. Those are scientific THEORIES with almost no evidence to back them up.
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    Sorry, just wanted to clear some things up. "In scientific usage, a theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena, supported by several proof, otherwise it would be called hypothesis".

    So yes, there are a lot of evidences backing them up, other thing is if you believe in science or not :)
     
    icaica said:
    I absolutely believe in God. How else could you tell me the earth and everything on it got here. Do not say Big Bang or Evolution. Those are scientific THEORIES with almost no evidence to back them up. If anyone has an in-depth explanation, not a theory or guess, please do speak up. Anyway, that's just my opinion. :)
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    Theory does not mean 'guess'. You could just as easily say the theory of plate tectonics or the theory of relativity are just theories. The theory of evolution is one of the most proven scientific facts ever. If you were to actually take a biology class, you would know that biology is BUILT around the notion that evolution is true. You can't just go around saying there's no evidence just because you WANT to believe there isn't any.
     
    I side with religion.

    As for this theory, the big bang, yada yada, no matter how much proof there is, no one can ever conclusively prove one way or another. The only way we can ever know the truth is if we are there ourselves.

    Until then, no matter how much proof they had, no matter how much evidence they have, it can only tell us but so much. When we die, we may go to heaven, or hell, or maybe we will just cease to exist. No one can ever, EVER tell us what really happens, unless they can resurrect the dead.


    Funny, I just noticed the advertisement in the green box....all Christ-related...
     
    icaica said:
    Do not say Big Bang or Evolution. Those are scientific THEORIES with almost no evidence to back them up. If anyone has an in-depth explanation, not a theory or guess, please do speak up. Anyway, that's just my opinion. :)
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    With 'NO EVIDENCE'? theres massess of evidence, if you don't believe so and would rather ignore all evidence (such as a carbon dating, fossils, recurring features in organisms) for something in a book - which does have no evidence whatsoever to support, then frankly I'd be worried.
    Evolution isn't just a theory, it's also factual, not only is there ridiculous amounts to show it happened in the past, it happens today with small organisms such as fruit flys and bacterial strains.

    Then again Gravity is also a theory. That must be PURE BLASPHEMY!


    No I don't believe in a God - I accept there is a possibility of a higher being, but there is no chance it is one that exists in religions such as Christianity, Hinduism or Islam. Rejecting facts and theories based on empirical evidence, because a 1500 year old book says otherwise (and your parents brainwashed you into it) is silly.

    If Yahweh existed, wouldn't he show himself to the skeptics of the modern world? Surely the Old Testament shows him appearing in Genesis and even speaking to nations? Why does he not even give mankind a glimpse of himself?
    There is no way humans can prove God, just as there is no way to disprove him. However scripture that support the ideal of God can be easily debunked - scientific impossibilities, lack of historical evidence, contradictions, mythological creatures and so on.

    This is a fun thread..although it's likely to get locked soon D:
     
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    Well, if you ask me if I believe in God, I will answer you that I don't.
    Which is the truth.
    People say: 'You can't prove Jezus didn't do all the stuff he did', but I say that you can't prove he DID it either. I mean, if I tell you there is a flying donkey wearing a red wig, would you believe it, just because you can't prove it doesn't exist?

    I do believe there could be a higher being, though, but not in him/her sending some kind of prophet that's supernatural, with godly healing powers and such.
    If there is a higher being, he/she is like us, like humans, and humans are normal and get mad or sad sometimes. If you read the bible, you'll never see Jezus getting mad or sad.
    The whole Jezus story is just a fairytale. That's what I think about it.

    If there was a God like they tell us there is, and if it's a graceful one and helper of humans, then why is their war? Why is their sadness, murder and pain all around?
     
    Devil Silver makes a good point. Jesus was supposed to have human qualities and emotions, yet in the bible it says that humans sin, and also in Islamic faith, that the cause of humans sinning is forgetfulness. Yet Jesus didn't sin at all, nor did his mother Mary, because she was born free of sin. I believe in a higher being, but not Jesus. I go to a Catholic school and still, don't believe in Jesus.
     
    This thread is soon to go downhill fast. Very fast.

    Devil, I'd ask that you respect others beliefs.

    God not existing is not the truth. It is what you believe. If their is a flying Donkey, before you speak, get up, & get every scrap of evidence to show me that it doesn't. The bible is just a book. It won't tell of his whole life. Hence why they don't say whether he is sad, mad, OR happy.

    And as I said, unless you can go through time & show me what happend, you can NEVER have enough proof to just up & say "Evolution is 100% right!".

    I'm not saying I don't believe in evolution. But I have an open mind. I like what the teachings of the bible shows, so I will gladly go along with that. I don't see why people get so upset when they don't believe in evolution. I mean outside the forum. If anyone thinks I'm being silly, then come here & say that.
     
    icaica said:
    I absolutely believe in God. How else could you tell me the earth and everything on it got here. Do not say Big Bang or Evolution. Those are scientific THEORIES with almost no evidence to back them up. If anyone has an in-depth explanation, not a theory or guess, please do speak up. Anyway, that's just my opinion. :)
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    And Christianinty has what...a book telling you how to live your life? They all must have some evidence behind them, or they wouldn't be a theory.

    I'm not really sure what I believe in; There are so many religions out claiming to be the right one that I'm not sure which to believe in, and I'm not about to devout my entire life towards something that..might not even exsist. I'm just gonna be myself, and not worry about what happens after this life until it comes. If there was a God, where the hell is he? So much crap has been happening, so many people dying "in his name," so if he was there, why the hell wouldn't he do anything to stop it?

    I'm not sure what I believe in, all I really know is..I don't care ._.

    Edit: On a side note..LOLO!!! TYLER GOES TO CATHOLIC SCHOOL!
     
    Relyt said:
    Yet Jesus didn't sin at all, nor did his mother Mary, because she was born free of sin.
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    But if Jesus was 'free' of sin, why did he need baptizing? Another biblical puzzle for you. :P

    It's hard to decide whether Mary sinned, since she is hardly in the NTestament. The concept of her being free from sin, is very much a Roman Catholic idea, and rarely believed in other branches.

    Historically, there is a lot of evidence to show that a man named Jesus, existed around 50AD - he is commonly known as Historical Jesus, but reliable evidence to show that he performed miracles and was the son of God? none. Quite surprising, if he performed so many miraclulous feats, he would have been the talk of desert.
    It is agreed by historians, the Gospels are not primary sources and are transcriptions of stories passed on by mouth. Hardly reliable information in my opinion.

    I like what the teachings of the bible shows, so I will gladly go along with that.
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    A delicate woman doing evil to her children and eating them - Deut. 28:56-57
    A fair woman without discretion resembling a jewel of gold in a swine's snout - Proverbs 11:22
    A human body wallowing in blood on the highway - II Sam. 20:12
    Abandoning orphans - Psalms 109:7-20
    An angel killing 185,000 warriors in one night - II Kings 19:35
    Angels consorting with women of earth - Gen. 6:4
    Asking your neighbors to help you stone a stubborn son to death - Deut. 21:18-21
    And many many more.

    Deuteronomy 13:6 is a favourite of mine, since if it told my family I didn't believe in God, they by the Bible have to give me a good stoning. Really makes you rethink calling it 'the good book'
     
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    And now I am upset.

    So now you are saying that I am wrong for believing in what I believe in? That's going too far. I have no problem with evolution, as it's apparent that everyone must side with that, unless they are stupid. This is the exact reason that many people don't believe in evolution. I, unlike many here, have an open mind. What I learned at church promotes peace, which is why I go. What evolution shows makes sense, which is why I have an open mind.

    But apparently, we MUST side with evolution, unless face ridicule. That is absolutely amazing. And that is why I don't go 100% with evolution. The people there feel that they are absolutely right, and you are stupid if you think otherwise.
     
    sims796 said:
    So now you are saying that I am wrong for believing in what I believe in? That's going too far.
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    Not at all. I am trying to stress that beliefs can be morally wrong as well as right, especially those caused by relgion. It is up to individuals to decide which part they should really accept.

    Everyone picks which part of religion to associate with. Using Christianity as an example, people like Glenn Reb, like to choose sections of the Bible to bash atheists and other religions. Oppositely people like the Pope, would rather chose sections that would show religion in a more positive light, which can happily coexist with non believers

    Or a more extreme example where actions as a result of belief in religious doctrine which is agreed as being wrong, would be 9/11, suicide bombings, the crusades, spanish inquisition, the 'army of god' and so on...
     
    sims796 said:
    And now I am upset.

    So now you are saying that I am wrong for believing in what I believe in? That's going too far. I have no problem with evolution, as it's apparent that everyone must side with that, unless they are stupid. This is the exact reason that many people don't believe in evolution. I, unlike many here, have an open mind. What I learned at church promotes peace, which is why I go. What evolution shows makes sense, which is why I have an open mind.

    But apparently, we MUST side with evolution, unless face ridicule. That is absolutely amazing. And that is why I don't go 100% with evolution. The people there feel that they are absolutely right, and you are stupid if you think otherwise.
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    You somehow managed to respond with two entire paragraphs that don't manage to do anything in the way of arguing your point or addressing what he said. We all understand it hurts your feelings that other people find your beliefs silly based on well constructed arguments and appeals to common sense forms of reasoning.
     
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